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4-2-7 06-30-2014 09:43 AM

Unions Get The Hell Out Of My Business
 
Unions get the hell out of my business....

Court Says Unions Can't Force Health Workers to Pay Dues

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...y-dues-n141536

djv8ga 06-30-2014 10:10 AM

As far as I know, this was only going on in public sector unions.

CarlV 06-30-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 228041)
As far as I know, this was only going on in public sector unions.

This ruling has absolutely no effect on public sector unions.


Carl

djv8ga 06-30-2014 10:18 AM

I'm confused? - http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/06...or-union-dues/

4-2-7 06-30-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 228049)

Health Workers

donquixote99 06-30-2014 10:37 AM

The thread title totally exemplifies the ownership class's total hatred of unions. "Ownership" seems to mess with people's minds, and not in a good way.

merrylander 06-30-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 228022)
Unions get the hell out of my business....

Court Says Unions Can't Force Health Workers to Pay Dues

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...y-dues-n141536

And when did you hire any health workers?

You know Danny Boy if you become any stupider and clueless they may nominate you for the Supreme Court.:rolleyes:

donquixote99 06-30-2014 01:04 PM

He's getting shillier and shillier....

Ike Bana 06-30-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 228022)
Unions get the hell out of my business...

You don't have a business. Why are you such a liar?

Rajoo 06-30-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 228320)
You don't have a business. Why are you such a liar?

Thinks he is smart too when he is just an ass.

icenine 06-30-2014 10:11 PM

God forbid home health care workers get a decent wage.:rolleyes:

4-2-7 06-30-2014 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 228323)
God forbid home health care workers get a decent wage.:rolleyes:

I guess you don't know about this suit that was heard today.
The Government and Unions were trying to make a Mom join the union because she was staying home to take care of her child. She applied for assistance and they gave it to her right up the ass.

BlueStreak 06-30-2014 11:02 PM

Public home healthcare workers in the state of Illinois.

Unless you're the state government of Illinois, Dan, this has nothing to do with you.

I do find it interesting that you support workers being powerless against the government officials they work for, however. I thought you were a "screw the government, power to the people" kind of guy? The more you talk, the more you look like the "screw the people, power to the elite" kind of guy. You're just too pigheaded to see it. I'll bet you're a big fan of Lord Scott Walker keeping the serfs in line up in Wisconsin?

Dave

BlueStreak 06-30-2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 228324)
I guess you don't know about this suit that was heard today.
The Government and Unions were trying to make a Mom join the union because she was staying home to take care of her child. She applied for assistance and they gave it to her right up the ass.

You really believe that this was about one woman?

Dave

4-2-7 06-30-2014 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 228326)
You really believe that this was about one woman?

Dave

Supreme Court Rules Chicago Unions Can’t Collect Union Dues from Parents Taking Care of their Disabled Kids

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgr...disabled-kids/

4-2-7 06-30-2014 11:21 PM

Illinois mom elated after defeating powerful union in Supreme Court
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3174332/posts

Harris v. Quinn Decision Opens the Door For Constitutional Challenge of State Employee Unions
http://www.illinoismirror.com/harris...ployee-unions/

4-2-7 06-30-2014 11:22 PM

Unions get out of my house.....

BlueStreak 06-30-2014 11:31 PM

Harris vs. Quinn. Right.

As I suspected, this actually has little to do with moms taking care of sick kids at home, that silliness is just an emotional leader, an excuse. The SCOTUS conservatives don't really give two shits about that and neither do you. It's the open door to launching attacks against unions in general. That's the greater point.

So, tell me Dan; What is it that you so love about workers being stripped of their voice and ability to stand up to employers?

Are you just a dick?

Dave

bobabode 06-30-2014 11:45 PM

He sure has a case of the ass against unions which is strange for a dude in the construction trades. I wonder which union it was that he couldn't make the cut to get in?

4-2-7 06-30-2014 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 228332)
Harris vs. Quinn. Right.

As I suspected, this actually has little to do with moms taking care of sick kids at home, that silliness is just an emotional leader, an excuse. The SCOTUS conservatives don't really give two shits about that and neither do you. It's the open door to launching attacks against unions in general. That's the greater point.

So, tell me Dan; What is it that you so love about workers being stripped of their voice and ability to stand up to employers?

Are you just a dick?

Dave

Let me be very clear.... FUCK PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS.

They are driving this country into the shitter. OK Dave?

4-2-7 06-30-2014 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 228337)
He sure has a case of the ass against unions which is strange for a dude in the construction trades. I wonder which union it was that he couldn't make the cut to get in?

Well realy my first job at 17 was Building Matanence Union. Ya I know you can't work for the Union untill 18. I did and made good money at my age covering other workers taking vacation.

Anyway I moved on and learned to finish woodwork. I don't have a problem with private sector unions.

bobabode 07-01-2014 12:01 AM

You're more fulla shit than usual tonight -5 if you believe that nonsense. It's a political hatchet job of retribution against government employees because they support Democrats through their union PACs. Do you really swallow these Karl Rove talking points for idiots whole hog without thinking about who benefits politically?

BlueStreak 07-01-2014 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 228340)
Let me be very clear.... FUCK PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS.

They are driving this country into the shitter. OK Dave?

No. It's not okay. I have no idea what in the hell you are talking about. Must mean union government jobs are the best ones to have if rightwing dicks hate them.

Dave

BlueStreak 07-01-2014 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 228341)
I don't have a problem with private sector unions.

Something tells me this is a lie.

Dave

donquixote99 07-01-2014 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 228340)
Let me be very clear.... FUCK PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS.

They are driving this country into the shitter. OK Dave?


Who told you to say that?

merrylander 07-01-2014 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 228345)
Something tells me this is a lie.

Dave

Not surprising considering the source.

Oerets 07-01-2014 08:49 AM

Freeloader, they are paid by Medicaid to care for in home bound patients. Only were paying a fee to the union for collective bargaining. Now who will help them when and assuredly the day will come when they need it? A patient complains about being abused or for stealing.

Seen it all to often people complaining about the union dues and not getting any benefits. All they while they are the ones who use the services offered by the union when in trouble. Same one's who complain about seniority until they have some juice!


Freeloaders plain and simple, let others pay your way. Typical right mentality, oops don't want to give them any credit for an independent thought.




Barney

4-2-7 07-01-2014 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 228369)
Who told you to say that?

Dipshit you don't have to be told when you can see it. This board is ad nauseum try a post by Tom Joad about the loss of the middle class i think.

merrylander 07-01-2014 09:03 AM

I thought there was some sort of agreement that foul and abusive language is verboten here, after all there are ladies present.

4-2-7 07-01-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 228388)
I thought there was some sort of agreement that foul and abusive language is verboten here, after all there are ladies present.

Where:confused:

icenine 07-01-2014 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 228381)
Freeloader, they are paid by Medicaid to care for in home bound patients. Only were paying a fee to the union for collective bargaining. Now who will help them when and assuredly the day will come when they need it? A patient complains about being abused or for stealing.

Seen it all to often people complaining about the union dues and not getting any benefits. All they while they are the ones who use the services offered by the union when in trouble. Same one's who complain about seniority until they have some juice!


Freeloaders plain and simple, let others pay your way. Typical right mentality, oops don't want to give them any credit for an independent thought.



Barney

Yes.....
the home care network is staffed by hard working and underpaid health care providers who are taking care of our family members. I guess if one is taking care of a child or parent one may be upset with union dues...however nothing is permament....someday a stranger may be taking care of a loved one and I would hope they are getting a living wage so they provide as good care as possible.

merrylander 07-01-2014 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 228393)
Yes.....
the home care network is staffed by hard working and underpaid health care providers who are taking care of our family members. I guess if one is taking care of a child or parent one may be upset with union dues...however nothing is permament....someday a stranger may be taking care of a loved one and I would hope they are getting a living wage so they provide as good care as possible.

A living wage? Wow what a concept.;)

finnbow 07-01-2014 09:30 AM

I think the court got this one right. I think it's a stretch to say that home health care workers are public employees just because a significant amount of their income comes from Medicare. There are a number of doctors specializing in geriatric care, but this does not make them public employees either.

Ike Bana 07-01-2014 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 228340)
Let me be very clear.... FUCK PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS.

They are driving this country into the shitter. OK Dave?

What we have learned here in this thread so far:

1. You want the government out of the business you don't own.
2. You want the unions (and you don't specify public or private) out of the house you don't own.
3. You will continue to provide balanced reporting:rolleyes: from sources like the Frontpage Rag.
4. You lie like a rug, you're a union buster. Your political heroes are union busters and want all these commie union thugs gone.
5. You don't know shit from shinola about what is actually driving one state after another closer to bankruptcy. Because it ain't public unions, public school teachers, or state employee pensions. Those are just convenient targes for harebrained right-wingnuts who get their "information" from Frontpage Rag, FOX, and the EIB.

Ike Bana 07-01-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 228401)
I think the court got this one right. I think it's a stretch to say that home health care workers are public employees just because a significant amount of their income comes from Medicare. There are a number of doctors specializing in geriatric care, but this does not make them public employees either.

Of course analyzing a court decision in order to develop opinions about it's reasonable and unreasonable points is not 5 below's agenda. Reason is never 5 below's agenda.


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