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VanishingPoi 06-22-2014 09:49 PM

What happened to the Fairness Doctrine?
 
I remember when Reagan killed it. We once had real news among all the BS. Not anymore.

It is entertainment.

Pio1980 06-22-2014 10:47 PM

It was replaced by Excrement in Fraudcasting.

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Rajoo 06-22-2014 11:01 PM

Back then if a newspaper misreported a story, they printed a retraction. One cannot retract anything from the Internet; once you hit send, information goes up like a mushroom cloud. So now a news story can be spun any which way and there will be no consequences, and they are all web based. BTW, this is just my opinion.

And for TV news, only follow Fox and you will be OK. :D

BlueStreak 06-22-2014 11:52 PM

The news became "infotainment". Then the people foisting this farce upon us noticed that the slower witted among us believe whatever they are told, watch more thus raising ratings and profits...........and vote according to the scaremongering misinformation they are being fed. The political parties noticed this as well.

Dave

merrylander 06-23-2014 06:17 AM

In this vein;

"A lie can be half way around the world before truth can get its pants on"

W. S. Churchill

JBS... 06-23-2014 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 226449)
The news became "infotainment". Then the people foisting this farce upon us noticed that the slower witted among us believe whatever they are told, watch more thus raising ratings and profits...........and vote according to the scaremongering misinformation they are being fed. The political parties noticed this as well.

Dave

Yup, and that explains the last two presidential elections :o

Ike Bana 06-23-2014 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBS... (Post 226464)
Yup, and that explains the last two presidential elections :o

My ass. The GOP has lost 5 of the last 6 popular presidential votes. And the 2004 vote the GOP won (and I suppose I have to give Dick Cheney credit) was all about a well played fear card.

The fairness doctrine has nothing to do with it. What has everything to do with it is changing demographics and the GOP's inability to realize that new blood in the electorate is rejecting their theocratic and phony moralistic bullshit. And it will be 6 out of 7 in 2012 unless they extract their heads from out their asses.

Dondilion 06-23-2014 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 226470)
My ass. The GOP has lost 5 of the last 6 popular presidential votes. And the 2004 vote the GOP won (and I suppose I have to give Dick Cheney credit) was all about a well played fear card.

The fairness doctrine has nothing to do with it. What has everything to do with it is changing demographics and the GOP's inability to realize that new blood in the electorate is rejecting their theocratic and phony moralistic bullshit. And it will be 6 out of 7 in 2012 unless they extract their heads from out their asses.

It has for the main part nothing to do with winning or losing elections.

The right wing news propaganda machine in itself is big business. Note the amount
of people who became millionaires from it.

VanishingPoi 06-23-2014 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 226476)
It has for the main part nothing to do with winning or losing elections.

The right wing news propaganda machine in itself is big business. Note the amount
of people who became millionaires from it.

That is exactly why they hated and still hate the idea of a fairness doctrine.

donquixote99 06-23-2014 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 226470)
My ass. The GOP has lost 5 of the last 6 popular presidential votes. And the 2004 vote the GOP won (and I suppose I have to give Dick Cheney credit) was all about a well played fear card.

The fairness doctrine has nothing to do with it. What has everything to do with it is changing demographics and the GOP's inability to realize that new blood in the electorate is rejecting their theocratic and phony moralistic bullshit. And it will be 6 out of 7 in 2012 unless they extract their heads from out their asses.

Which is why the Koch teapublican aim may be to wreck constitutional government altogether. A dysfunctional pass-nothing congress, and an activist militia movement both point in this direction.

Anyone remember the abortive 'tea party militia' movement of a couple of years ago, in either Kansas or OK? TPers in state government wanted to sanction semi-official paramilitaries, with the mission to 'resist federal infraingements.' Sanity prevailed and the thing was quashed, that time....

icenine 06-23-2014 09:19 AM

The fact that Glenn Beck even has a radio audience and has books published is indicative of how Americans will listen to nonsense.

mpholland 06-23-2014 09:32 AM

Who needs a fairness doctrine? We have "fair and balanced" broadcasting. ;)

Actually, there have been attempts to revive it, but the efforts have never gone anywhere. Bush #1 threatened veto to stop discussion back in the early 90's. A couple other more recent attempts have been made, but since it is conservatively viewed as a first amendment limitation, don't plan on seeing it in any form while there is a GOP controlled house (unless, of course, it is temporarily instated by presidential order).

Pio1980 06-23-2014 09:38 AM

Anti abortion militants are advocating for giving promulgating lies some sort of legally protected status under the 1st Amendment, a fairly good indicator of the Conservative Right regard for "truthiness" and factual information.
Also on that end, opinion is treated as equivalent to factual truth and proudly loudly touted thus. I remember William B. Fuckley being a practitioner, so it started with the founding of the modern Conservative (bowel?) movement. That there's a direct connection to Excrement in Fraudcasting.
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donquixote99 06-23-2014 09:47 AM

Ijiots. They have a perfectly good clause for that in the 5th Amendment. "No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." (emphasis added)

All they have to do is get fertilized eggs recognized as persons.

Pio1980 06-23-2014 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 226504)
Ijiots. They have a perfectly good clause for that in the 5th Amendment. "No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." (emphasis added)

All they have to do is get fertilized eggs recognized as persons.

Then sperm cells, Onan as mass murderer.

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one1 06-23-2014 03:07 PM

Hello VP, the news will never be real again the world has become a big toilet bowl,and we cannot see it from being so tiny in the schism of it all,the news is all psychological brainwashing anymore....pick a side and tune in they will feed you what you want.

bobabode 06-23-2014 03:11 PM

Here's a good tool to help winnow the chaff from the wheat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

one1 06-23-2014 03:18 PM

leftover bolonie gets to be darn good after you have consumed it a few times.

one1 06-23-2014 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 226607)
Here's a good tool to help winnow the chaff from the wheat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

@Bob, exactly what happens when you winnow the chaff from the wheat?

bobabode 06-23-2014 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by one1 (Post 226612)
@Bob, exactly what happens when you winnow the chaff from the wheat?

Wiseacre answer ;). The wheat does not stick to the wall like so much of the shit that conservative media throws up into the air these days. The chaff blows away into the day old baloney fed flatulent wind.

piece-itpete 06-23-2014 03:31 PM

Like Al Gore's speeches :p

Am I the only one who finds the government deciding what is 'fair' speech chilling?

Pete

one1 06-23-2014 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 226613)
Wiseacre answer ;). The wheat does not stick to the wall like so much of the shit that conservative media throws up into the air these days. The chaff blows away into the day old baloney fed flatulent wind.

hmmm ,very cool.

bobabode 06-23-2014 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 226616)
Like Al Gore's speeches :p

Am I the only one who finds the government deciding what is 'fair' speech chilling?

Pete

Todays history lesson from those lefty liars at Wikipedia. :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine

BlueStreak 06-23-2014 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 226616)
Like Al Gore's speeches :p

Am I the only one who finds the government deciding what is 'fair' speech chilling?

Pete

As chilling as allowing employers the freedom to decide what fair compensation is, with input from those in their employ.

Dave

BlueStreak 06-23-2014 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 226504)
Ijiots. They have a perfectly good clause for that in the 5th Amendment. "No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." (emphasis added)

All they have to do is get fertilized eggs recognized as persons.

I thought that was whole point of the threshold argument? At what point is it considered "human life"? I've met some idiots who would probably send a teenage boy to jail for masturbating, a woman for failing to rescue eggs purged during her period.

Dave

djv8ga 06-23-2014 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 226616)
Like Al Gore's speeches :p

Am I the only one who finds the government deciding what is 'fair' speech chilling?

Pete

No, only the Obamabots that live on this forum 24/7 don't.
:rolleyes:

bobabode 06-23-2014 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 226648)
No, only the Obamabots that live on this forum 24/7 don't.
:rolleyes:

I thot we was Hillarybots? :D

djv8ga 06-23-2014 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 226649)
I thot we was Hillarybots? :D

I've been trying to figure the best way to incorporate your name with "Bots", but the possibilities are so many, I can't decide on one. :D

bobabode 06-23-2014 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 226650)
I've been trying to figure the best way to incorporate your name with "Bots", but the possibilities are so many, I can't decide on one. :D

Still carrying a torch for me, eh Deej? :rolleyes:

djv8ga 06-23-2014 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 226653)
Still carrying a torch for me, eh Deej? :rolleyes:

Yes, you bastard. I just got back from your hood & we didn't hook-up for a beer. :(

bobabode 06-23-2014 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 226654)
Yes, you bastard. I just got back from your hood & we didn't hook-up for a beer. :(

Maybe the next time, bro. Maybe. :rolleyes: Did you get your auger?

It's a given that I won't be visiting Arizona in this lifetime. :D

djv8ga 06-23-2014 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 226655)
It's a given that I won't be visiting Arizona in this lifetime. :D

You would like the Mogollon Rim & high country.
It's really beautiful. :)

Yes, I was picking up some bits & other stuff.

piece-itpete 06-24-2014 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 226627)
Todays history lesson from those lefty liars at Wikipedia. :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine

Ah. They mention that it was based on limited broadcasts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 226649)
I thot we was Hillarybots? :D

Soon perhaps :p

Pete

merrylander 06-24-2014 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 226642)
I thought that was whole point of the threshold argument? At what point is it considered "human life"? I've met some idiots who would probably send a teenage boy to jail for masturbating, a woman for failing to rescue eggs purged during her period.

Dave

Normally the foetus cannot survive outside the uterus until the seventh month without massive intervention.


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