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bobabode 06-21-2014 06:16 PM

"Longtime congressman Rangel finds himself in political peril in New York primary"
 
It will be the end of an era if Rangel loses to his challenger Espaillat. :(

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...y.html?hpid=z1

BlueStreak 06-21-2014 07:35 PM

Rangel is as old as rocks anyhow, Bob. It's way past time for him to sail off into the sunset.

Dave

bobabode 06-21-2014 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 226247)
Rangel is as old as rocks anyhow, Bob. It's way past time for him to sail off into the sunset.

Dave

I'll take experience over ambition any day Dave. Rangel is just hitting his stride at 84.

Dondilion 06-21-2014 07:41 PM

Rangel is a scoundrel and a thief.

bobabode 06-21-2014 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 226249)
Rangel is a scoundrel and a thief.

How so?

Dondilion 06-21-2014 10:14 PM

Shenanigans between Rangel and his very close friend Percy Sutton re the Appollo theater. Luckily we had Mr Eliot Spitzer who stood his ground and force Rangel to give give up his chairmanship of the board of the theater.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/14/ny...-chairman.html

finnbow 06-21-2014 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 226249)
Rangel is a scoundrel and a thief.

Little question about it.

bobabode 06-21-2014 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 226270)
Little question about it.

I'm shocked I tell you. Just shocked. New York politicians being well, politicians and underpaying their taxes and such. :rolleyes:

bobabode 06-21-2014 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 226269)
Shenanigans between Rangel and his very close friend Percy Sutton re the Appollo theater. Luckily we had Mr Eliot Spitzer who stood his ground and force Rangel to give give up his chairmanship of the board of the theater.

www.nytimes.com/1999/09/14/nyregion/rangel-to-step-down-as-appollo-chairman.html

Linky no work but where have I heard that name Spitzer before? :rolleyes: :D

Oerets 06-21-2014 10:26 PM

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Da...st_Baron_Acton

Seems to fit here! There everywhere when one get elected. Save Bernie Sanders!


Barney

BlueStreak 06-21-2014 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 226269)
Shenanigans between Rangel and his very close friend Percy Sutton re the Appollo theater. Luckily we had Mr Eliot Spitzer who stood his ground and force Rangel to give give up his chairmanship of the board of the theater.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/14/ny...-chairman.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 226270)
Little question about it.

Wasn't there some crap a while back about tax evasion, or something?

Dave

bobabode 06-21-2014 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 226275)
Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Da...st_Baron_Acton

Seems to fit here! There everywhere when one get elected. Save Bernie Sanders!


Barney

Nah, if anything he's a petty crook amongst a whole lot (500+) bigger crooks in the House of Representatives.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Rangel

bobabode 06-21-2014 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 226276)
Wasn't there some crap a while back about tax evasion, or something?

Dave

Yup, it's in the wiki above. Petty shit comparatively. He's also got a Bronze Star with Valor and a Purple Heart from the retreat at the Yalu River in Korea.

Tom Joad 06-21-2014 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 226249)
Rangel is a scoundrel and a thief.

Charlie Rangel is a decorated veteran of the Korean war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_B._Rangel

Quote:

Rangel was born in Harlem in New York City. He earned a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star for his service in the U.S. Army during the Korean War, where he led a group of soldiers out of a deadly Chinese Army encirclement during the Battle of Kunu-ri in 1950.
If he had been white he probably would have gotten a much higher decoration than the bronze star.

Fuck you for disrespecting this true American hero.

bobabode 06-21-2014 10:54 PM

"In March 2010, Rangel stepped aside as Ways and Means Chair. In November 2010, the Ethics Committee found Rangel guilty of 11 counts of violating House ethics rules, and on December 2, 2010, the full House approved a sanction of censure against Rangel."
Wikipedia link in previous post.

Hmmm, 2010...Now, when did the teabaggers take over the House again? :rolleyes:

bobabode 06-21-2014 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 226283)
Charlie Rangel is a decorated veteran of the Korean war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_B._Rangel



If he had been white he probably would have gotten a much higher decoration than the bronze star.

Fuck you for disrespecting this true American hero.

Truth here. Under fire and wounded he led 40 men out of danger as a Pfc. A hero indeed.

BlueStreak 06-21-2014 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 226278)
Yup, it's in the wiki above. Petty shit comparatively. He's also got a Bronze Star with Valor and a Purple Heart from the retreat at the Yalu River in Korea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 226283)
Charlie Rangel is a decorated veteran of the Korean war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_B._Rangel



If he had been white he probably would have gotten a much higher decoration than the bronze star.

Fuck you for disrespecting this true American hero.

True. Can't take that away from him and wouldn't if I could. But, as much as we need folks to counter the tide of whackjobs and jackals invading the halls of government, I'd have to say he's been at it too long already.

Dave

bobabode 06-21-2014 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 226289)
True. Can't take that away from him and wouldn't if I could. But, as much as we need folks to counter the tide of whackjobs and jackals invading the halls of government, I'd have to say he's been at it too long already.

Dave

I beg to differ. Charlie Rangel has been a massive thorn in the side of the wingnuts for decades and a good soldier for the cause. I'd be happy to see him stay for another twenty years or as long as he wants. His mind is still sharp. Shit, he's only got one year on Merrylander. ;)

BlueStreak 06-21-2014 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 226292)
I beg to differ. Charlie Rangel has been a massive thorn in the side of the wingnuts for decades and a good soldier for the cause. I'd be happy to see him stay for another twenty years or as long as he wants. His mind is still sharp. Shit, he's only got one year on Merrylander. ;)

Fair enough.

Dave

Dondilion 06-22-2014 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 226285)
"In March 2010, Rangel stepped aside as Ways and Means Chair. In November 2010, the Ethics Committee found Rangel guilty of 11 counts of violating House ethics rules, and on December 2, 2010, the full House approved a sanction of censure against Rangel."
Wikipedia link in previous post.

Hmmm, 2010...Now, when did the teabaggers take over the House again? :rolleyes:

Are you blaming the teabaggers for his censure?

bobabode 06-22-2014 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 226359)
Are you blaming the teabaggers for his censure?

Got any proof that he's a thief? :rolleyes:

Dondilion 06-22-2014 12:40 PM

The censure vote was 333 to 79 which implied that he was censured
heavily by democrats.

Dondilion 06-22-2014 12:49 PM

Charlie and his friend Percy Sutton for years carried out a 1, 2 punch against the famous Appollo Theater in Harlem.

When the then attorney general of Ny, Eliot Spitzer moved against them he Charlie tried to intimidate Spitzer, but Eliot would have none of it and ran him out of the Appolo.

bobabode 06-22-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 226365)
Charlie and his friend Percy Sutton for years carried out a 1, 2 punch against the famous Appollo Theater in Harlem.

When the then attorney general of Ny, Eliot Spitzer moved against them he Charlie tried to intimidate Spitzer, but Eliot would have none of it and ran him out of the Appolo.

So, this makes him a thief? Really?

Dondilion 06-22-2014 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 226370)
So, this makes him a thief? Really?

Any which way you want to read it.

He was obviously part of a system which enriched itself at the expense of the theater.

Dondilion 06-22-2014 02:10 PM

After having been forced from his chairmanship of a board by an Attorney General, no way should Rangel become chairman of the Ways and Means (what an ironic name? :D).

bobabode 06-22-2014 02:15 PM

I've wasted enough of my Sunday chasing down stories in the NY Times about the Apollo and Rangel. Sorry, it doesn't pass the sniff test. I'm still waiting for you to prove that he's a thief Don.
Nothing yet? :rolleyes:

finnbow 06-22-2014 02:55 PM

I'd never waste my breath defending a career politician.

bobabode 06-22-2014 03:00 PM

He's done anyway :(. A scoundrel? 'Tis possible maybe even probable I'll concede but a thief? That's a shabby and fucked up way to denigrate someone who has given so much to his country over his lifetime.

Dondilion 06-22-2014 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 226365)
Charlie and his friend Percy Sutton for years carried out a 1, 2 punch against the famous Appollo Theater in Harlem.

When the then attorney general of Ny, Eliot Spitzer moved against them he Charlie tried to intimidate Spitzer, but Eliot would have none of it and ran him out of the Appolo.

Let me sniff it for you :Charlie's friend Percy Sutton would use the Apollo to
make money and Charlie being chairman of the Appollo would run interference for him to make sure the Appollo was not paid its due.

The Attorney General smelled something was wrong up in Harlem and intervened with a law suit.

Here are some insights.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/14/ny...-chairman.html

Please note especially the third paragraph...The announcement was not
enough......until the Congress man has actually vacated the chairman's post. :D

Charlie was trying some foot work but Spitzer was insistent.

bobabode 06-22-2014 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 226400)
Let me sniff it for you :Charlie's friend Percy Sutton would use the Apollo to
make money and Charlie being chairman of the Appollo would run interference for him to make sure the Appollo was not paid its due.

The Attorney General smelled something was wrong up in Harlem and intervened with a law suit.

Here are some insights.

www.nytimes.com/1999/09/14/nyregion/rangel-to-step-down-as-apollo-chairman.html

Please note especially the third paragraph...The announcement was not
enough......until the Congress man has actually vacated the chairman's post. :D

Charlie was trying some foot work but Spitzer was insistent.

Like I said earlier, I've already read several articles in the NY Times today (including this one) Don. Still no proof that Rangel profited from the Apollo chairmanship.

Did Charlie rough you up and steal your lunch money back in the 60's? :rolleyes:

Keep on sniffin' my friend.:)

Ike Bana 06-22-2014 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 226371)
Any which way you want to read it.

This would be the equivalent of a pro-lifer calling a doctor in a women's clinic a murderer, even though we don't actually have a murder conviction. When Charlie is indicted maybe we'll revisit this thief thing.

bobabode 06-25-2014 02:15 AM

It appears I was wrong. It looks like Rangel wins.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...y.html?hpid=z2

Wasillaguy 06-25-2014 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 227010)
It appears I was wrong.

It nearly always appears that way from my vantage point.:D

bobabode 06-25-2014 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 227011)
It nearly always appears that way from my vantage point.:D

You always say the nicest things, are we having a bromance here? BTW,don't give up your day job Was.:D

Ike Bana 06-25-2014 07:54 AM

Fascinatin'! We got 4 pages of in depth discussion of what it all means when Charlie Rangel is gonna loose his Congressional seat. Then...in the light of a beautiful summer morning, it turns out that Charlie is headed right back to that seat...and the silence is deafening.

What's it all about, eh? Maybe the Hokey-Pokey is what it's all about.

finnbow 06-25-2014 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 227033)
What's it all about, eh? Maybe the Hokey-Pokey is what it's all about.

It always has been, at least since 1872.

http://collegevisits.org/wp-content/.../11/hokie1.gif

merrylander 06-25-2014 08:10 AM

And the teaparty lost in the south, oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

4-2-7 06-25-2014 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 227033)
Fascinatin'! We got 4 pages of in depth discussion of what it all means when Charlie Rangel is gonna loose his Congressional seat. Then...in the light of a beautiful summer morning, it turns out that Charlie is headed right back to that seat...and the silence is deafening.

What's it all about, eh? Maybe the Hokey-Pokey is what it's all about.

Rep. Charles Rangel has slim lead in primary

Last Updated Jun 25, 2014 5:45 AM EDT
NEW YORK - Rep. Charles Rangel, the face of Harlem politics for generations, declared victory in a fierce primary fight to return to the House of Representatives, but with ballots outstanding, the race was deemed too close to call.

With 99 percent of the vote counted in unofficial results early Wednesday, Rangel led state Sen. Adriano Espaillat, 47.4 percent to 43.7 percent. There was a difference of fewer than 2,000 votes out of about 47,000 votes cast.

The Associated Press was not declaring a winner because the city Board of Elections was unable to say how many absentee and affidavit ballots were outstanding. The counting of those paper ballots can take up to two weeks, beginning later Wednesday.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rep-char...close-to-call/

Rajoo 06-25-2014 09:02 AM

Get paid more for yelling you shill?


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