Why would anyone want to take your guns?
 

Another responsible gun owner. Just exercising his rights.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...tail=facebook#

They're law abiding citizens, exercising their rights. Responsible gun owners. Right up to the part where they shoot each other. Good thing they had protection!

http://aattp.org/two-proud-gun-nuts-...rage-incident/

Just a responsible gun owner protecting his family.

http://wonkette.com/548322/responsib...ff-laser-sight

Exercising his rights. Standing his ground.

http://wonkette.com/540420/responsib...eir-own-ground

More guns will make us safer!

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10...er-shoots-son/

We should all have guns to defend our homes!

http://hypervocal.com/news/2013/wrong-turn-death/

How about gun nut on gun nut crime?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...ef=mostpopular

Here's the thing. Gun rights are not being restricted. In fact, there are more and more laws allowing gun owners to carry their weapons all over the place. And they're encouraging people to buy more guns. And each and every one of them is an accident waiting to happen. You're 43 times more likely to shoot a family member than an intruder. The gun fetishists are getting out of control. Its time for reasonable limits.

It is not about guns. It is about mental health. Modern living is very stressful.

Read some of those stories before you toss out your trite talking points. The moron who laser sighted his nephew with a round in the chamber wasn't crazy. He was a responsible gun owner!

Guns don't kill people. Gun owners do.

http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi...chHistoryKey=&

Exactly!

There are no mentally ill in all those other countries with low gun violence.

😏

Maybe if modern life is so stressful, we shouldn't have so many guns lying around.

I want to go on record right now!

I'm sick of my rights to obtain, hold and carry firearms. I mean shit this is 2014 not 1787 :mad:

Earlier today, I threw all my entire firearm collection into Lake Superior ;)

Has overall gun violence increased or decreased since the liberalization of CCW?

Pete

Turns out, people with guns end up using them. And people die.

http://youngprogressivevoices.net/gu...uicide-murder/

That gun you use to "protect" your family is increasing their likelihood of being murdered.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A0J1G920140120

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-w...b_5479055.html

"Meanwhile, for all the talk about good guys with guns protecting us from bad guys with guns, the "decrease" in gun violence ended in 2002, while the number of states that now issue CCW has roughly doubled since 2002. The NRA's notion that we are a much safer country now that residents of every state can apply for CCW falls flat on its face, even when we look at the data that the NRA uses to prove its own case."

Individual stories cut both ways.

http://www.americanrifleman.org/blog_list.php?cat_id=46

I'd prefer to see the overall trends.

We'd probably agree on programs to calm people down :)

Pete

American Rifleman. Looks like an objective source.

Oh, I see. It's from the NRA. Sorry, I should have posted this:

"Meanwhile, for all the talk about good guys with guns protecting us from bad guys with guns, the "decrease" in gun violence ended in 2002, while the number of states that now issue CCW has roughly doubled since 2002. The NRA's notion that we are a much safer country now that residents of every state can apply for CCW falls flat on its face, even when we look at the data that the NRA uses to prove its own case."

Oh, wait. I did.

See, that is looking at over-all trends.

Chicago needs some gum control. - http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/04/...end-shootings/
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local...263202791.html

Hence my belief that the more "freedom" they have to get carried away with it the more likely it is that there will, eventually, be a crackdown.

We call this "SELF FULFILLING PROPHECY".

For you "pro-gun" rightwingers;

As you've been telling me for years..................

It's kind if like too much "freedom" for organized labor. The further they pushed their cause to extremes, the more damaging they became to their own cause.

There. Do you get it, now?

Dave

Either there truly aren't any mentally ill in those countries, or they keep them all locked up in the nuthouse. Which would also explain their lack of paranoid right wingers at the voting booths.:p

Dave

Not to mention- where do bad guys get guns? You guessed it! Responsible gun owners.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-ha...b_4155975.html

http://cqrcengage.com/gunowners/app/document/2601115

http://shootfromthelefthip.com/2013/...le-gun-owners/

Protecting America... by arming the gangs.

From your link, sounds like their "gum" control is working.

"Although murders in Chicago spiked to 516 in 2012 – only the second time homicides surpassed 500 since 2003 – they dropped to 415 last year, the lowest murder total for Chicago in nearly 50 years."

Let me tell you all about it...

Well hand guns are made for killin'
They ain't no good for nothin' else
And if you like to drink your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don't we dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some ole fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me

That blog posts its' sources.

So the Huff Post article says things have stayed the same? What difference does it make then?

Pete

It will make a difference when one of those guns is used on someone you care about.

73 Year Old Man is Shot in Face, but Still Manages to Capture Burglary Suspects at Gunpoint.

http://www.wbir.com/story/news/local...face/10590673/

You mean to tell me violent criminals, fools and raving lunatics don't typically manufacture their own guns?

Who knew?

Dave

Sixty Year Old Louisiana Man Captures Couple at Gunpoint Who Were on Cross Country Crime Spree...

http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/2...nclick_check=1

SC Resident Uses Gun to Stop Possible Killing Spree of Recently Released Convict

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/loca...g-apart/ngJLx/

The same state of affairs I outlined earlier- where guns end up killing the wrong people and arming the gangs. The downsides were already well stated and still in place. DJ's article shows us that even a gun control island is having an impact.

Who might have not been able to have such a bloody crime spree in the first place without such easy access to firearms.:rolleyes:

Dave

Store Clerk Draws Gun on Robber Armed With Pepper Spray, Bystander Assists in Capture


http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/257...erspray-robber

As Pete said:

"Individual stories cut both ways.

I'd prefer to see the overall trends."

You can post anecdotes all you like (as did I) but the facts are pretty clear. If you keep a gun in your house, it's not real likely to be used to "protect" anyone, and far more likely to shoot a member of your family. Or be stolen to arm a "bad guy".

The 2nd Amendment as interpreted by the NRA and sycophant members, groups and politicians past and present is and always has been......

......a stupid idea.

Dave

Concealed Carrier Shoots Cop Killer in Georgia

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local...led-waf/ngBLC/

You know, I could post 100 more links too. Read my last reply. Or, you know, put your head in the sand and waste the rest of your day on the google machine.

I read DJs articles and don't see it?

Pete

Not always...

2 Thugs Held Teenage Girl at Gunpoint, Mom and Dad Both Grabbed Guns and Took Them Out

http://fox2now.com/2014/06/10/one-pe...-the-hospital/

"Although murders in Chicago spiked to 516 in 2012 – only the second time homicides surpassed 500 since 2003 – they dropped to 415 last year, the lowest murder total for Chicago in nearly 50 years."