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donquixote99 06-16-2014 10:33 AM

Search for a Good President
 
Search for Next President:

Here's my list of criteria:
  1. Successful experience as director of unit with over 100 team members, with strategic planning, management, and fiscal responsibility.
  2. Experienced in building and managing effective teams.
  3. Has track record as 'agent of change.' Wants to improve things, and has been successful at doing so.
  4. Good person, adverse to harming others.
  5. Strong empathy, cares about people in general.
  6. Open-minded, does not automatically reject challenging ideas.
  7. Emotionally resilient; resistant to intimidation and other manipulations.
  8. High intelligence, excellent analytical skills, quick learner.
  9. Wide and deep knowledge about lots and lots of things.
  10. Not a hater; does not nurture anger, spite, or animosity as decisive motivations.
  11. Personal vices are minor and under good control. Does not accept come-on's from interns, for example.

I think there are thousands and thousands of people in this country who meet all these criteria. My guess is that the people on the forum know of a few of them.

So how can we get one nominated?

Pio1980 06-16-2014 10:36 AM

Ask Colin Powell.

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donquixote99 06-16-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 224918)
Ask Colin Powell.

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The man who could have had the Presidency for the asking in 1996, to the vast betterment of history.

Maybe a bit of trouble with point 7, affecting both his decision not to run, and the big flub as W's Secretary of State.....

Rajoo 06-16-2014 11:05 AM

I would add this:

12. Must be averse to deficits and balance the budget every year.

Hint: Tax subsidies, loopholes, dividend income and so on to increase revenues.

whell 06-16-2014 11:30 AM

The ability to think strategically

merrylander 06-16-2014 12:04 PM

If he/she possessed all those qualifications especially item 8 thhe last thing on earth they would want is to be POTUS

Rajoo 06-16-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 224936)
If he/she possessed all those qualifications especially item 8 thhe last thing on earth they would want is to be POTUS

For an Air Force One in your backyard and free lifetime healthcare? :D

Pio1980 06-16-2014 12:25 PM

Again, ask Colin Powell about that.

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Pio1980 06-16-2014 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 224923)
I would add this:

12. Must be averse to deficits and balance the budget every year.

Hint: Tax subsidies, loopholes, dividend income and so on to increase revenues.

That's pretty much impossible in the real world.


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merrylander 06-16-2014 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 224939)
For an Air Force One in your backyard and free lifetime healthcare? :D

And 535 Members of Congress right close by to drive you insane?

Rajoo 06-16-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 224942)
And 535 Members of Congress right close by to drive you insane?

Tou·ché. :)

MrPots 06-16-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 224917)
Search for Next President:

Here's my list of criteria:
  1. Successful experience as director of unit with over 100 team members, with strategic planning, management, and fiscal responsibility.
  2. Experienced in building and managing effective teams.
  3. Has track record as 'agent of change.' Wants to improve things, and has been successful at doing so.
  4. Good person, adverse to harming others.
  5. Strong empathy, cares about people in general.
  6. Open-minded, does not automatically reject challenging ideas.
  7. Emotionally resilient; resistant to intimidation and other manipulations.
  8. High intelligence, excellent analytical skills, quick learner.
  9. Wide and deep knowledge about lots and lots of things.
  10. Not a hater; does not nurture anger, spite, or animosity as decisive motivations.
  11. Personal vices are minor and under good control. Does not accept come-on's from interns, for example.

I think there are thousands and thousands of people in this country who meet all these criteria. My guess is that the people on the forum know of a few of them.

So how can we get one nominated?

Anyone with those kind of qualities is too smart to get involved in politics.

mpholland 06-16-2014 02:43 PM

NO!...I won't run for president. :D

In all seriousness, I know a couple people that could probably do it, but they wouldn't. I truly believe that is one of the more serious problems we find in candidates these days. Those who are uniquely qualified don't want any part of it, so we get those specifically groomed for campaigning instead.

MrPots 06-16-2014 02:45 PM

Seriously, what good and qualified person would do that to their families? With all the political assholes out there that would make your life hell just for partisan shits and grins.

merrylander 06-16-2014 03:04 PM

Having had some experience in this area I can tell you this much. Back home my Member of Parliament and I had extensive correspondence. He died suddenly and unexpectedly shortly after I moved down here. Well it seems the party (Conservative) found my letters in his files and called my ex-wife wondering if I would run for his seat. When my ex called and told me Florence said if I got into politics she would leave me. Frankly even in Canadian politics I would not blame her.

bobabode 06-16-2014 03:18 PM

For some reason Diogenes and his lamp keeps coming to mind.

donquixote99 06-16-2014 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 224923)
I would add this:

12. Must be averse to deficits and balance the budget every year.

Hint: Tax subsidies, loopholes, dividend income and so on to increase revenues.

That gets to policy specifics, which I was trying to avoid. My open-minded candidate may be for or against a deficit, depending.

donquixote99 06-16-2014 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpholland (Post 224952)
NO!...I won't run for president. :D

In all seriousness, I know a couple people that could probably do it, but they wouldn't. I truly believe that is one of the more serious problems we find in candidates these days. Those who are uniquely qualified don't want any part of it, so we get those specifically groomed for campaigning instead.

This is indeed a problem, I think.

ebacon 06-16-2014 04:24 PM

The Republicans fielded what seemed like a few good candidates during the last presidential election. I forget their names at the moment and that reflects part of the issue, namely the media controls how much exposure the masses get to candidates. Campaign buses and speeches only go so far. A winning candidate in this era has to look good on TV. He can be smart as a whip and reasonable as can be, but if he comes across as stiff or dorky on TV then it is game over. The road to the White House is probably littered with candidates of that caliber.

That's my opinion at least.

Rajoo 06-16-2014 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 224970)
That gets to policy specifics, which I was trying to avoid. My open-minded candidate may be for or against a deficit, depending.

OK then, I will amend it to: 12. Fiscally responsible to the tax payers.

Pio1980 06-16-2014 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 224977)
The Republicans fielded what seemed like a few good candidates during the last presidential election. I forget their names at the moment and that reflects part of the issue, namely the media controls how much exposure the masses get to candidates. Campaign buses and speeches only go so far. A winning candidate in this era has to look good on TV. He can be smart as a whip and reasonable as can be, but if he comes across as stiff or dorky on TV then it is game over. The road to the White House is probably littered with candidates of that caliber.

That's my opinion at least.

I remember a Teapublican kandidate klown kar loaded with wing nuts and Jesus weasels.

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bobabode 06-16-2014 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 224989)
I remember a Teapublican kandidate klown kar loaded with wing nuts and Jesus weasels.

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Plus eight or was that the '08 primary?

BlueStreak 06-16-2014 08:38 PM

Why have an election, when we could just wait for "God" to appoint the appropriately deluded Republican? Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck and Rove could just gather together in secrecy and let out a puff of smoke to let us know whom the Almighty has selected. Limbaugh could blow it out of his ass on the Whitehouse lawn amid patriotic fanfare and fawning rightwing media.

Yes, I have pretty much developed a hatred for these people. They are nothing but sanctimonious drivel pumping anal retentives.

Dave

donquixote99 06-16-2014 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 224977)
The Republicans fielded what seemed like a few good candidates during the last presidential election. I forget their names at the moment and that reflects part of the issue, namely the media controls how much exposure the masses get to candidates. Campaign buses and speeches only go so far. A winning candidate in this era has to look good on TV. He can be smart as a whip and reasonable as can be, but if he comes across as stiff or dorky on TV then it is game over. The road to the White House is probably littered with candidates of that caliber.

That's my opinion at least.

Lookiing good on TV is not on my list, and I agree that the importance of that factor can be harmful.

But my memory of the Republican field is sort of different. Only one seems to remotely meet your description--Jon Huntsman.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/41480719/n...dential-field/

Pio1980 06-16-2014 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 225025)
Lookiing good on TV is not on my list, and I agree that the importance of that factor can be harmful.

But my memory of the Republican field is sort of different. Only one seems to remotely meet your description--Jon Huntsman.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/41480719/n...dential-field/

He might have been the exception.

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ebacon 06-16-2014 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 225025)
Lookiing good on TV is not on my list, and I agree that the importance of that factor can be harmful.

But my memory of the Republican field is sort of different. Only one seems to remotely meet your description--Jon Huntsman.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/41480719/n...dential-field/

Huntsman. That's the guy. He is an example of contemplative people that get pushed aside.

BlueStreak 06-16-2014 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 225028)
Huntsman. That's the guy. He is an example of contemplative people that get pushed aside.

I liked Huntsman. He captured the essence of that election cycle when he said of Donald Trump;

"I refuse to kiss his ring or any other part of his anatomy."

The Republicans really were showing their "butt-licking flunkies sucking up to the arrogant rich guy" side that time around.

To which the Amerian voter repied; "Yaw fiyud!":p

Dave

MrPots 06-17-2014 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 224989)
I remember a Teapublican kandidate klown kar loaded with wing nuts and Jesus weasels.

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Indeed, that's all I seem to remember. There was Santorium, Bachman Perry.....and that elitist aristocrat asshole who ran.... what's his name?

BlueStreak 06-17-2014 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPots (Post 225045)
Indeed, that's all I seem to remember. There was Santorium, Bachman Perry.....and that elitist aristocrat asshole who ran.... what's his name?

Right. This is why I love it when Conservatives complain about Liberals being "arrogant" and "elitist". These are the people who ran Donald Trump in a presidential election....................:eek:

What more is there to say?

Dave

donquixote99 06-17-2014 11:44 AM

The old catchphrase updated: 'Money makes right!'


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