Melinda Gates: Gates Foundation Will Not 'Fund Abortion'
 

A dropkick to Planned Parenthood - http://www.newsmax.com/US/Gates-abor.../12/id/576711/

I recall some liberal friends of mine to come to a Superbowl party I was hosting if I served Dominos pizza. At the time, Catholic Tom Monaghan was CEO, and they couldn't countenance buying a pizza from "a pro-life zealot". :rolleyes:

I wonder if they're now preparing to purge their computers of Windows products and installing Linux.

That kind of money was super offensive to a lot of people. I'm sure they were under serious fire even though the media wasn't reporting it.

No worries, though. Warren Buffett will pick up the slack for abortion funding:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st-decade.html

I won't fund abortion either. Let them pay for their own damned abortion.

Would you rather pay for their kid? :rolleyes:

I think there is a misconception that liberals favor having abortions.

In reality, liberals support the right for people to have that option as a choice should that be what they want to do in their particular situation.

Nobody paid for my abortions or my kids....

I dunno Zeke, I'm a socially liberal kind of guy but can't we draw the line somewhere? Something like "Ok, I'll pay for your abortion but you get your tubes tied and the guy who did it gets a vasectomy"?

$1,200,000,000.00 is more than supportive IMO. :rolleyes:

I've seen much worse than abortion in the form of unloved uncherished and abused kids. Get your priorities straight before sentencing someone else's kids to hell after birth.

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My favorite is the pro-lifers who also are against gay couples giving adopted children a loving home. You must have the baby, and we have no idea who will take care of the kid, cause we are narrow minded.

She's entirely within her rights to give away her money as she chooses. More power to her. As for me, I'm personally anti-abortion, but pro-choice. Namely, the fact that I personally oppose abortion shouldn't give me the right to make this choice for others.

I support abortion up to the 100th trimester. After that, I figure they deserve to live, having made it thus far and hopefully finished college/ served at least one enlistment in the military. So we need them around to repay those college loans and pay taxes.

Make sense to you?

Dave

Yep. It's a piss poor form of birth control but I would never presume to tell anyone what to do with their own body. If men were able to carry a child to term, I'll bet that abortions would be universally available on demand and free.

My mother inlaw gave birth to 9 children. 8 of them were given birth to on her kitchen table with nothing for pain. My wife being the youngest was the only one born with doctors care, but even then she still refused anything for pain. My mother inlaw also hated the word abortion until her dying day.

My wife had a heart attack in the hospital after three days of induced labor trying to have our son without a C-section and did so but she too hates the word abortion and later gave birth to our daughter who has given us twin granddaughters and she too hates the word abortion and none of us go to church. Take care of what you create or else keep your legs crossed. Men And Women, not just women, not just men, but both. People darn well know what can happen after they hop in the sack and abortion is a sorry as hell way out. *IMO of course.

Honestly, I've never cared for abortion either and for most of the reasons stated above.

However, there are a few points that keep me from going full on pro-life.

1). I am not a woman and have no idea what kind of mental/psychological issues carrying an unwanted pregnancy to term can cause for them. Especially in cases involving rape.

2). A child brought into the world by a mother that wants nothing to do with him/her is very likely headed for a difficult life. Because he/she will either be raised by an uncaring, inattentive mother or end up in foster homes or a ward of the state. If they are lucky, they end up adopted to a good family at an early age and adjust well.

3). This one is cold, from the darker corners of my mind and difficult for me to say, but here goes. The worlds population has more than quadrupled in the last one hundred years.

How sustainable is this? ;

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

http://www.worldometers.info/world-p...on/#pastfuture

I'm just sayin'......

Dave

I do find it strange that the very people who complain about government intrusion in their live insist on telling women what they can or cannot do with their own bodies. We have come some distance in regard to childbirth, my Dad and most of his siblings births were attended by mid wives, except Aunt Ethyl who had a doctor present. Grandmother Sarah Anne died painfully of childbed fever. You see Dr. Semmelweiss had yet to determine the cause.

So as I have no idea what a woman goes through carrying a child to term I will leave the decision in their hands.

As to the Gates foundation from personal experience they seem more concerned with children in Africa than here. We donate monthly to Covenant House, the good people who try to get to the runaways before the predators get them. I wrote to the Gates Foundation seeking their help and received a blunt no, so screw Bill and Melinda.

+one!

Pretty much where I'm at!


No fear of me every getting knocked up so will never have to make the decision for myself. I was extremely lucky in meeting and marring a woundeful woman who wanted my children! Three times too! Son's taboot!

Barney

If it's so easy to go to a clinic and get an abortion why not go and get contraception. There are so many ultra reliable methods there should not be this amount of abortions anymore.

Although I've heard some pro-lifers scream about how devices like IUDs are as bad as abortion. There's just no pleasing some crazy people.

I find abortion distasteful. I find telling someone what they can/cannot do with their own body, worse.

Here's the rub for psycho crazy Christian radicals: if Christ had been aborted, miscarried or stillborn are our sins still forgiven?

A lot of people go to those same clinics for contraception. And, despite medical advances, contraception is still not 100%.

Every sperm is precious..................:rolleyes:

Dave

Sacred. Every sperm is sacred. Time for you to watch "The Meaning of Life" again! Time for me to watch it again too. One of my favorites.

And is sinful to spill. Damn am I going to hell.

Right you are.

Dave

That depends. Are you lefthanded or righthanded? ;)

Tell me about it Mom was not supposed to have any more children after my older brother - supprise! :)

So what happens when the woman is infertile, a whole lot got wasted.

What do you care? What do "a lot of people" whoever TF "a lot of people" are...care? Don't like abortion? Don't have one.

It's none of your business unless you're having one. It's between a woman and her physician. Mind your own busines. Butt out.

Not when we are being forced to pay for it! then it is Our God Damn Business:mad:

Oh please, you're not paying a dime out of your pocket. Spare the world your fake outrage. Who is this "we" and "our" you speak of? The Catholic Church? The Republican Party? Self-appointed concerned citizens?

But you are not paying for it. It must be offered as a separate policy to those who want that coverage. So dinna fash yersel laddie ye wilna be payin fer mine.

It's a legal medical procedure protected by legal medical confidentiality. Who provides it, who gets it, and who pays for it is...to use your thoughtful language...is absoluetly none of your goddamn business. In your holier than holy private insurance based health care system part of your premiums pay for legal, insurance covered abortions, every day. So why aren't you screaming at BCBS and United Health Care, eh? Eh...5 below? You subsidize abortions every day.

And...because rich women, including rich conservative women and rich Republican women have good insurance and have plenty of money to pay for their abortion if their health insurance won't...they can, and will, and do get their abortions whenever they like. And guess what 5 below...you don't know about it, I don't know about it...nobody knows about it because it's protected by medical confidentiality and nobody's business but theirs.

You think every conservative Republican woman in this country is some pro-life bleater...standing out in front of women's clinic's waving posters of pig viscera, wringing her hands and tearing her hair out? Really? Well then, you're nuts because wealthy Republican women who end up with an uplanned and unwanted pregnancy are getting their abortions just as often as wealthy liberal Democrat women with an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy.

And the fact that rich women can get any abortion they want any time and anywhere they want means that it's only poor women with lousy insurance, or no insurance, and no money who would be denied the option of an abortion in the wonderful world of 5 below. Because it's your money? Rich or poor, it's your money anyway. Be more ignorant 5 below...try harder...I know you can do it.

That's a weird rant full of evidence of brainwashing.

Another scorching retort from the interbred royal prince of insignificance.

Hmmm..so that's what's happening in this country. The wealthy and I would assume more educated of our society are having their abortions and using birth control and not having so many babies while the poor and seemingly less educated of our society cannot afford abortions and birth control so they keep spitting out baby after baby after baby.

It only makes sense then that smart people are being outbred by dumb people and thus we have the perpetual republican support system.

Am I overthinking this?

If this is to help me understand how our friends on the right see the whole thing...then you're thinking about it just right.

Right, abortion is a privilege and not a right, like basic health care.

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So if you go to a doctor, and he's the only doctor who can cure you. with a curable illness and he says, no, yer ugly, I'm not going to cure you, you're OK with that?

Interesting attitude.

I'd like to think we live in a kinder gentler society that that myself. But I've been delusional before.....