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Dondilion 06-03-2014 12:21 PM

Bible belt faces heroin
 
WTF happening to white America re heroin. In NY it is the white suburbs
which is under siege.

Now the bible belt!

http://america.aljazeera.com/article...erointrad.html

MikeG22 06-03-2014 12:31 PM

It seems the all too common pill popping leads to heroin use. It is out of control in this area. Huge heroin bust last year.

piece-itpete 06-03-2014 12:31 PM

In Cleveland, it's now the #1 killer of young men.

Pete

finnbow 06-03-2014 12:52 PM

It's reportedly quite common here. Supposedly, the recent opiate problem among rural and suburban whites started with Oxycontin. Now that it is far better controlled, those hooked on Oxycontin have move on to heroin.

merrylander 06-03-2014 01:08 PM

It seems that the latest problem is the 'manufactured' maijuana substitutes. On the news last night the police were called because this couple were passed out in the front seat and there was an 8 month old baby in the back seat. Apparently they had been smoking one of the made up ones.

Never could understand why people wanted to fry their brains on drugs. Hate drugs of most any kind as they all have side effects. Bugs me that I will be using eye drops now because of this damn glaucoma.

Dondilion 06-03-2014 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 222123)
It's reportedly quite common here. Supposedly, the recent opiate problem among rural and suburban whites started with Oxycontin. Now that it is far better controlled, those hooked on Oxycontin have move on to heroin.

Heroin has terrible associates HIV and hepatitis C.

Many years ago especially in Manhattan I use to see blacks and Hispanics,
especially Puerto Ricans nodding off in public.

I see that no more. From what I have been reading there is an heroin
epidemic in the NY white suburbs especially Long Island. No good!

MikeG22 06-03-2014 02:01 PM

You want to see some really horrendous stuff check out krokodile. From Russia with love.

MrPots 06-03-2014 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeG22 (Post 222114)
It seems the all too common pill popping leads to heroin use. It is out of control in this area. Huge heroin bust last year.

I've found that mothers milk is a gateway to heroin.....

The bible belt on heroin though.... ya either laugh or run like hell.....

Dondilion 06-03-2014 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeG22 (Post 222154)
You want to see some really horrendous stuff check out krokodile. From Russia with love.

Yeah, that is an horrendous one. :eek:

noonereal 06-03-2014 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 222123)
It's reportedly quite common here. Supposedly, the recent opiate problem among rural and suburban whites started with Oxycontin. .

I though it started with Rush Limbaugh.;)

BlueStreak 06-03-2014 07:55 PM

So what? The "Bible Belt" has always been on a glassy eyed, euphoric, detached from reality trip. They just did it without the drugs up 'til now.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Dave

merrylander 06-04-2014 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 222326)
So what? The "Bible Belt" has always been on a glassy eyed, euphoric, detached from reality trip. They just did it without the drugs up 'til now.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Dave

I think I will do just that Dave. I read through what had been posted since I logged out yesterday at 4:30 and have the feeling that I just wasted30 minutes of my time.

Dondilion 06-04-2014 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeG22 (Post 222154)
You want to see some really horrendous stuff check out krokodile. From Russia with love.

Not for the queasy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK7N8B9r2C8

MikeG22 06-04-2014 08:09 AM

I like how she warns about the graphic pictures after the photo of the hand is up. Good God that stuff is nasty.

BlueStreak 06-04-2014 08:30 AM

What gets me about any nasty drug like bath salts or krokodil, or black tar heroin.........

.....they keep on doing it after it has turned them into violent face ripping killers or even eaten flesh off of their bones. Can anything be more evil that that?

Dave

4-2-7 06-04-2014 08:38 AM

It's not the drugs one choses to use but the reason why they use them.

Why does one need to alter realty,
Why does one need to escape,
Why can't one sit with themselves and live life on lifes terms.

MrPots 06-04-2014 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 222489)
It's not the drugs one choses to use but the reason why they use them.

Why does one need to alter realty,
Why does one need to escape,
Why can't one sit with themselves and live life on lifes terms.

Have you looked around you lately?

Reality sucks a big one these days. This country is going to hell and it's not even using a hand basket, it's using a zip line.....

Countryford 06-04-2014 08:49 AM

Quote:

Reality sucks a big one these days. This country is going to hell and it's not even using a hand basket, it's using a zip line.....
It must suck being you. I understand this country isn't the best, but does that mean to be depressed about it and try to escape reality? If you don't like it, change it. For the most part I am happy with my life. I see no reason to escape.

MrPots 06-04-2014 08:51 AM

Nope, it doesn't suck to be me. I see nothing so wonderful about todays "reality" though. You work your ass off and there are too many asshole people everywhere.

MikeG22 06-04-2014 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 222484)
What gets me about any nasty drug like bath salts or krokodil, or black tar heroin.........

.....they keep on doing it after it has turned them into violent face ripping killers or even eaten flesh off of their bones. Can anything be more evil that that?

Dave

When you choose these drugs you've basically given up and have chosen slow suicide. It's pure evil.

Countryford 06-04-2014 08:55 AM

Quote:

I see nothing so wonderful about todays "reality" though.
I didn't say it was wonderful, but it isn't terrible either.
I deal with asshole people too, but at the end of the day, I go home to my husband and enjoy our life.

BlueStreak 06-04-2014 08:57 AM

I still love life and see no reason to totally give up.....

But, it does get harder every day. I no longer love my country as much as I once did, I can tell you that. I used to think we we're the sharpest people in the world. Then, I went out and saw the rest of the world. The rose colored glasses are gone.

Dave

piece-itpete 06-04-2014 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 222130)
It seems that the latest problem is the 'manufactured' maijuana substitutes. On the news last night the police were called because this couple were passed out in the front seat and there was an 8 month old baby in the back seat. Apparently they had been smoking one of the made up ones.

Never could understand why people wanted to fry their brains on drugs. Hate drugs of most any kind as they all have side effects. Bugs me that I will be using eye drops now because of this damn glaucoma.

I happen to know some of those drugs are based on Damiana extract, plant based (among other things). When I was a teen me and a friend chewed a bunch of the root of that plant. It's not like pot - it's a hallucinogen. That fake stuff is bad, bad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 222484)
What gets me about any nasty drug like bath salts or krokodil, or black tar heroin.........

.....they keep on doing it after it has turned them into violent face ripping killers or even eaten flesh off of their bones. Can anything be more evil that that?

Dave

Hey, don't knock face flesh till you've tried it.

:p

Pete

BlueStreak 06-04-2014 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 222572)
I happen to know some of those drugs are based on Damiana extract, plant based (among other things). When I was a teen me and a friend chewed a bunch of the root of that plant. It's not like pot - it's a hallucinogen. That fake stuff is bad, bad.



Hey, don't knock face flesh till you've tried it.

:p

Pete

No thanks, I'm good. I prefer my meat properly cooked and non-human.:rolleyes:

Seriously, how can a 25 year old, toothless crack addict who looks like she's 90, seriously think it's alright to go on they way she has been? Because the drug rots her brain and the crowd she runs with laughs it off. Evil, pure and simple.

I'm a guy who smoked reefer in my earlier days and even experimented with some of the more powerful stuff, powder cocaine and LSD in my youth, a lot of my generation did. But, as I recall, even then, I quickly came to see what the regular users of the "more powerful stuff" all too often became. A few of my closest friends from that time are dead. One is struggling with permanent brain damage.

No thanks, I'll pass.

Now, I scarcely even imbibe alcohol. A six pack lasts me months.

Dave

piece-itpete 06-04-2014 11:45 AM

It's easy to glamorize those days, but the fact was we were pretty messed up or we wouldn't have done it, my take.

Pete

merrylander 06-04-2014 11:51 AM

Guess I was a generation ahead as the worst thing we smoked was tobacco. Drank a little 'shine and Quebec hard cider, that was it.

BlueStreak 06-04-2014 11:52 AM

Ummmm........

I tend to think we were set up pretty good by the WW2 generation and could have had it made. But, instead, we chose the wrong path. The path of taking our Soma* regularly and trusting wolves in government, finance and industry to be nice to us.

Naïve. That's what we were, Pete.

Dave

(*Soma, the drug widely prescribed in Huxleys, "Brave New World".)

Pio1980 06-05-2014 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 222324)
I though it started with Rush Limbaugh.;)

That there's another mind rotting drug of choice popular hereabouts.

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Dondilion 06-05-2014 10:06 PM

I am glad to notice that in the inner city of NY crack has become a no no.

Call somebody a "Crackhead" and it might start a fight.

Once crack was the rage here. I guess having observed the damage through
the time of crack caused the inner city population, especially the blacks
to give it up.

Plus after a while no one wanted to sell crack....long, long sentences for crack dealers.

MrPots 06-06-2014 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 222578)
No thanks, I'm good. I prefer my meat properly cooked and non-human.:rolleyes:

Seriously, how can a 25 year old, toothless crack addict who looks like she's 90, seriously think it's alright to go on they way she has been? Because the drug rots her brain and the crowd she runs with laughs it off. Evil, pure and simple.

I'm a guy who smoked reefer in my earlier days and even experimented with some of the more powerful stuff, powder cocaine and LSD in my youth, a lot of my generation did. But, as I recall, even then, I quickly came to see what the regular users of the "more powerful stuff" all too often became. A few of my closest friends from that time are dead. One is struggling with permanent brain damage.

No thanks, I'll pass.

Now, I scarcely even imbibe alcohol. A six pack lasts me months.

Dave

I tried it all too, well mostly all. The 70's and 80's were pretty fun and I have no regrets. I only did cocaine once, and that one time made me want to do it again so I left it alone. Never did heroin or any "shootin' up" The acid was fun, so were the shrooms and various speeders. I've smoked pot most of my life off and on. Rarely more than a toke or two at a time. But I'm responsible with it, same with the drink. No driving or during work. Most people are. Should something be banned because some folks abuse it? If so ban pretty much everything.

merrylander 06-06-2014 11:18 AM

I smoked part of a joint once - did absolutely nowt for me so I decidd to stick with scotch and gin.

Dondilion 06-06-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPots (Post 223184)
Should something be banned because some folks abuse it?

Yes!

CRACK!

When crack hits a community it is like a fast moving plague.

piece-itpete 06-06-2014 12:17 PM

Don, we're on the same page.

Pete

MrPots 06-06-2014 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 223199)
Yes!

CRACK!

When crack hits a community it is like a fast moving plague.

Never did it so I'll take your word for it.

d-ray657 06-06-2014 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 223199)
Yes!

CRACK!

When crack hits a community it is like a fast moving plague.

I suppose that with crack, one might say that there are virtually no casual users ( and I believe the same to be true with meth). Essentially, use is abuse.

Regards,

D-Ray

BlueStreak 06-06-2014 05:06 PM

I'm thinking any drug that has a high probability of turning people into a public menace should be suppressed as much as possible. I have as yet to meet a pothead that fits that description. The likes of heroin addicts and barbiturate abusers are a much bigger menace to themselves than anyone else. They get high, they nod off.

Things like bath salts, crack and methamphetamines, however..............different story.

Dave

merrylander 06-07-2014 06:32 AM

It is not so much when they are high, it is when they come down off a high and need another fix but don't have the money that they become a threat.


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