Obama Did The Right Thing-POW release
 

Even the GOP wants to criticize this move

what a bunch of idiots

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5424930.html


The guy was held for 5 years. Trust me Obama did the right thing on this one.
Time will show us that.

When you are Commander in Chief you have to take care of your troops.


These GOP morons are an embarrassment.

They're pissed because he cut them out of the loop again..........

Good for him. If he had gone the proper route, they would have dragged it out for months, used it as a political tool, then nixed it in the end, anyways and Bergdahl could very well have ended up dead.......Of course, they don't care about that. Playing political games is more important. We've all seen that, time and again.

However, having said that, I hope the administration was thorough in their assessment of the released detainees. It would be horrible to have one or all of those individuals show up as participating in a terrorist attack. That is the risk the administration took in releasing them.

Dave

Benghazi

VA

9,000 left in Afghanistan

Obama does not care about the laws of this country. I can't wate for that ass hole to be gone.

The White House agreed that actions were taken in spite of legal requirements and cited "unique and exigent circumstances" as justification.

You don't give a shit about either one. Even worse things have occurred under Republic administrations and I have a hunch you didn't even notice.

Dave

Five below he is only reflecting what the people do, no one else gives a damn about the laws of this countr either.

I an sorry you ca't wate, perhaps a laxative might help.:)

I drive past a POW/MIA flag every day I pick my son up from school. The route I take winds through the Jefferson Barracks cemetery, the second largest veterans cemetery in the country. There are a lot of souls who are smiling one of their brothers is coming home, and was not willfully left behind by his commander-in-chief.

I am teaching my son much of the military credo that you do not leave a buddy behind. It reasonates as a truth in family, sports teams, school, the military, and hopefully amongst all in our country. We can squabble amongst each other, but as a country, we stand united. I'm hoping we stand united and glad he is coming home, but it looks like we have to play politics here as well. :cool::eek:

The only way that this will be ultimately viewed as a successful move is if it results in a workable peace treaty with the Taliban in Afghanistan. That is the only standard by which it can be judged, because:

- it was the Administration's primary purpose for pursuing the release of Bergdahl at this time, and;

- it was a pre-condition of the Taliban to release these specific 5 prisoners, who were / are the top 5 Taliban commanders in custody at Gitmo, before the peach talks could begin.

True!

Nevertheless a number of the prisoners in Guantanamo should not have been there
in the first place. Some of these guys were handed over to the Americans to
settle personal scores. The govt is afraid to release these guys because of
politics and the reasons you state above.

It is as if you are given a life sentence once you are in the Guantanamo net.

Not at all the case with the 5 who were released. These guys are probably good candidates for a life sentence...or more.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...-prisoner-swap

I guess they feel these fellows are defanged. :D

I do not disagree with your assessment.

This was a very cajones-laden call (similar to the Green Light on taking Bin Laden) that having go wrong could wind up bad, politically.

It's, also, why we should always desire a thinker in the Big Chair. The risk/benefit on this is hugely in favor of the trade but not if you're a simpleton. A prior "cowboy" President wouldn't have possessed the analytical skill to look past the potential opposition sell as capitulation.

A workable peace treaty with the Taliban? Really now....you're such a tool. If it were Willard who worked this deal you'd be hailing him as the hero of the new millienium...and then you'd turn around and suggest that now that our guy is out we should nuke the Taliban back into the stone age.

Well, here's another "tool" for you, then. Chuck Hagel's comments:

In an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press" from Bagram, Hagel said the prisoner trade could provide a window of opportunity for peace in Afghanistan.

"So maybe this will be a new opening that can produce an agreement," he said, noting that the United States had engaged in talks with the Taliban in the past.

http://news.yahoo.com/hagel-unannoun...114333904.html

WTF do I care for political tool Chuck Hagel's comments on Press the Meat? I'm talking about you...our local tool.:rolleyes: Our local specialized hypocrite tool.

Hagel's correct. The two guys who will be facing each other after Karzai splits (both pro-American and western educated) both said that negotiation with the Taliban were necessary for a lasting peace. A peace treaty, by definition, involves negotiating with the enemy.

Lest we not forget, by the way, that Obama has prioritized closing Gitmo. Apparently some believe that this release also served the purpose of testing the waters regarding further steps the Admin might take in releasing the current residents.

If we're in pursuit of closing Gitmo for the sake of closing Gitmo, there may not be as much "thorough assessment" in future releases.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ing-gitmo.html

I gather from Sunday Newshour that they were released to Qatar and the Qatar government has agreed thet they will nt be allowed too travel, sort of like house arrest. At least this is what the reporter from the WSJ said.

Lest you forget, it was your party of 'no' that precluded bringing the actual terrorists from Gitmo to trial in American courts. Nice try Whell. :rolleyes:

Oh, BS.

There's almost 150 prisoners left. Of those remaining, nearly 80 of them have been approved for transfer to their home country or a third country. Those transfers are continuing, albeit slowly.

That leaves about 70. Of those, about 40 have been deemed "too dangerous to release", but there's insufficient evidence against them to prosecute in US courts. There's a "Periodic Review Board" that has re-opened many of these cases, and some are in the process of being moved to the transfer list.

That leave about 30 that are potential candidates for prosecution in US courts. So you're bitching about 30 out of less than 150 prisoners. And if the House and Senate can agree on an appropriate process for prosecuting them, it may happen.

Also, if there is a negotiated cessation of hostilities in Afghanistan, most of them - at least those that are not affiliated with Al Qaeda - would likely be released anyway.

Snowbals have a better chance in hell.:)

Poor Whell seems to have twisted himself into a Gordian Knot. ;)

Lest ye forget, a number of Dems changed their stripes on this issue as well.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...-trials-grows/

That number is miniscule. Try again.:rolleyes:

As Will Rogers said, "I belong to no organized political party, I'm a Democrat"

But you see that is the nice part as they don't march in lock step like a bunch of automatons.:)

Yep, we have no brigade of unelected Gestapo-esque ideological purity enforcers like Rove et al in the Dem camp.

BS again. The Obama plan to try terrorists in court was hugely unpopular. That's why the Dems changed their tune. They had to. They were concerned about their political survival.

I would tell you to open your eyes, but we all know that ain't gonna help @ this point. ;)

What are you carrying on about? :confused:

Bull fucking hockey. How many "terra-ists" went to trial out of Abu Ghraib when the shrub was in charge? None. Not one fucking alleged terra-ist held at Abu Ghraib was ever charged during this country's involvement with management at Abu Ghraib.

How many Gitmo detainees have been convicted?

779 total detainees since 9/11.
600 released without charges filed (most after more than 5 years detention).
155 number remaining, many for over 12 years without any charges filed.
9 number died in custody, 6 by suicide.
7 number of convictions. Seven fucking convictions.

8 of the years since 9/11 were Bush years. 6 are Obama years.

You are fulla shit.

Oh, I read the article Mike. It's still miniscule by any stretch of the imagination. How about you provide a real argument with real citations regarding "hugely unpopular" other than in the far right circles you hang out with?

Take my word for it...meds can't touch what he's got.

haw!!! :d

Y'know DJ...if I thought...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly-9MDqMAd0

Googling again Bana Bitch? What a loser!

OK.

http://content.time.com/time/nation/...958686,00.html

That's because Abu Ghraib was mostly used to detain POW's, not criminals.

Genius. :rolleyes:

Bana Bitch is nothing but a MSNBC cheerleader.

WTF? We should have left this P.O.S. in the sand to lose his head.
http://nypost.com/2014/06/02/six-sol...ling-backlash/

Being in such a God-forsaken place as a hostile and remote valley in Afghanistan, there's a good chance that he was even more fucked up in the head than you are.:p