Too Many Idiots
 

McDonald's workers protest low wages, more than 100 arrested
May 21 (Reuters) - More than 100 demonstrators seeking better pay for McDonald's workers were arrested on Wednesday as protesters swarmed the fast-food chain's corporate campus near Chicago demanding a minimum wage of $15 an hour and the right to unionize.

If these people feel there skill is worth $15.00 an hour thay need to go find a job "WILLING" to pay them that. What a bunch of entitled losers!:rolleyes:

One too many idiots anyway.

Back to ignore.

I am a loser as well. Twenty years ago I worked as a taxi driver and my wage was 4 euros an hour. Complicated life circumstances forced me to do that job for quite a long time.

I'm also a loser, of course. Tossing boxes into the UPS truck on a loading dock...tossing 100 pound bags of chemicals around in a factory, for shit wages.

Oh c'mon HK, he doesn't much care about anybody's life circumstances, or how some insinuation he blurts out without thinking, might impact somebody. How dare anybody do what they can to earn a living wage.

By my estimation, about 95% of the human race are losers under Dans premise.
The vast majority of us work for someone else and have been getting shit on for the last forty years, with the kneepad wearing right leading the Walmart cheer.

Open your eyes, Dan. We losers are getting tired of the goat rope. We're breaking out the pitch forks and torches. The self made man had better run and hide 'cuz the fat guard and decorative gates protecting his elitist bastard neighborhood can't keep us Great Unwashed out forever.

Oh, happy day. I hope the gathering storm turns into a world-wide hurricane..........

Dave

Ain't nothin' wrong about an honest day's work for an honest day's pay.

When my family's circumstances brought us hard times.... I scrubbed toilets at the local campground. I suppose some might think that kind of work is demeaning, but it kept food in the table and a roof over our heads.

Yes a temporary job not a career choice.

Im not talking anything about demeaning and I don't think any job falls into that term.

A job a McDonnell's is what I did in high school. It's a job for new workers to get into the work force. Not for a job to raise a family with, buy a house and career path. The problem is there are many people that don't try to improve themselves.

By my estimates $15.00 per hour is 85% higher than the world population makes per day.

Minimum wage jobs aren't just for high school students anymore.



http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/average-m...ge-worker-myth

Just ask your self one thing, ""would you work for McDonald's for less then 15/hr?"" ... ""Or just how much would it take to work there?""



Barney

The only measure of a person's worth is their value on the labor spot market.

Do you also understand Youth are entering the job market far later than we did?

Where we worked in high school or just out of. Youth today are going to collage on debt or mom and dad. When they come to the realization they have to work for a living. Then the average new worker entering the work force will be higher 23-28. We also have far to many illegal immigrants who in turn take the youth jobs away. They work those job because of not following the proper channel to come here. Assimilating in this country is important to existence. That's why in order to become a citizen one must learn some things so they can excel and move forward.

What we have is an overload in starter jobs that some are trying to live on an raise a family. None of which is the employers fault.

Well yes I would if I was a youth getting started in life.
I worked for minimum wage when it was $4.00 an hour.

You immediately damage your argument when you use the term "losers".

You start on the wrong foot and get buried what I believe you want to be the
central thrust of your argument: People should not expect much from fast
food jobs.

No, the chance to heap scorn on 'losers' and 'idiots' was the main purpose!

The "losers" are the ones protesting with an entitlement mentality.

Most of the people I see in fast food jobs look to be much much older. Very few teenagers.



Barney

Yet another post from this narcissist asshole who I might add failed to graduate high school. How much credibility does one give to such a person. If intelligence was a commodity, he would be a pauper.

At this point you're just justifying his victim narrative.

It looks like you are right.

By quoting him, we are validating his very existence on this forum.

They don't care Dan. They want everyone to be equally miserable. The real irony is that the standard of living of Americans has been consistently raised by entrepreneurship and capitalism. They miss the innovation, and like the purported discrepancy between wages of men and women, refuse to consider all inputs to the equation.

If $15.00/hr is viable, then a business with $15.00/hr employees could be started and be more efficient, thus, driving the buisnesses with lower paid workers out of the market. That will not happen precisely because today's minimum wage workers get paid exactly what they're worth. One can bitch all thay want about markets and how unfair they are, not emotional; however, that does not mean market effects don't exist.

What will happen to today's minimum workers once it's mandated they be paid more than they're worth?

Perhaps, if California didn't drive buisinesses away to Texas, had a more effective school system, and didn't import so many educated foreigners and non-educated foreigners there would be more jobs. California is fast becoming a "service' state with the Post Modernist liberals along the coast and their service laborers in the interior. For all the bluster, liberal policies have had the exact opposite of what they were purportedly trying to achieve.

That question has no relevance because I'd assume everyone here does not compete in the entry labor market. Why ought government preclude people from making their own decisions? Oh, and I'm not buying the asymmetric information argument. I worked for $1.65/hr—so what. I sure the hell didn't stay there and it did provide experience.

Worth in this context means what they're paid. It has no meaning beyond that and is not derogatory in such discussions. BTW, I think you know that. :D

He was probably still pissed after seeing all those bussed in SEIU folks at the McD's headquarters.

Not just California.... Our whole nation has primarily service industry jobs. This is true in both red and blue states.

You are so right. Well my use of the term "loser" was an ironic reflection on Dan's use of "loser".

I ask myself what Dan expects to achieve by posting such rude things.

I learned a LOT when I worked at Burger King - mainly that I didn't ever want to work there again.

Pete

Indeed!

Exactly my point! To that I say so it's not the employers fault.

But you're not a young man anymore. You're a grown man trying to live off of your earnings. That's the point you're missing.

As I see it, this is the root of the problem;

One thing you have right is that people shouldn't expect much from service industry jobs. Those jobs should be full of little more than young people trying to get started. And, that is exactly what they used to be.

Now, we have shipped off so many of the "good" jobs off to foreign lands in the name of fatter profit margins and lower prices................

......that what's left cannot meet the market demand for better employment.

So, now, we have millions of people who should have moved on years ago, stuck in the food service industry.

Trouble ahead, my friend. It only gets worse from here.

Dave

Doesn't matter whose "fault" it is. Nobody cares about that. Forget it. It's the existential issue of there being no better employment.........

..........but people still have to live, Dan.

Dave

How long did you think the idea of a economy built on low wage employment would last?

Like it or not, most Americans have become dependent on the need for an employer. It's what we are now. And if the available employment base fails to provide upward mobility and/or livable wages, there is going to be trouble. You can bet your life on it.

Even Mitt Romney and a few other "establishment" conservative politicians and business leaders have come to understand this. Problem is, they helped create this mess with their anti-worker and outsourcing bullshit and now they're going to have to figure out how to help fix it.

It's been a long time comin'. I hope you're ready for it.

Dave

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Back to Africa with the ungrateful sons a bitches, eh 5 below?

5 below is nothin' if not a right wingnut worn out cliche generator.

Hey!!! Watch it, dude. He's a victim of dyslexia and mean libtards.