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4-2-7 05-12-2014 09:44 PM

Tim Geithner: The White House Asked Me to Mislead the Public
 
Just Like Benghazi Imagine That

Tim Geithner: The White House Asked Me to Mislead the Public


By FRANCESCA CHAMBERS, The Daily Mail

The White House wanted Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to lie on Sunday talk shows to downplay the part Social Security played in driving the deficit, it was revealed today.

Geithner writes in his memoir Stress Test, out today, that the White House communications director asked him to downplay the long term cost of Social Security spending to mollify the Democratic Party's base.

'I remember during one Roosevelt Room prep session before I appeared on the Sunday shows, I objected when Dan Pfeiffer wanted me to say Social Security didn't contribute to the deficit. It wasn't a main driver of our future deficits, but it did contribute,' he says.

'Pfeiffer said the line was a 'dog whistle' to the left, a phrase I had never heard before. He had to explain that the phrase was code to the Democratic base, signaling that we intended to protect Social Security.'


Vid
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/05/12...mislead-public

Zeke 05-12-2014 09:52 PM

1. Go f*ck yourself, troll.
2. Go f*ck yourself, troll.

4-2-7 05-12-2014 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 217979)
1. Go f*ck yourself, troll.
2. Go f*ck yourself, troll.

No Thank you.

What kind of post was that?

Rajoo 05-12-2014 10:52 PM

Watch where your are going. I am Troll Patrol.


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Tom Joad 05-13-2014 05:26 AM

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4-2-7 05-13-2014 09:24 AM

Well the trolls are out to disrupt information. I'm sorry but it's posted already.

bobabode 05-13-2014 09:32 AM

Don't feed the troll.

4-2-7 05-13-2014 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 218036)
Don't feed the troll.

Your right, I'm sorry but I could help bringing it to the attentions of others.

bobabode 05-13-2014 09:51 AM

You're the troll Dan.

whell 05-13-2014 10:34 AM

The "don't feed the troll" routine on this forum has gone beyond the point of being lame. In this case, the content of a book published by a former Obama cabinet member is being treated as information that is not subject to / open to discussion? Really?

I suggest that folks really start taking a look at what they want this forum to be. If you simply want a forum where opinions not shared by the majority are unwelcome, and topics that might not flatter the current Admin are not treated as legitimate discussion material, then maybe it's time to change the name of the forum.

Me? I'm fine with it either way, but the "don't feed the troll" responses are starting to look like tools used by a few to stifle legitimate discourse.

And Zeke, your contributions to this thread speak volumes about you. 'Nuf said.

bobabode 05-13-2014 10:41 AM

That's bullshit Mike. It's free speech. Dan made his bed now he gets to lie in it.

Rajoo 05-13-2014 10:54 AM

Whell: " In this case, the content of a book published by a former Obama cabinet member is being treated as information that is not subject to / open to discussion? Really?"

Quite simple. Start a thread about it and see what happens instead of pontificating. You can come up with a "Help Feed the Troll" graphic to counteract. :)

Zeke 05-13-2014 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 218060)
And Zeke, your contributions to this thread speak volumes about you. 'Nuf said.

Actually, they speak volumes about my -- current -- lack of tolerance for bullshit and what happens if/when you decided to give the intellectually illiterate a second chance.

Basically, they merely confirm why they needed to be eradicated in the first place.

I should have known better but, in the interest of actual discourse, I purged my Ignore List.

My, ahem, "error." :rolleyes:

Rajoo 05-13-2014 11:09 AM

You know what is moronic about this Whell? You are legitimizing a troll whom some of us find despicable in the name of free speech. Cuts both ways.

Ike Bana 05-13-2014 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 217980)
No Thank you.

What kind of post was that?

This kind...go fuck yourself in the ass, troll. Zeke's just a nicer guy than I.

Ike Bana 05-13-2014 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 218060)
The "don't feed the troll" routine on this forum has gone beyond the point of being lame. In this case, the content of a book published by a former Obama cabinet member is being treated as information that is not subject to / open to discussion? Really?

I suggest that folks really start taking a look at what they want this forum to be. If you simply want a forum where opinions not shared by the majority are unwelcome, and topics that might not flatter the current Admin are not treated as legitimate discussion material, then maybe it's time to change the name of the forum.

Me? I'm fine with it either way, but the "don't feed the troll" responses are starting to look like tools used by a few to stifle legitimate discourse.

My ass. There's no legitimate discourse with 5 below. There's a legit member way to do it and a troll way to do it whell, and you know it. I suspect if the troll were of a different ideology, you'd be spewing "don't feed the troll" like there's no tomorrow.

JBS... 05-13-2014 01:06 PM

IMHO, this site started to go to to shit when all the none AK'ers joined, long before 13 joined this site. It's nothing more then romper room now. :confused:

bobabode 05-13-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBS... (Post 218101)
IMHO, this site started to go to to shit when all the none AK'ers joined, long before 13 joined this site. It's nothing more then romper room now. :confused:

How do you know that they aren't AKers? :confused: Heck, even you use a different handle here.

Rajoo 05-13-2014 01:32 PM

I introduced myself with my AK username which a few people here refer to me with.
Same basic rule, treat people the way you want to be treated. Disagree without being disagreeable. Heck for me this is a forum that combines good knowledge, political opinions interjected with great humor for entertainment.

But, trash a forum, get trashed in return. Par for the course.
I keep coming back to the same question for -5. If you cannot write coherently, why do you post?

And Dan, I have you Ignored on a permanent basis. Troll watch continues.

Zeke 05-13-2014 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 218116)
I keep coming back to the same question for -5. If you cannot write coherently, why do you post?

Because he's allowed to.

Rajoo 05-13-2014 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 218117)
Because he's allowed to.

This guy on AK comes off like a good Samaritan of sorts.
If so, I expect self control based on self respect, not by policing. Just an IMO.
I did express a desire to ban -5, but looking back, that was selfish of me

Tom Joad 05-13-2014 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 218060)
The "don't feed the troll" routine on this forum has gone beyond the point of being lame. In this case, the content of a book published by a former Obama cabinet member is being treated as information that is not subject to / open to discussion? Really?

If the overwhelming majority of ones threads are troll threads, the occasional ones that have some merit, and I am by no means implying that this one fits that category, are also going to be regarded as troll threads.

Fair or unfair, that's the way life is.

It's the same principle as the one in the story about the little boy who cried wolf.

mezz 05-13-2014 02:09 PM

Bitter Obama clingers.

bobabode 05-13-2014 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 218129)
Bitter Obama clingers.

Yeh, so what? How did your prediction turn out on Nov. '12? :rolleyes: Your boys Romney and Lyin' Ryan got their butts waxed. That's democracy for you. Don't like it, move to Somalia. :cool:

Rajoo 05-13-2014 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 218129)
Bitter Obama clingers.

WOW. Who wrote that for you? :rolleyes:

whell 05-13-2014 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 218062)
That's bullshit Mike. It's free speech. Dan made his bed now he gets to lie in it.

Whatever. But one post gets 4 "troll" responses, and the post is regarding a legit subject - statements in a forthcoming book by a former cabinet member? I'd say that the "turnabout is fair play" thing is getting way overdone.

d-ray657 05-13-2014 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 218060)
The "don't feed the troll" routine on this forum has gone beyond the point of being lame. In this case, the content of a book published by a former Obama cabinet member is being treated as information that is not subject to / open to discussion? Really?

I suggest that folks really start taking a look at what they want this forum to be. If you simply want a forum where opinions not shared by the majority are unwelcome, and topics that might not flatter the current Admin are not treated as legitimate discussion material, then maybe it's time to change the name of the forum.

Me? I'm fine with it either way, but the "don't feed the troll" responses are starting to look like tools used by a few to stifle legitimate discourse.

And Zeke, your contributions to this thread speak volumes about you. 'Nuf said.

We agree a little bit. I believe that the "Don't feed the troll" posts are counter-productive. Worthless posts deserve no response. Even if the occasional post by this individual might be relevant, his posting history has - for a number of reasons - resulted in my use of the ignore feature. Because of the enormous number of worthless posts, I have determined that for my purposes, I will not bother trying to pick the flea shit out of the pepper.

Regards,

D-Ray

Ike Bana 05-13-2014 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBS... (Post 218101)
IMHO, this site started to go to to shit when all the none AK'ers joined, long before 13 joined this site. It's nothing more then romper room now. :confused:

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.

PS - I'm a relatively long time AK member, if not a heavy user, under a different user name. So...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWjWIvJfpNI

PS - you talk about AK members like they're the fucking 12 apostles or some such shit. There are as many dickheads on AK as I've run into anywhere else. And considerably more tweaker nerds than anywhere else.

You spell worse than 5 below. You got the dyslexia too?

Ike Bana 05-13-2014 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 218117)
Because he's allowed to.

I'm curious Zeke, if you were boss, would he be allowed to?

Ike Bana 05-13-2014 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 218120)
This guy on AK comes off like a good Samaritan of sorts.
If so, I expect self control based on self respect, not by policing. Just an IMO.
I did express a desire to ban -5, but looking back, that was selfish of me

I don't think it's selfish to want to be rid of somebody who's only purpose is to disrupt a forum. Not selfish in the slightest.

bobabode 05-13-2014 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 218155)
Whatever. But one post gets 4 "troll" responses, and the post is regarding a legit subject - statements in a forthcoming book by a former cabinet member? I'd say that the "turnabout is fair play" thing is getting way overdone.

:confused: Have you been reading his posts? This guy suggested another member was a pedophile because he didn't like the other guy's opinion and flat refused to apologize for it.

Mike if you want to carry on a confab with this guy go for it, nobody is stopping you and if you don't want to hear my opinion in an open thread here, feel free to ignore it. No goddamn skin off my nose.

Tom Joad 05-13-2014 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 218129)
Bitter Obama clingers.

Only one post and you made my ignore list!

Thanks for making it easy Dude!

4-2-7 05-13-2014 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 218161)
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.

PS - I'm a relatively long time AK member, if not a heavy user, under a different user name. So...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWjWIvJfpNI

PS - you talk about AK members like they're the fucking 12 apostles or some such shit. There are as many dickheads on AK as I've run into anywhere else. And considerably more tweaker nerds than anywhere else.

You spell worse than 5 below. You got the dyslexia too?

So whats your AK member name or are you a pussy troll?

4-2-7 05-13-2014 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 218062)
That's bullshit Mike. It's free speech. Dan made his bed now he gets to lie in it.

I'll be lying in it for a long time Bobby Boo Boo, it should be fun right up to 2016.

You all can show you immaturity, really it's a charter flaw to not look at all sides.

Troll away Bobby since that all I have see from you on this site.

Oh I really want to thank you for inviting me here isn't it great.:)


Now the facts remain the same that bitch you help put into the White House is a compulsive lier.

4-2-7 05-13-2014 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 218129)
Bitter Obama clingers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 218141)
Yeh, so what? How did your prediction turn out on Nov. '12? :rolleyes: Your boys Romney and Lyin' Ryan got their butts waxed. That's democracy for you. Don't like it, move to Somalia. :cool:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 218142)
WOW. Who wrote that for you? :rolleyes:

You see how you two act? this member longer than both of you said a general statement. Both of you pounced on them personally. We all can act like this and the site will not change. There are a tons of threads here that I never bother to comment on. Why? because I'm not interested, so a word of advice if the thread is BS, you don't like it why are you posting on it?

This is in fact troll behavior.

4-2-7 05-13-2014 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBS... (Post 218101)
IMHO, this site started to go to to shit when all the none AK'ers joined, long before 13 joined this site. It's nothing more then romper room now. :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 218161)
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.

PS - I'm a relatively long time AK member, if not a heavy user, under a different user name. So...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWjWIvJfpNI

PS - you talk about AK members like they're the fucking 12 apostles or some such shit. There are as many dickheads on AK as I've run into anywhere else. And considerably more tweaker nerds than anywhere else.

You spell worse than 5 below. You got the dyslexia too?

Another general statement made by a member.

What happened Troll #3 personally attacked them.

4-2-7 05-13-2014 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 218192)
Only one post and you made my ignore list!

Thanks for making it easy Dude!

This is the problem with the left.

Rajoo 05-13-2014 06:39 PM

How to Defeat an Internet Troll

1. Try to ignore the troll
2. Mute the troll
3. Don't try to argue back
4. Ask a person with more power to deal with him/her

Been there, done that. So we are at this step.

Add your own method

This one has possibilities, it is graphic and certainly entertaining. :D

http://www.wikihow.com/Defeat-an-Internet-Troll

4-2-7 05-13-2014 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 218216)
How to Defeat an Internet Troll

1. Try to ignore the troll
2. Mute the troll
3. Don't try to argue back
4. Ask a person with more power to deal with him/her

Been there, done that. So we are at this step.

Add your own method

This one has possibilities, it is graphic and certainly entertaining. :D

http://www.wikihow.com/Defeat-an-Internet-Troll

My hope would be that you and others are able to follow that at least till your ready for diversity in your life.

Rajoo 05-13-2014 07:10 PM

Here is my SWAT team. :D

http://lupocattivoblog.files.wordpre...oll_patrol.gif


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