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piece-itpete 01-15-2010 10:32 AM

Brown takes the lead.
 
http://ow.ly/WFrx

Curiouser and curiouser.

Pete

Boreas 01-15-2010 10:44 AM

Ummm..... Suffolk University/7News survey?

Suffolk’s Political Research Center?

I think the pollster's name says it all: David Paleologos. ;)

Coakley may well lose. The Democrats were far too smug about holding onto this seat but I'm not going to start worrying on the basis of some unknown small college pollster.

John

Fast_Eddie 01-15-2010 11:10 AM

Shoot, even Rasmussen has Coakley ahead, if only by a few points. No one ever accused Rasmussen of being a liberal outfit. Not saying it can't happen, but there will have to be more shift than there has yet been for a Republican to win that seat. Will be an interesting one to watch.

piece-itpete 01-15-2010 11:13 AM

Yep, just a little outfit. And I feel for those poor folks that live there, I was at ground zero in the 04 election and the bombardment was intense and irritating.

But what great entertainment!

Pete

Boreas 01-15-2010 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 15496)
Yep, just a little outfit. And I feel for those poor folks that live there, I was at ground zero in the 04 election and the bombardment was intense and irritating.

But what great entertainment!

Pete

It's a nail-biter, good theater too. So much hangs on this election. A Democratic win will only maintain their tenuous hold on the Senate but if the Republicans pick up this seat everything changes.

God damned filibuster! Imagine a party with a 59 to 41 majority being hamstrung by such a half assed rule.

John

merrylander 01-15-2010 11:36 AM

A very un-democratic Senate claiming to be part of a democartic Republic. Hey, look at it this way Brown wins, the reform plan goes down in flames, the GOP crows but then come November they eat crow as the backlash hits.:rolleyes:

Boreas 01-15-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 15499)
A very un-democratic Senate claiming to be part of a democartic Republic. Hey, look at it this way Brown wins, the reform plan goes down in flames, the GOP crows but then come November they eat crow as the backlash hits.:rolleyes:

Rob, if you could guarantee that scenario, I'd be all for Brown winning. :(

John

merrylander 01-15-2010 12:28 PM

I would love to see it happen then maybe wiser heads would prevail and we will go single payer.

d-ray657 01-15-2010 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 15510)
I would love to see it happen then maybe wiser heads would prevail and we will go single payer.

Rob Quixote

Regards,

Don Quixote

merrylander 01-15-2010 12:56 PM

Well Winnie did say that we eventually do the right thing, that's Winston Churchill not Winnie the Pooh. Actually Pooh would be an improvement over some of thecertifiable idiots we have in there now.

Fast_Eddie 01-15-2010 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 15510)
I would love to see it happen then maybe wiser heads would prevail and we will go single payer.

I wouldn't hold my breath. The Tea Partiers would sacarafice a cow in some little known Christian ritual to stop Socialism from infecting God's chosen nation. Pat Robertson would be the presiding clergy.

merrylander 01-15-2010 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie (Post 15520)
I wouldn't hold my breath. The Tea Partiers would sacarafice a cow in some little known Christian ritual to stop Socialism from infecting God's chosen nation. Pat Robertson would be the presiding clergy.

Or have a cow.:rolleyes:

I just wish the tea partiers would go off somewhere and perform an impossible sex act.

piece-itpete 01-15-2010 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie (Post 15520)
I wouldn't hold my breath. The Tea Partiers would sacarafice a cow in some little known Christian ritual to stop Socialism from infecting God's chosen nation. Pat Robertson would be the presiding clergy.

Ahem, you guys control the government.

Pete

Fast_Eddie 01-15-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 15529)
Ahem, you guys control the government.

Pete

I'm more pissed at self-rightous liberals right now than conservatives. Trust me, I'm keenly aware of the Democratic Party's inability to organize and act in their own self interest. But I do still have to value the diversity of thought that my party allows.

Boreas 01-15-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 15529)
Ahem, you guys control the government.

Pete

Right. :rolleyes:

John

d-ray657 01-15-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 15522)
Or have a cow.:rolleyes:

I just wish the tea partiers would go off somewhere and perform an impossible sex act.

Tell them to make like an earthworm and go F*** themselves. BTW, the earthworm made the top ten in a recent science book that ranked the top 100 species according to their effect on the development of this planet. This paragraph is now protected by its redeeming social value, and is thus not obscene.

Regards,

D-Ray

merrylander 01-15-2010 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie (Post 15531)
I'm more pssed at self-rightous liberals right now than conservatives. Trust me, I'm keenly aware of the Democratic Party's inability to organize and act in their own self interest. But I do still have to value the diversity of thought that my party allows.

That is better than the other one where thought is forbidden.:rolleyes:

piece-itpete 01-15-2010 02:13 PM

How dare you think such things :)

Pete

Writewing 01-15-2010 02:16 PM

I think the polls if anything will serve to scare the Left into action so it could go either way no matter what the Polls say. I think the big story here is that its tight in the first place. Its all going to hinge on the middle and if they will actually vote, we know both sides will go to vote but I am not so sure about the middle.
There is also the issue of what happens if Brown does win, if its close there will be delays of 10 days for absent ballot counts if not a total recount. If its a large margain win it will be curious to see how quick they will seat him.
The final 72 hour push is about to begin so hang on to your hats.

Fast_Eddie 01-15-2010 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 15536)
That is better than the other one where thought is forbidden.:rolleyes:

Indeed. And that's why I value it. But decision making by dogma is, unfortunately, more efficent. The guys who stop to think it over will always be second. They may be right, but they'll be second. We live in a world, or at least a country, that gives a lot of credit to the guys who are first.

It was fascinating and enlightening to watch them brand Kerry as a "flip flopper". His weakness was that he would think about important issues. We sure don't want that. And presented with better information he might even (gasp!) change his mind! Certainly didn't have to worry about Bush doing that! He never made any mistakes. Said so himself.

finnbow 01-15-2010 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie (Post 15544)
Certainly didn't have to worry about Bush doing that! He never made any mistakes. Said so himself.

If you decide with your gut, you can't change your mind. It was never involved to begin with.

piece-itpete 01-15-2010 02:26 PM

There were many good reasons to vote for Kerry:

"We've got better vision. We've got better ideas. We've got real plans. We've got a better sense of what's happening to America, and we've got better hair." John Kerry.

:)

Pete

Writewing 01-15-2010 02:26 PM

And if you wont stand for something you will fall for anything

Boreas 01-15-2010 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 15550)
There were many good reasons to vote for Kerry:

"We've got better vision. We've got better ideas. We've got real plans. We've got a better sense of what's happening to America, and we've got better hair." John Kerry.

:)

Pete

That last one is yet to be decided. We need to have a "Hair-Off" between Rick Perry and Mitt Romney vs. John Kerry and Rod Blagojevich.

The Republicans definitely win the Tanning Competition.

John

finnbow 01-15-2010 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Writewing (Post 15551)
And if you wont stand for something you will fall for anything

... and the woman flying upside down in an airplane had a hairy crack up.

merrylander 01-15-2010 02:33 PM

Shades of Fledermaus;

Rosalinda: Did you hear a voice?

Albert: Only my own, isn't it beautiful.

:rolleyes:

piece-itpete 01-15-2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 15552)
The Republicans definitely win the Tanning Competition.

Whoo-hoo!

But of course, perfect people are perfectly tan :p

Or that should be :puke:

Pete

Writewing 01-15-2010 02:35 PM

Yea nobody on the Left tans, Edwards and Kerry were pale and sickly looking

Fast_Eddie 01-15-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 15550)
There were many good reasons to vote for Kerry:

"We've got better vision. We've got better ideas. We've got real plans. We've got a better sense of what's happening to America, and we've got better hair." John Kerry.

:)

Pete

What did they say to Kerry the day after the 2004 election?

"Why the long face, John?"

piece-itpete 01-15-2010 03:09 PM

Lmao!

For seeming so stiff he's pretty funny:

"I just want to assure you that both President Bush and I have very firm alibis." -- after three Davenport, Iowa banks were robbed while Kerry and Bush were campaigning in the city at the same time

Pete

d-ray657 01-15-2010 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 15564)
Lmao!

For seeming so stiff he's pretty funny:

"I just want to assure you that both President Bush and I have very firm alibis." -- after three Davenport, Iowa banks were robbed while Kerry and Bush were campaigning in the city at the same time

Pete

Did you see the film clip that Al Gore did on the West Wing set. He asked Martin Sheen if he could sit in the president's chair, and spends the rest of the evening pretending to answer the phone as the president, etc. . . .

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/1193895/4263579

Regards,

D-ray

Fast_Eddie 01-15-2010 03:49 PM

Well, sounds like the White House is worried about it:

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news...D=Net_Newsmain

It would be ironic if Kennedy's seat became the one a minority of Republicans needed to block progress again.

Fast_Eddie 01-15-2010 03:56 PM

I found this:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=9574997

Interesting information. So it would take four or five days to get it done. It would be a mess, but Brown will have to win by a good margin to stop it, at least I think. Otherwise it would be pretty easy to pull a Katherin Harris (or I guess an anti-Katherin Harris since she rushed inaccurate votes rather than delaying accurate votes. Sixes, I guess) and delay the thing for, what, a few weeks I'd think.

My guess it's much adoo about nothing. But good spectator sport.

Writewing 01-15-2010 08:34 PM

Obama is heading there Sunday to rally the base, on Hardball tonight the general thinking was the middle is already lost and Obama will try to get the Left excited or scared enough to go out and vote. We shall see if he has more success than he did begging for the Olympics.

finnbow 01-15-2010 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Writewing (Post 15629)
We shall see if he has more success than he did begging for the Olympics.

Now that is a gratuitously ignorant comment. I guess I shouldn't have expected otherwise.

d-ray657 01-15-2010 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 15631)
Now that is a gratuitously ignorant comment. I guess I shouldn't have expected otherwise.

Try the ignore setting. It really helps. Raises the level of debate immensely.

Regards,

D-Ray

Writewing 01-15-2010 08:57 PM

Really? I thought it was pretty funny.......still do! Obama went hat in hand to sell himself on giving the Olympics to Chicago....he just may have done some groveling aswell.


So you can write statements of insult to the Right but dont dare do it to the Left.......how nice for you.



"And the problem is that these wackos have become the party's loyal "base." Accordingly, no GOP politician is willing to call foul on these nut cases. Look at all the back-pedaling/groveling when one finally gets up the nerve to say something critical about Limbaugh or Bob Jones."

That was you describing folks as "back-pedaling/groveling wackos and nut cases" correct?
Nobody would find that ignorant or an insult............your too good for that.

Writewing 01-15-2010 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 15635)
Try the ignore setting. It really helps. Raises the level of debate immensely.

Regards,

D-Ray

Ahhh the "tolerant" Left, champions of free speech...gotta love em!
One could point out the fact that had your party not simply decided to "ignore" its critics you all wouldnt be in panic mode today but thats just crazy talk.
People are against Healthcare................just ignore them
Climate change may not be real and the data is flawed or incomplete...........just ignore them
Cap and Trade..............ignore them
Hmmm, I say a pattern here.

Fast_Eddie 01-15-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Writewing (Post 15636)
Really? I thought it was pretty funny.......still do! Obama went hat in hand to sell himself on giving the Olympics to Chicago....he just may have done some groveling aswell.

I see. The lesson being that you shouldn't try. If you try you may fail. Lame to celebrate the failure of our country.

noonereal 01-15-2010 09:25 PM

yak yak yak

get an original thought


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