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whell 05-02-2014 09:54 AM

Issa Subpoenas Kerry
 
The House issued a subpoena for all relevant communications - Dept of State, DoD, White House - on the Benghazi matter last year. Nothing was turned over to Issa's committee. Then this week following a court order Judicial Watch gets the emails that Issa's committee didn't get from the White House and the State Dept. Issa is pissed, and for good reason.

However, calling Kerry to testify is a risky move. He might bore Issa's committee to death and completely derail the investigative process. :rolleyes:

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-conten...ver-letter.pdf

Tom Joad 05-02-2014 09:56 AM

More election year theater designed to amp up the right wing base, as if they needed any more amping up.:rolleyes:

Pio1980 05-02-2014 10:26 AM

The "Party of fiscal responsibility" still owes the country $24 Billion in lost commerce for self aggrandizing partisan grandstanding, and just piles more on with this non-issue intended for similar motives. How much health care could $24 Billion get us, one has to wonder.

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icenine 05-02-2014 10:39 AM

Issa is done. He is just tyring to be shore up his shaky position because nothing he touches turns into anything except bagger talking points. The new House will probably replace him after 2014.

Rajoo 05-02-2014 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 214947)
The House issued a subpoena for all relevant communications - Dept of State, DoD, White House - on the Benghazi matter last year. Nothing was turned over to Issa's committee. Then this week following a court order Judicial Watch gets the emails that Issa's committee didn't get from the White House and the State Dept. Issa is pissed, and for good reason.

However, calling Kerry to testify is a risky move. He might bore Issa's committee to death and completely derail the investigative process. :rolleyes:

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-conten...ver-letter.pdf

Or Issa could turn off Kerry's microphone if he does not like the answers. :rolleyes:
More than risky, a stupid move on Issa's part IMO. But then it's going to play to the mindless base.

BlueStreak 05-02-2014 11:07 AM

Subpoena Kerry for what? Is he hoping he might at last find some validation for his pathetic witch hunt?

Dave

donquixote99 05-02-2014 11:16 AM

He looks important if he subpoenas important people. It's just grandstanding.

merrylander 05-02-2014 11:18 AM

Well if he is going to be impotent he may as well look impotent. :)

Pio1980 05-02-2014 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 214974)
Well if he is going to be impotent he may as well look impotent. :)

So, if he and Boner stand side-by-side will they neutralize each ither?

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4-2-7 05-02-2014 12:26 PM

Good, and get some more emails.

BlueStreak 05-02-2014 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 214981)
So, if he and Boner stand side-by-side will they neutralize each ither?

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Seeing as how they are in phase, no. Their bass will become loose and boomy.

whell 05-02-2014 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 214959)
The "Party of fiscal responsibility" still owes the country $24 Billion in lost commerce for self aggrandizing partisan grandstanding, and just piles more on with this non-issue intended for similar motives. How much health care could $24 Billion get us, one has to wonder.

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In a $4 trillion annual budget, $24 billion is nothing. Hell, we lost more money bailing out a flailing auto manufacturer.

Pio1980 05-02-2014 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 215018)
In a $4 trillion annual budget, $24 billion is nothing. Hell, we lost more money bailing out a flailing auto manufacturer.

Unlike the 24 bil, AFAIK we got most if not all of that back. Who da thunk they were more trustworthy than the Teapublicans.

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donquixote99 05-02-2014 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 215018)
In a $4 trillion annual budget, $24 billion is nothing. Hell, we lost more money bailing out a flailing auto manufacturer.

24 Billion is nothing? You actually said that?

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BlueStreak 05-02-2014 03:45 PM

4 lives is nothing, compared to 299 or 4,500.

However, Issa was busy stealing cars as St. Ronnie did nothing about the Marine Barracks bombing. And intentionally deaf as a stone when GW admitted to going into Iraq and staying there, under bogus pretenses.

Dave

bobabode 05-02-2014 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 214967)
Subpoena Kerry for what? Is he hoping he might at last find some validation for his pathetic witch hunt?

Dave

Indeed. John Kerry was a U.S. Senator at the time and had nothing to do with the Benghazi attack. Sounds like utter bullchit to me but then after two years of fruitlessly flailing about, maybe Issa has reached the end of his rope.

Pio1980 05-02-2014 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 215036)
Indeed. John Kerry was a U.S. Senator at the time and had nothing to do with the Benghazi attack. Sounds like utter bullchit to me but then after two years of fruitlessly flailing about, maybe Issa has reached the end of his rope.

Fine with me if it's a noose for himself.

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bobabode 05-02-2014 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 215037)
Fine with me if it's a noose for himself.

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He's not even worth that. He's one of the richest dudes in the House from his shitty car alarm business. As Dave alluded to, he's nothing but a car thief who got away scot free who then parlayed his knowledge into an aftermarket car alarm biz.

Here ya go Steve, if you haven't seen it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Issa

merrylander 05-03-2014 06:00 AM

Meanwhile he is wasting taxpayer's money by the truck load.

Oerets 05-03-2014 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 215029)
4 lives is nothing, compared to 299 or 4,500.

However, Issa was busy stealing cars as St. Ronnie did nothing about the Marine Barracks bombing. And intentionally deaf as a stone when GW admitted to going into Iraq and staying there, under bogus pretenses.

Dave

But but they are Republicans, you know the only patriotic ones amongst us.:D




Barney

whell 05-03-2014 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 215036)
Indeed. John Kerry was a U.S. Senator at the time and had nothing to do with the Benghazi attack. Sounds like utter bullchit to me but then after two years of fruitlessly flailing about, maybe Issa has reached the end of his rope.

So you're saying that - whether the issue is about Benghazi, or whether its about investigating a security leak - that its just fine and dandy to ignore a subpoena? Kerry was Sec of State at the time that the congressional subpoena for records was issued, and he told the committee at the time that he would fully cooperate. A year later, records that were requested by the committee and not provided by Kerry and the State Dept show up in a FOIA request by Judicial Watch.

Now, if you regard that as "utter bullchit", I guess you're also saying that you'd prefer that Congress surrender its authority to exercise its constitutional power of oversight.

merrylander 05-03-2014 08:52 AM

Dear me all this worry about congress and uts powers when anyone with an IQ greater than his/her age knows Issa is simply running a witch hunt.

BlueStreak 05-03-2014 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 215105)
So you're saying that - whether the issue is about Benghazi, or whether its about investigating a security leak - that its just fine and dandy to ignore a subpoena? Kerry was Sec of State at the time that the congressional subpoena for records was issued, and he told the committee at the time that he would fully cooperate. A year later, records that were requested by the committee and not provided by Kerry and the State Dept show up in a FOIA request by Judicial Watch.

Now, if you regard that as "utter bullchit", I guess you're also saying that you'd prefer that Congress surrender its authority to exercise its constitutional power of oversight.

Maybe it not "alright" to ignore a subpoena, but I understand Kerrys point in refusing.......

.......something about "..suffering a fool.".

I wonder if the same cast of characters will be so hell bent to bring down a president over this type of situation..........when he's one of theirs?

Dave

BlueStreak 05-03-2014 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 215139)
Dear me all this worry about congress and uts powers when anyone with an IQ greater than his/her age knows Issa is simply running a witch hunt.

Exactly.

Dave

Pio1980 05-03-2014 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 215049)
He's not even worth that. He's one of the richest dudes in the House from his shitty car alarm business. As Dave alluded to, he's nothing but a car thief who got away scot free who then parlayed his knowledge into an aftermarket car alarm biz.

Here ya go Steve, if you haven't seen it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Issa

Saw it but did not dig deep enuff. Figures.

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whell 05-03-2014 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 215139)
Dear me all this worry about congress and uts powers when anyone with an IQ greater than his/her age knows Issa is simply running a witch hunt.

Irrelevant. The subpoena was issued, and the Dept of State failed to comply. That is now the relevant issue.

whell 05-03-2014 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 215142)
Maybe it not "alright" to ignore a subpoena, but I understand Kerrys point in refusing.......

.......something about "..suffering a fool.".

I wonder if the same cast of characters will be so hell bent to bring down a president over this type of situation..........when he's one of theirs?

Dave

Can you say Scooter Libby?

merrylander 05-03-2014 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 215148)
Irrelevant. The subpoena was issued, and the Dept of State failed to comply. That is now the relevant issue.

So what, if he is holding Congress in contempt he is not alone, 90% of the country does also. If you are worrying about 'the rule of law' you are about twenty years too late.

Pio1980 05-03-2014 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 215148)
Irrelevant. The subpoena was issued, and the Dept of State failed to comply. That is now the relevant issue.

OMFG, The horror!!
How could Kerry possibly refuse the opportunity to tell him he is an asshole to his face.

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Rajoo 05-03-2014 03:03 PM

http://hipiseverything.files.wordpre...everything.jpg

Sorry if the image is too wide.

bobabode 05-03-2014 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 215105)
So you're saying that - whether the issue is about Benghazi, or whether its about investigating a security leak - that its just fine and dandy to ignore a subpoena? Kerry was Sec of State at the time that the congressional subpoena for records was issued, and he told the committee at the time that he would fully cooperate. A year later, records that were requested by the committee and not provided by Kerry and the State Dept show up in a FOIA request by Judicial Watch.

Now, if you regard that as "utter bullchit", I guess you're also saying that you'd prefer that Congress surrender its authority to exercise its constitutional power of oversight.

You sure have that whirligig of false assumptions goin' on today bro. Try breathing into a paper bag, it'll help with that hyperventilation problem you have.

merrylander 05-03-2014 03:07 PM

S'OK Rajoo when you are dealing with a fathead can't be helped.

whell 05-03-2014 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 215218)
You sure have that whirligig of false assumptions goin' on today bro. Try breathing into a paper bag, it'll help with that hyperventilation problem you have.

Nice dodge...:rolleyes:

bobabode 05-03-2014 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 215317)
Nice dodge...:rolleyes:

Not really.:rolleyes: I was just being nice to you Mikey.

whell 05-03-2014 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 215216)

Wow. All the way back to 1972 to dig up dirt. Impressive.

BlueStreak 05-04-2014 02:09 AM

It points to character, or rather, the lack thereof.

Dave


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