New York compliant AR-15.
 

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Black Rain Ordnance has removed the pistol grip and given the new weapon a non-threaded muzzle, a fixed stock, a 10-round low-capacity approved magazine and a gas block "without the evil bayonet lug," the company said in a newsletter.

It has been designed to comply with "the continual trampling of the 2nd Amendment in New York," they said.

..."

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...iant_ar15.html

Turns out it's the pistol grip that makes them so deadly.

Pete

No Wanna - be war toys for New Yorkers, they'll just have to get by with regular bang-bangs. Boo-hoo.

That's funny as hell!:D

Yeah it is :D

For the record, an illegal AR-15 in NY:

http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armsl...15_223_640.jpg

A legal one:

http://media.washtimes.com/media/ima...9c115df4b002f1

Thank goodness they can figure it all out.

Pete

If you want to carry an assault rifle, join the Army.

I call that a win, the new legal one is way cooler..... :D

Yeah, but right wingers need more than 10 rounds because they can't shoot for shit.

I thought they only used these things to hunt rabbits and shoot up tin cans and cars.... (and school children)

You know..."make BOOM"

I'd guess they purposely made it look as aggressive as possible, to make NY look silly.

My neighbor says the price on new AR-15s is dropping fast as supply catches up to demand.

Pete

So you saying this girl must be a Democrat? :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIF3pW_kTuo

The sick bitch who designed this should be left alone in a room with the first victim's family at the hands of his design.

Human garbage and he doubtlessly thinks himself cleaver.

And what's really pathetic is that you think this is cool.

I presently don't have any 'long' firearms, just pistols, and it's never occurred to me that I should go out every so often to buy a new one. It's sort of bizarre that these things are commodities with their own economic dynamic that apparently demands frequent refreshment/turn-over.

Note to self; Don't give these dickheads my business.

The firearms industry has a problem in that their products, if taken care of in a reasonable manner, last indefinitely. In addition they don't become obsolete very fast either. For example, a 1911 Pistol, which is basically unchanged since John Browning first designed it over 100 years ago, is still more than adequate for self defense today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8coq2cUn1U


So I guess what they have to do is create some kind of artificial demand so that they can keep selling in volume.

Send me some of your pity too. ;)

I'd enjoy that kind of target shooting too. Looks much more fun than fixed paper targets.

Pete

As long as they don't shoot back huh Pete?

Like might have happened if you had served in the Military.

A supremely stupid comment, even for you with your continuous hard-on for Pete.

Very true. I have to agree, I've never had a target shoot back.

But fortunately for me, all I have to do is go to the gun show next weekend if I'd like a AR-15, and am free to kill as many defenseless paper targets as I like.

Pete

Thanks Finn. As a loudish opinionated rightie I'm becoming used to admirers :p

Pete

I disagree.

As a veteran myself with a son on the Army, all these wannabes that go around in their Cabellas Camos carrying their military style assault rifles when they never served give me a case of the ass.

But I forgive you Finn.

I like this one too. I grew up using a lever action so I'm still partial to them.

Kid with a small lever action rifle beats a man with an automatic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5PLnlRVqKQ

Seems like a waste of high-energy ammo but what else is there to do with it?
Precision air guns make more sense to me for punching paper, something like this bucket list jewel;
http://www.airguns.net/images_reviews/fwb300s.jpg
http://www.airguns.net/reviews_fwb300s.php

Fortunate for you.

For some people in Aurora Colorado, and Newtown Connecticut, not so much.

I've never shot a quality air rifle. I'd like to try though, I spent a lot of time in the old Ys' air rifle club growing up (thanks dad!).

I've got some gun folks as friends and relatives so been lucky enough to shoot some nice guns though. I prefer a bolt action 22 for target shooting, although the 1911 Tom mentioned is a wonderful machine.

Pete

They are fun to shoot, but with factory ammo getting close to 50 cents a pop it gets expensive. Of course for a rich Republican like you, that's no problem.

Heck my bro in law (the owner) refuses money for ammo at the range! I didn't know they were that much. It's the nicest most natural feeling pistol I've ever fired.

He's non political but does do very well for himself. Me, I'm stuck in the median range.

Pete

yeah
buy Black Rain AR-15s before Obama gets them taken off the market.
Same reason everyone is running to Walmart to buy ammo all the time.

John Browning was a genius when it came to firearm design.

Better than that damned commie Kalashnikoff.

Yeah Finn is ok for one of them there gubmint workers lol;)


us gubmint workers gotta stick together!

right Pete?

I'll take your word for it Tom :o I've never had a chance to fire the AK.

You government guys, taking all my tax money! :grr: ;)

Pete

If you like air rifles, check out the new Gamo line. Incredibly accurate.

More affordable than the FWB no-doubt. Also check Crosman and Daisy for accurate match air rifles that won't bust the budget, like the $300 entry level Daisy Avanti 853 match; http://www.airguns.net/reviews_daisy853.php

I don't understand spending the money on an AR. If I'm going to spend a grand plus on a firearm I want to at least be able to hunt with it. That one is also absolutely fugly.

Could they pass a law prohibiting weapon modifications?

Other than full-auto and muzzle noise suppressor mods I don't think so.
High capacity/rapid-fire tactical weaponry makes little sense for the general public but fixing that would require a really good time machine. We are stuck pretty much forever with sharing the sidewalk with some of the best-armed nut cases on the planet, thank you NRA.

You guys realize there is no-one locally that I can have civil discussions like this? That's what got me here, thank you all.

I don't remember exactly how much he paid for it, but my neighbor just got one and it was far, far less than a grand.

Pete

AR-15? Good luck finding cheap ammo to run thru it.