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I miss chatting with conservatives. I certainly used to be one, so i remember them well. Always seemed to have perhaps more pragmatic answers to questions then many on the left. Instead of conservatives of the Eisenhower bent, I seem to only run into angry Tea Party types, or libertarians masquerading as conservatives.

Where you guys hiding, conservatives of the old school. Come on by for a chat. I'll buy the first round.

One thing's for sure - they've been excommunicated from the GOP.

Guinness, or Keystone Light Ice? :p

Pete

I'll buy what they are drinking.

Ain't that the truth.

Pabst? ;)

Pete

As long as it ain't tea.

You're hardcore!:)

I wanted the Guinness! I was even willing to act like a 'reasonable' big government Republican :D But if I have to settle for Old Style staple some bags on my hat :eek:

Truman really did not Like Ike much.

Pete

I'm a conservative Democrat. :)

+1.........

If you're buying the drinks, I'll be whatever kind of conservative you want. :)

I don't think you could pass for a conservative... :P

At one time I considered myself a Republican. It didn't last long, maybe 3-4 years, and I still feel a little "dirty" from the experience. I think if someone called me "conservative" in todays context, I'd end up in jail.

Dave

You're such a whore. Geez.:rolleyes:

Dave

The word has been so over-used down here it's become just an annoying meaningless noise.

I'm a conservative communist in King Arthur's Court.

I support the left, tho' I'm leanin' to the right

Regards,

D-Ray

I used to be such, believe it or not. What you see now is sort of 'reactionary.' I gradually stopped being a conservative by degrees, as I found more and more 'conservatives' to be more and more pathetic, mean-spirited, and obnoxious.

I'm think that's because some of them have no idea what it really means. The younger ones and the not so sharp ones that is. All they know is that everyone else in their circle calls themselves this "conservative" thing and being a "libtard", whatever that is, appears to be really uncool.

"I hear the libtards spit on the troops. They SUCK!"

Of course the smarter ones hear shit like that and just let it go.:rolleyes:

Dave

I for one would truly like to know just what it is that the Republicants have conseved. Living here near Baghdad on the Potomac the roads are bad, the bridges are worse, our greatest single resource the people are in sorry shape and mostly broke. That is not what I call conserving.

This is a political forum and not a rose grower forum, so the term "conservative" is actually used here from time to time.

In Germany conservatives are assholes and democrats are assholes light. It's that easy.

Same here!

Both parties have been taken over by the monied class.

Barney

Same here.

Dave

So after an election when conservatives are replaced by democrats or vice versa we can say: the flies have changed, the pile of shit remains the same. No chance for voters to change something.

Or the other way 'round, the pile gets freshened from a different source and the flies return.

You buy the Guiness I will get the Keystone Light;)

I was once a member of the Capitol Hill Coffeehouse forum. For some years, actually.

It was, and still is (what's left of it) a bastion of conservative thought. And there were enough cons that it provided a full range of cons, from the George Will school of actual historians, to your typical teabag/Coulter types, although there weren't any teabaggers in those days. The latter members were pretty much 5 below radio gasbag mirror types. But as you were butting heads on the other end of the continuum (where there was actually some intellectual curiosity happening) it was fun, people were thinking, processing, and beating each other's brains out. A few of these people became pretty good friends at the time...as dead wrong as they were.

Sounds like a pretty good model tho' I often wonder which planet George Will returns to in the evening after work.

He creates his own reality and, while we're studying that, he creates a new reality which we can study too.

John

You have to give George some leeway as I believe senility is setting in. Two days after his column there are usually three letters to the editor correcting his errors.

So the rocket ship to Planet Will is chauffeured?

I have considered myself conservative for most of my life, and went from Republican to independent right after GHWB. Lately I am having conflicting thoughts on the terminology and reasoning behind it. I would like to see the government be smaller and more fiscally sound, but I can't see that it is ever going to happen. Republicans aren't conservative, they just want smaller government so it stays out of their way and less taxes so they can keep more of their wealth. That is the crux of Republican conservatism. The irony is that they are the ones forcing the government to get bigger. If greedy corporations would do the right thing and pay a living wage and a pension, or enough to actually let the employee contribute a generous amount to his own retirement plan, social security could be smaller. If medical wasn't so obscenely expensive, pharm so greedily overpriced, and insurance and hospitals so heavily laden with administration, insurance costs would probably fairly reasonable. If the corporations didn't have to spend so much lobbying the government, the government wouldn't have to spend all their resources dealing with corporations and could focus on running America. I guess I just see corporate America standing in the way of conservatism.

I used to know conservatives who would say things like "The worst enemy of capitalism is capitalists."

So you're a conservative with some soci@list ideals. :)

Actualy, I agree with you on a lot. I'm just not sure that unfettered capitalism could ever succeed; and in any event, the way the largest companies want to manipulate the economy is based on anything but true free-market principles.

Regards,

D-Ray

And, that is the rub, isn't it, Mark?

Dave

Been pretty much since a youth been a Social Democrat even before knowing what one was. At a pretty young age saw Capitalism being used as exploitation, plain and simple taking advantage of an other for your own gain. Basic give someone beads for their land sorta thing. Only now it has morphed light years from it's start.

Like the Wall Street Flash Boys, cheating simply put but accepted or rationalized as legal.

Barney

And, they were right. Let them have their way and be themselves for a while and no one will like them anymore. What does anybody think the last couple waves of resentment and labor unrest were all about? As I see it, it's like this; Capitalism may, arguably, be the best economic system at it's base, but like anything else it can be abused, taken to extremes. And the more "freedom" capitalists have to do as they please, sans any pushback, the more abuse there will be.

I don't get what is so fucking hard for some people to get about that.

"But, Dave. The market will take care of that!"

Oh, BS, it will not. Look at what we have, for crying out loud. All too often the "market" rewards bad behavior. For example, people at the top make MORE money when they outsource jobs and drive down employee compensation. That's the whole damn point. It's the ruthless bastards that end up with all the money.

Dave

Hear, Hear!!!!

Dave

This is what happens when you push back anymore...

http://www.businessinsider.com/ups-f...ployees-2014-4