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4-2-7 04-02-2014 06:37 PM

Fort Hood Shooting Once Again
 
Very early yet to know what went down.

Shooter dead looking for more just in case.

1 dead.

14 wounded

4-2-7 04-02-2014 06:54 PM

3 Dead now plus the shooter.

4-2-7 04-02-2014 08:30 PM

Yesterday or the day before this story broke on Fox New. It is in fact the man the FBI were looking for so they failed. Today we now have 4 dead and 14 injured in another terrorist attack as a result.

Ft. Hood Attack Copycat Suspect Said His Jihad Was Imminent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlMoDpujFp8

Rajoo 04-02-2014 09:07 PM

This message is hidden because 4-2-7 is on your eff off list.

4-2-7 04-02-2014 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 207155)
This message is hidden because 4-2-7 is on your eff off list.

Very very classy.

My god are you delusional.

BlueStreak 04-02-2014 09:19 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqetwcLLK0Q

4-2-7 04-02-2014 09:22 PM

Well sitting here waiting for the on sit news conference. I can't help but think it's taking so long because there trying to get a narrative together. Most likely a false narrative propagated by the Obama administration.

bobabode 04-02-2014 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 207159)

Ayup.;)

JBS... 04-03-2014 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 207141)
Yesterday or the day before this story broke on Fox New. It is in fact the man the FBI were looking for so they failed. Today we now have 4 dead and 14 injured in another terrorist attack as a result.

Ft. Hood Attack Copycat Suspect Said His Jihad Was Imminent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlMoDpujFp8

Look's like we learned nothing from the last 2 base shooting :confused:

At first I thought this was the act of that self-proclaimed jihadist out of Kansas City everyone was looking for a few weeks back.

The shootings doesn't appear to be related to terrorism or radicalism, he was being evaluated for post traumatic stress disorder.

JBS... 04-03-2014 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 207159)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 207163)
Ayup.;)

WTF, your actually using someone who is mentally ill for the butt of your joke :mad:

Tasteless :(

HarmanKardon 04-03-2014 07:08 AM

It is hard for me to understand that somebody can purchase a .45 like a pair of socks. It becomes unbelievable considering this somebody is mentally ill.

JBS... 04-03-2014 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 207196)
It is hard for me to understand that somebody can purchase a .45 like a pair of socks. It becomes unbelievable considering this somebody is mentally ill.

Not sure if he was diagnosed with anything at the time of purchase.

But I do agree, the back ground fails in the aspect of preventing the mentally ill from purchasing weapons as it should. The system is broke and needs to be fixed.

What I have issues with is expanding a broken system and pretending that it will make a deference.

BlueStreak 04-03-2014 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBS... (Post 207188)
WTF, your actually using someone who is mentally ill for the butt of your joke :mad:

Tasteless :(

Were not making fun of the man in the video. Moron.

Dave

merrylander 04-03-2014 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBS... (Post 207199)
Not sure if he was diagnosed with anything at the time of purchase.

But I do agree, the back ground fails in the aspect of preventing the mentally ill from purchasing weapons as it should. The system is broke and needs to be fixed.

What I have issues with is expanding a broken system and pretending that it will make a deference.

The problem is that Mad Uncle Wayne has convinced his followers in governments to see that the ATF does not get the funds needed to do the job. And of course with States Rights it is up to the individual states whether they updatethe database or not.

JBS... 04-03-2014 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 207206)
Were not making fun of the man in the video. Moron.

Dave

I know, but you are using him :rolleyes: Ass

BlueStreak 04-03-2014 07:39 AM

Even if he had been diagnosed at the time of purchase, it would have made no difference if he bought the weapon in the secondary market. Because the knuckle dragging idiots over in the pro-gun lobby won't let us expand background checks or tighten up the system.

Think we need to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people? Great, so do I. Now get the fuck out of our way.

Dave

Ike Bana 04-03-2014 07:46 AM

OK...we have a report, thanks so much to 5 below. What's your fucking point? Of course there's some anti-Obama point. Back in 1977 we found a hunk of metal can trim in our tomato sauce...fucking Obama.

Look...I spent 6 years in the Marine Corps. There were decent guys, marginal guys and assholes in the Marine Corps. Nothing's changed with our now "professional":rolleyes: military. All you have to do is check the numbers on rape, sexual harassment and domestic violence...and how it's all swept under the rug by commanders. There are mass shootings in the general public...there are mass shootings in the military, and every shooter has their sick reason for doing it. That's the end of it.

There's nothing political about it.

merrylander 04-03-2014 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 207212)
OK...we have a report, thanks so much to 5 below. What's your fucking point? Of course there's some anti-Obama point. Back in 1977 we found a hunk of metal can trim in our tomato sauce...fucking Obama.

Look...I spent 6 years in the Marine Corps. There were decent guys, marginal guys and assholes in the Marine Corps. Nothing's changed with our now "professional":rolleyes: military. All you have to do is check the numbers on rape, sexual harassment and domestic violence...and how it's all swept under the rug by commanders. There are mass shootings in the general public...there are mass shootings in the military, and every shooter has their sick reason for doing it. That's the end of it.

There's nothing political about it.

Yep, just lookup Jacksonville NC and note the number of women's shelters in the area, the teen pregnancy rate and just how many family/domestic violence councellors there are in town whose population is less than 80,000.

Or ask my wife her first husband was an ex-marine officer.

Pio1980 04-03-2014 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 207162)
Well sitting here waiting for the on sit news conference. I can't help but think it's taking so long because there trying to get a narrative together. Most likely a false narrative propagated by the Obama administration.

This posting is quite unworthy of this situation and you.

Pio1980 04-03-2014 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 207196)
It is hard for me to understand that somebody can purchase a .45 like a pair of socks. It becomes unbelievable considering this somebody is mentally ill.

Firearms are a marginally regulated commodity with an out-of proportion aura of politically volatile baggage in the USA, as illogical as that may sound to someone living in a culturally advanced country. OTOH, what happened in Denmark with Anders Brevik illustrates the hazard vs practical considerations of regulation.
I've been around them my entire life, they are useful tools as vermin control, farm and ranch stock defense, sport and survival hunting, target/pleasure activities, and if needed, personal and household defense weaponry. The mystical aura they have in some small but politically powerful groups here totally escapes me and I refuse to be associated with that.

4-2-7 04-03-2014 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 207220)
This posting is quite unworthy of this situation and you.

Im not sure of any information we get now a days. When you get lied to repeatedly you tend not to believe anything at face value.:confused:

Not at all the way I want to feel.

Ike Bana 04-03-2014 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 207225)
Im not sure of any information we get now a days. When you get lied to repeatedly you tend not to believe anything at face value.:confused:

Not at all the way I want to feel.

Oh c'mon. You love it. I suspect there's nothing more orgazmic for you than to wake up in the morning and find that some poor innocent victims have been slaughtered, and you can use their arbitrary murders as a convenient excuse to take a dump on Barack Obama.

It's kinda 5 below's personal P-C version of, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning."

Pio1980 04-03-2014 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 207225)
Im not sure of any information we get now a days. When you get lied to repeatedly you tend not to believe anything at face value.:confused:

Not at all the way I want to feel.

I'm still sorry to say I'm disappointed with the tenor of your posting.

Otherwise I share your skepticism with media.
I feel the same about Fox editorial staff and the AM radio talkers as well, it's all like a circular echo chamber of obvious agendas and talking points that renders them not credible at all. I like to use the 'net as a check on anything from any source incl the regular outlets if it doesn't seem right or agenda-driven.
I have both Fox and Huffpo on my smartphone to check what the polar opposite advocates think important, NPR too but they have a broad enuff listenership to keep them under account for bias and inaccuracies and I see them as still comparatively reliable.

4-2-7 04-03-2014 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 207226)
Oh c'mon. You love it. I suspect there's nothing more orgazmic for you than to wake up in the morning and find that some poor innocent victims have been slaughtered, and you can use their arbitrary murders as a convenient excuse to take a dump on Barack Obama.

It's kinda 5 below's personal P-C version of, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning."

Ok Icky Banana, not that I'm good at punctuation but lets try fixing your post.

Oh come on, you love it. I suspect there's nothing more orgazmic for you than to wake up in the morning, finding that some poor innocent victims have been slaughtered. You can use their arbitrary murders as a convenient excuse to take a dump on Barack Obama.

You use far to many "AND'S" in your post and not enough periods.

You always sound winded like the girl in the movie American Pie.

And this one time at Bandcamp.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=MH619vxtNdo

JBS... 04-03-2014 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 207227)
I'm still sorry to say I'm disappointed with the tenor of your posting.

Otherwise I share your skepticism with media.
I feel the same about Fox editorial staff and the AM radio talkers as well, it's all like a circular echo chamber of obvious agendas and talking points that renders them not credible at all. I like to use the 'net as a check on anything from any source incl the regular outlets if it doesn't seem right or agenda-driven.
I have both Fox and Huffpo on my smartphone to check what the polar opposite advocates think important, NPR too but they have a broad enuff listenership to keep them under account for bias and inaccuracies and I see them as still comparatively reliable.

+1

I don't know if you were just trying to provoke a response or what. But it is kinda of over the top bro ;)

Boreas 04-03-2014 09:18 AM

The shooter was active duty military and a Iraq/Afghanistan vet. He had been diagnosed with, and was being evaluated for, PTSD. His name was Ivan Lopez. After the shootings, he was confronted by MPs and took his own life. He left a wife and child.

Just a few more victims of Bush's oil wars.

It's about time that people stopped trying to blame Obama for everything wrong in the world.

John

4-2-7 04-03-2014 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 207227)
I'm still sorry to say I'm disappointed with the tenor of your posting.

Otherwise I share your skepticism with media.
I feel the same about Fox editorial staff and the AM radio talkers as well, it's all like a circular echo chamber of obvious agendas and talking points that renders them not credible at all. I like to use the 'net as a check on anything from any source incl the regular outlets if it doesn't seem right or agenda-driven.
I have both Fox and Huffpo on my smartphone to check what the polar opposite advocates think important, NPR too but they have a broad enuff listenership to keep them under account for bias and inaccuracies and I see them as still comparatively reliable.

I agree none of the media is truthful and I cross reference as well.

The talking points from the source is why I mention what I did in that comment.
Case in point, Michael Morell.

JBS... 04-03-2014 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 207235)
The shooter was active duty military and a Iraq/Afghanistan vet. He had been diagnosed with, and was being evaluated for, PTSD. His name was Ivan Lopez. After the shootings, he was confronted by MPs and took his own life. He left a wife and child.

Just a few more victims of Bush's oil wars.

It's about time that people stopped trying to blame Obama for everything wrong in the world.


John


LMAO, this is some funny shit john :D

4-2-7 04-03-2014 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 207235)
The shooter was active duty military and a Iraq/Afghanistan vet. He had been diagnosed with, and was being evaluated for, PTSD. His name was Ivan Lopez. After the shootings, he was confronted by MPs and took his own life. He left a wife and child.

Just a few more victims of Bush's oil wars.

It's about time that people stopped trying to blame Obama for everything wrong in the world.

John

The only two blaming Obama or mentioning his name in this thread is Icky Banana and yourself.

Are you two 'Front Running' for the administration?

Boreas 04-03-2014 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBS... (Post 207238)
LMAO, this is some funny shit john :D

Can you help me out here? I'm usually not unintentionally funny. Where's the joke?

John

donquixote99 04-03-2014 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 207241)
Can you help me out here? I'm usually not unintentionally funny. Where's the joke?

John

There is no joke. It's just a trollish attempt to discredit through ridicule. Stuff like this is why JBS is 1/2 the population of my ignore list.

4-2-7 04-03-2014 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 207244)
There is no joke. It's just a trollish attempt to discredit through ridicule. Stuff like this is why JBS is 1/2 the population of my ignore list.

Precisely why your ignorant to anything factual. You cant pick and chose what you want to fit your ideology and be factual at the same time.

donquixote99 04-03-2014 09:55 AM

I need to subject myself to carping, trollish lies to be factual?

piece-itpete 04-03-2014 09:56 AM

Obama has had years to pull out of Afghanistan.

Pete

merrylander 04-03-2014 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 207244)
There is no joke. It's just a trollish attempt to discredit through ridicule. Stuff like this is why JBS is 1/2 the population of my ignore list.

I have left him off mine just for comic relief. Are we to assume he has become a Democrat now that he is blue in the face.:)

Pio1980 04-03-2014 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 207253)
Obama has had years to pull out of Afghanistan.

Pete

So who's insisting we must stay then, is this another follow-the-money puzzle?

bobabode 04-03-2014 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 207253)
Obama has had years to pull out of Afghanistan.

Pete

Last I heard the shooter did a tour in Iraq not Afghanistan Pete. That's what the commanding general of Ft. Hood said last night. Is there new news about that?

Pio1980 04-03-2014 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980;
I'm still sorry to say I'm disappointed with the tenor of your posting.

Otherwise I share your skepticism with media.
I feel the same about Fox editorial staff and the AM radio talkers as well, it's all like a circular echo chamber of obvious agendas and talking points that renders them not credible at all. I like to use the 'net as a check on anything from any source incl the regular outlets if it doesn't seem right or agenda-driven.
I have both Fox and Huffpo on my smartphone to check what the polar opposite advocates think important, NPR too but they have a broad enuff listenership to keep them under account for bias and inaccuracies and I see them as still comparatively reliable.
Quote:

Originally Posted by JBS... (Post 207234)
+1
I don't know if you were just trying to provoke a response or what. But it is kinda of over the top bro ;)

Not a provocation at all, just a civil conversation between two equals of differing opinions on some subjects.
Otherwise this 'squirrel' diversion to politicize this tragedy to discredit the present admin was disappointing to me. Trying to link it somehow to the NRA to discredit them would be equally disappointing for the same reason.

Boreas 04-03-2014 10:12 AM

Moron!
 
“We need to harden our military bases so this can’t happen, and one possible way to do that is to allow our veterans and active duty military … to carry weapons,” said Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee.

4-2-7 04-03-2014 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 207258)
Not a provocation at all, just a civil conversation between two equals of differing opinions on some subjects.
Otherwise this 'squirrel' diversion to politicize this tragedy to discredit the present admin was disappointing to me.

Pio

Myself I was just posting a tragedy as it was happening. Then the trolls weighed in with nasty comments to discredit and disgrace this thread. Why because I posted it that's why.

You should ask them why they are trying to derail it with politics and agenda.


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