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bobabode 04-02-2014 01:13 PM

Welcome To The New Gilded Age
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...y.html?hpid=z1

“Today’s court decision in McCutcheon v. FEC is an important first step toward restoring the voice of candidates and party committees and a vindication for all those who support robust, transparent political discourse,” said Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National Committee, which brought the case with Shaun McCutcheon, an Alabama businessman.
But advocates for reducing the role of big donors in politics decried the ruling, saying it will further amplify the influence of the wealthy in campaigns. By striking the overall cap on how much individuals can give to federal candidates and parties, the decision opens the door to the creation of super-sized joint fundraising committees that could solicit checks for more than $3 million, they say.
“I was deeply disappointed, but it is what it is,” Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said shortly after the ruling was announced. “I predict again, there will be major scandals in campaign finance contributions that will cause reform.”
“There will be scandal,” he repeated. “There’s too much money washing around.” Wapo

Strangely, I find myself agreeing with 'Grumpy' McCain. :rolleyes:

Bigerik 04-02-2014 01:22 PM

Even a blind squirrel...9

bobabode 04-02-2014 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigerik (Post 207032)
Even a blind squirrel...9

Prince Riebus sounds happier that a pig in shyte.

icenine 04-02-2014 01:50 PM

Welcome To The New Gilded Age
 
Sadly not a bad title for an equally bad rock progressive album but reality as we know it:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...#axzz2xkxAgq5j

bobabode 04-02-2014 02:13 PM

Beat ya to it but I like your title better, we could merge the two threads? ;)

http://www.politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=7190

icenine 04-02-2014 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 207045)
Beat ya to it but I like your title better, we could merge the two threads? ;)

http://www.politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=7190

yes sorry about that did not see urs forgive me!

Hey Pete merge!

piece-itpete 04-02-2014 02:26 PM

Well I gone done it.

That'll be $50 :p

Pete

d-ray657 04-02-2014 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 207057)
Well I gone done it.

That'll be $50 :p

Pete

Hey, you trying to undercut my prices? :p

Regards,

D-Ray

icenine 04-02-2014 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 207057)
Well I gone done it.

That'll be $50 :p

Pete

The check is the anti-Frontrunner que Pete!;)

piece-itpete 04-02-2014 02:41 PM

LOL! And D, bwuuuuhahahahaha :D

Pete

bobabode 04-02-2014 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 207057)
Well I gone done it.

That'll be $50 :p

Pete

The checks in the mail and....:D

merrylander 04-02-2014 03:11 PM

So the Roberts court just stuck a big for sale sign in the middle of the country.

bobabode 04-02-2014 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 207071)
So the Roberts court just stuck a big for sale sign in the middle of the country.

That's my take on it.

Boreas 04-02-2014 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 207071)
So the Roberts court just stuck a big for sale sign in the middle of the country.

They did that a long time ago. They just raised the price.

We're proper fucked, mates! Time to chuck it in.

John

Oerets 04-02-2014 04:44 PM

First the court equates corporations to people so no small wounder they also see equality of voices of the electorate in a donation of $100 and 1,000,000.



Barney

Rajoo 04-02-2014 05:05 PM

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...nG9M6mfev9BpEp

piece-itpete 04-03-2014 10:17 AM

The Supreme Court giveth, the Supreme Court taketh away.

Pete

merrylander 04-03-2014 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 207268)
The Roberts Court giveth, the Roberts Court taketh away.

Pete

Fixd it for you nothing about that court is supreme. Actually it probably is the Koch Roberts court since Scalia and Thomas are buddy, buddy with the Brothers Koch.:p

bobabode 04-03-2014 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 207268)
The Supreme Court giveth, the Supreme Court taketh away.

Pete

I thought it was the 'Pubbies who abhorred legislating from the bench? (Except when it suits them. :rolleyes:)

piece-itpete 04-03-2014 10:40 AM

If they weren't our lord and masters they couldn't do it.

Pete

Pio1980 04-03-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 207277)
I thought it was the 'Pubbies who abhorred legislating from the bench? (Except when it suits them. :rolleyes:)

"Legislating from the bench" is just more Newspeak from the usual source.

d-ray657 04-03-2014 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 207294)
"Legislating from the bench" is just more Newspeak from the usual source.

Actually, it was a phrase that became popular to criticize the Warren Court, with it's landmark decisions on discrimination, the Fourth Amendment and other restrictions on law enforcement practices. The irony of course is the Warren was a former Republican Governor of California, and he was nominated by Republican President Eisenhower.

Regards,

D-Ray

Pio1980 04-03-2014 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 207312)
Actually, it was a phrase that became popular to criticize the Warren Court, with it's landmark decisions on discrimination, the Fourth Amendment and other restrictions on law enforcement practices. The irony of course is the Warren was a former Republican Governor of California, and he was nominated by Republican President Eisenhower.

Regards,

D-Ray

Right-o! Pretty much nonsense except as an expression of personal opinion against enforcing the BOR over popular nullification.

bobabode 04-03-2014 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 207294)
"Legislating from the bench" is just more Newspeak from the usual source.

Just letting my snark out before I bail to the High Sierra's, my friend. I have a suspicion that WiFi is going to be scarce up there in the Sequoias. :)

bobabode 04-03-2014 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 207312)
Actually, it was a phrase that became popular to criticize the Warren Court, with it's landmark decisions on discrimination, the Fourth Amendment and other restrictions on law enforcement practices. The irony of course is the Warren was a former Republican Governor of California, and he was nominated by Republican President Eisenhower.

Regards,

D-Ray

The last decent 'pubbie governor from the late great state of Californication.;) Of course, some around here think Guvnor Jerry is a chincy DINO.

bobabode 04-03-2014 12:06 PM

Hell John, where's the fun in deleting so many posts? ;)

JJIII 04-03-2014 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 207334)
Hell John, where's the fun in deleting so many posts? ;)

I was trying to put a picture up... and failing miserably!

It had to do with you being offline and Carrier Pigeons.:o

bobabode 04-03-2014 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJIII (Post 207385)
I was trying to put a picture up... and failing miserably!

It had to do with you being offline and Carrier Pigeons.:o

I'm always online waiting to pounce, buwahahahaaaaa!:cool:

Tom Joad 04-05-2014 01:41 PM

The Vicious Cycle of Concentrated Wealth and Political Power
 
People should be taking to the streets for some serious civil disobedience over this. But instead our Democracy has been sold to the highest bidder and no one seems to even notice.

Quote:

Almost limitless political donations coupled with America’s dramatically widening inequality create a vicious cycle in which the wealthy buy votes that lower their taxes, give them bailouts and subsidies, and deregulate their businesses – thereby making them even wealthier and capable of buying even more votes. Corruption breeds more corruption.
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Boreas 04-05-2014 04:55 PM

The problem is that we have 9 unelected "lords" sitting on the Supreme Court. They have the power to revise, repeal or make law as they, and they alone, see fit. These powers aren't granted to them in the Constitution. They're ones that they arrogated to themselves in Marbury v. Madison. They are totally unaccountable. They serve for life unless impeached, a thing we have never tried in the entire history of this misbegotten country. Do you really think they would give a shit if we took to the streets? I don't.

John

finnbow 04-05-2014 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 207869)
The problem is that we have 9 unelected "lords" sitting on the Supreme Court. They have the power to revise, repeal or make law as they, and they alone, see fit. These powers aren't granted to them in the Constitution. They're ones that they arrogated to themselves in Marbury v. Madison. They are totally unaccountable. They serve for life unless impeached, a thing we have never tried in the entire history of this misbegotten country. Do you really think they would give a shit if we took to the streets? I don't.

John


While true, I still trust the robed cabal more than I do the Executive or Legislative branch.

Tom Joad 04-05-2014 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 207869)
Do you really think they would give a shit if we took to the streets?

Maybe if they thought they might end up out in the street themselves, hanging upside down A-La-Mussolini, they would.

Boreas 04-05-2014 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 207877)
Maybe if they thought they might end up out in the street themselves, hanging upside down A-La-Mussolini, they would.

That kind of action would require the participation of thousands of people who were all willing to die..... because they would.

John

Boreas 04-05-2014 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 207871)
While true, I still trust the robed cabal more than I do the Executive or Legislative branch.

Collectively, I trust none of them but at least with the other two branches of government at least we have some chance of voting out the worst and electing someone better. With the Judicial Branch, we're stuck with the Scalias and the Robertses and Tbomases until they retire or croak.

John

icenine 04-05-2014 10:38 PM

;)hurray somebody saved my thread after Whelly stole it

icenine 04-05-2014 10:39 PM

oh that was the immigration thread about Obama and his real record...to quote Gilda Radner NEVERMIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDD!

merrylander 04-06-2014 06:16 AM

:rolleyes:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 207869)
The problem is that we have 9 unelected "lords" sitting on the Supreme Court. They have the power to revise, repeal or make law as they, and they alone, see fit. These powers aren't granted to them in the Constitution. They're ones that they arrogated to themselves in Marbury v. Madison. They are totally unaccountable. They serve for life unless impeached, a thing we have never tried in the entire history of this misbegotten country. Do you really think they would give a shit if we took to the streets? I don't.

John

It does not even take nine of them just the five right wing assholes. Imagine a nation of over 300 million being led around by the nose by five crooks

Isn't it rich?
Are we a pair?
Me here at last on the ground,
you in mid air
Send in the clowns
Don't bother they're here.

Boreas 04-06-2014 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 207924)
:rolleyes:

It does not even take nine of them just the five right wing assholes. Imagine a nation of over 300 million being led around by the nose by five crooks

I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that large, populous nations are ungovernable. The problem is that a world consisting of hundreds or thousands of small well-administered countries would need to form alliances, entities like the EU or the UN and these entities seem ineffectual at best and counter-productive at worst.

merrylander 04-06-2014 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 207939)
I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that large, populous nations are ungovernable. The problem is that a world consisting of hundreds or thousands of small well-administered countries would need to form alliances, entities like the EU or the UN and these entities seem ineffectual at best and counter-productive at worst.

In other words Lincoln made a big mistake and Polk was a thief. The south would be on its own and Mexico would still have had enough arable land to make it richer.:rolleyes:

And maybe the U.S. would be governable.

donquixote99 04-06-2014 04:39 PM

Is it too late to give Texas back to Mexico?


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