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Koch Brothers spending vs the Unions
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Pretty much expected. That doesn't concern me nearly as much as how spending from their Democrat supporting counterparts has diminished. Soros pretty much sat out the 2012 election (comparatively speaking).
Look...these guys fork over the cash because they hope to get something in return. Legislation and legal enforcement favorable to their business and personal financial interests mostly. Seems to me the political contributions of Koch's and Soros' of the world oughta reflect their belief in what they're going to reap from these expenditures. Doesn't appear that big Democrat supporters think they're getting much out of Obama lately. I know I don't think I'm getting much out of Obama lately. |
Soros is spending his money in Europe trying to install pro western governments in former soviet countries.
The unions cannot match Koch because they are in essence subscription driven organizations. Obama has fulfilled his job. That is oppose anti worker/union legislations and if necessary veto them. Promote worker friendly initiatives and information. However it is up to the worker to educate himself, to be able to discern dis and misinformation, to know where his butter lies so as not to vote against his own interest. :D |
This tri partite government y'all love so much has this one flaw we have witnessed these last few years. It is quite simply that a collection of nay sayers in either the House or Senate can grind everything to a halt and there is not a damn thing that POTUS can do about it. Conversly if he decides to veto anything he can be overidden with enough votes
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I'm hoping we can at least keep the wolves at bay until 2016. This years midterm should be interesting. |
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I still go with this this, They own the tar sands land in Canada. They want to send it to the gulf coast in Texas to refine and export it duty free, and oh by the way, they also own 40% of Valero and it's subsidies.
Dems don't really want to give this tax holiday away and the Goppers do. Carl Repost Quote:
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Wow are you kidding.
The boogie man and hidden money. It's widely documented that the Koch Brothers rank at around 58 on the list of donors. Out numbered by at least 10 Unions. This thread should be posted in Conspiracy Theories!!! |
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There still is a few countries that offer that for you if thats what you want. But this is America and no matter how hard people like you try you will not change us. |
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Well Dave that was an interesting response to your post. I do believe it just admitted to being 'panicked and paranoid', good work.
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And, if the unions are still so friggin' big, bad, scary and powerful why are their numbers dwindling so badly? |
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Athough your own Benjamin Franklin did suggest once that a despotic government might occur when Americans had become so corrupt as to require such, I think I have his words around here somewhere, ah yes here it is; "I these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution with all its faults, if there are such; because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of Government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered, and believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other." Benjamin Franklin Philadelphia 1787 I realize that your experience with the world is rather limited but there are many, many different forms of government between what you have here and a dictatorship should you care to investigate. As for attempting to change you I had only hoped to educate you a little but that task makes the Augean Stables look like a Sunday School picnic. Have a nice day.:) |
Limited is a apt description Merrylander.
Some people know they are not smart, but at least they realize it. Some of are dumb but do not realize it...those are the ones you have to watch out for, say when they are running for President. |
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Fist bump and a high five Dave. Well done my friend.:) Now, back to our regularly scheduled program... and -5 is back on my eff off list. :rolleyes: Good luck finding anyone to pay your fifty bucks for a Fleetwood Mac Rumours album that regularly sells for $35 on eBay, overpaid at Amoeba didja, or are you just trying to take advantage of trusting AudioKarma members? |
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The sucker is you...gullible to the end in your belief that the Koch brothers are somehow looking out for you and your fellow nitwit neocons, when the Koch brothers are not looking out for anybody but the Koch brothers. The Koch brothers would sit in their Maybach 62S and gleefully watch you starve to death. |
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Is it any wonder that Darryl Issa has such a big fat hard on for the IRS? The plutoc-rats have been using this giant loophole in the tax law governing 501c4 corps as a shield to hide how much influence a small group of ultra wealthy donors are exerting on elections in this country. Issa's mission is to forestall any reconsideration of the Republican reinterpretation of the law. As written 501c4 law states only social welfare is allowed by these organizations. In the 1950s there was a Republican administrative rewrite that allowed them to use 49% of the black money they receive to sway elections. As to these ultra wealthy top 1%? Of course they want something in return, after all they are businessmen first and foremost and it's all in the bottom line for these people. You can bet your last bottom dollar that they will be pulling the strings for as long as we allow it to continue. |
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ROFLMAO. This site needs more smilies. |
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Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014 Based on data released by the FEC on February 18, 2014. http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php |
-5..... It's probably a good thing the others have you on ignore.
I'm thinking your last link would give them reason to rip your logic to pieces. (Hint; it's usually not a good idea to post a link that supports a viewpoint you are opposing). |
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It's not opposing as the goal for me but the truth and balance. One can't point there fingers at others all the while supporting the same thing elsewhere. Cheers |
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Ever get tired of that whooshing sound over your head? |
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...roups/2607941/ http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/1...publican-slump |
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And how, exactly, is Americans for Responsible Solutions a "Democtatic Super-PAC"? John |
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You obviously like to think that money equals speech Mike. I guess that's the critical difference between you and me, I don't and I hate the fact that it was your rightwing activist boys on the Supreme Court who think that corporations are people. Nice try Mike but you can keep on pretending if you think that it is somehow a level playing field. Turn off the Glenn Beck Show, that shit won't fly around here. :rolleyes: Like a new members' sig line says, "I'll believe corporations are people, when Texas executes one". Pio1980. All 501c4 groups should adhere to the letter of the law as written and that means no politicking period, full stop. Your Uhmericans For Prosperity would be bankrupt in a week and I hope the DOJ enforces it under Obama. Why do you think that the snake Darryl Issa is shitting himself over the IRS? |
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"It's a stark reversal from the 2012 presidential and congressional elections when Republican groups dominated spending." http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...roups/2607941/ I did like the second one predicting a fratricidal bloodbath between the Goppers and the Cruz Crazies. Both stories were before the Paul/Cruz shutdown demolished the 'pubbies brand. Gawd damn weasels even turned the Chamberpot of Commerce against the 'baggers. Muy delicioso...:rolleyes: |
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And now, thanks to you, I have a pretty good resource to do what I do, which is to refrain from doing business with any company showing a red elephant in the list, and to consider strongly doing the same with any company with a "fence". Much obliged. |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4123208.html Regarding "Americans for Responsible Solutions": This message appears right on their web site home page: "Paid for by Americans for Responsible Solutions, a section 501(c)(4) issue advocacy organization, and Americans for Responsible Solutions PAC, a federal political committee. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee." |
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You, however, seem to be citing the historical edge that Repubs have had over Dems with campaign (non-PAC) fund raising (which is not in dispute), and conflating the PAC and direct campaign spending when doing so. I mean, I know that the left loves to bitch about Citizens United and all, but it certainly does seem like both parties love to feed at that particular trough. Maybe this page will help clarify: https://www.opensecrets.org/bigpictu...php?cycle=2012 |
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