Judge Says U.S. Must Help States Enforce Voter ID Laws
 

Right on! Hey Holder, wrap your racist head around this... http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/20/us...r-id-laws.html

Why are the Republicans trying to keep black and Latino voters from voting?

Why is your state going Blue?

Why did Jan Brewer accept Obamacare?


why?

So states could theoretically require passports for proof of citizenship when registering voters?
That is my take.

I thought Republicans were against big government overreach? Perhaps big government is ok when trying to block people of color from voting.

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"Show me your paperzzzzz!!!!!!"

I'm betting that this ruling will be overturned.

Me too.

John

Hopefully they will overturn the judge while they are at it.

It's racist to ask for ID?

Pete

The discriminator of what is permissible under civil rights laws isn't just overt acts of racism. It also includes actions that disproportionately impact a certain class of people, whether they intended to do so or not.

It's racist to have laws/rules that deliberately put a group of people at a distinct disadvantage to exercise their voting rights.

So because the argument is black folks don't have IDs (?) shouldn't they sue when they get turned down at the liquor store?

Pete

So, you need a voter ID to buy b ooze in Ohiya?

John

A State ID or Drivers' license. Many hood stores card EVERYONE no exceptions (the fines are so large). I've tried pointing to my grey hair to no avail.

Pete

I think you missed my point.

John

That there will be special IDs just for voting?

Pete

http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=+%2...a_7So6XmKH6QGD

'Except Florida in 2000' LMAO!

Pete

Methinks thou dost oversimplify...granted you're an artist at your chosen medium.

You know Pete it's the law to carry an ID in the state of California. Police can ask to see it at any time they like if you do not provide it they can bring you in to finger print you. To try to determine who you are, and able to hold you without charge for 48 hours.

So we know these people that want to try to equate this ID to vote as Nazi state is an ignorant attempt.

Those already exist. They're called voter registration cards. You get one when you register. When you register, you need to show proof of age and citizenship. After you're registered, your name is on the voter rolls, available to poll workers at your polling station. When you show up to vote, you're checked against the rolls.

What the Republicans want is to add an additional level of complexity, redundancy and cost to a process that's already working. The problem they claim to be addressing doesn't exist and they know it. They just want to make it harder for identifiable Democratic voters to vote.

John

Thank you :)

'I fear explanations explanatory of things explained.'

Pete

But, since you don't have to show a DL or the state-issued photo ID, at the polling place, I don't see what this has to do with the thread.

Also, it's not against the law to be without ID here. It's just that the police are authorized to determine who you are and, if you can't establish your ID, they have the option of detaining you for that purpose.

John

We even came through the border with our voter registration cards as identity some years back. Passports have expirred and I see no need to renew. Since a passport costs money needing one to vote is a poll tax, and that is against the law.

That's ludicrous, what class?

I don't know were the left live in their minds but as a US citizen we are all required to have ID. Without it we can get locked up or can't function day to day in society. The need for ID generally start in schools to driving to finances on and on.

If anyone is that far removed from US society not to have an ID. Then fuck em they don't need to vote on laws for the US.

It's a divisive issue.

Pete

Do you have a passport?

Making it expensive and difficult to get an id is just another poll tax Pete and you know it.

A resounding NO.

poll tax
if they figure out that most people of color have legit ids they will then want to make everyone have a passport...


I thought the Baggers were against big gov't but they sure want to drug test and poll tax everyone....

Thick as a plank.

Some older people do not have their birth certificates so this impacts their ability to get the "correct ID"... when going to polls

plus Scott Walker in Wisconsin began reducing the places to get an id....in Democratic districts


pull your head out of your....

Can anyone post a link that shows anyone convicted of voter fraud in the last 5 years?


that is any non-Republican guilty of voter fraud.....a legit case?

I'll do that one tonight after work. There was plenty of them with ACORN.

You see the Democrats want voter fraud and buy votes to help there cause.

An actual conviction of a non-Republican voter committing voter fraud.

I would think you would not want to see voter fraud regardless of party. I can provide convictions but hard fact as to which party they vote for is mostly privet to the general public.

True,

but I think there is one case in Florida of a Republican activist committing voting fraud.

I bet you cannot find 10 convicitons of legitmate voter fraud in the last 5 years.

No, no, no.

What happened with ACORN is that workers were paid per application so a number of them filled out bogus apps so they could collect the money. Then ACORN reviewed all the applications, flagged the ones they found suspicious and then sent them all in to the state for processing. Again, they flagged the ones that were suspicious when they sent them in. That's due diligence. They would have been in violation of the law if they had not sent the bogus apps in.

The voter fraud BS was fizzling out. It was going nowhere so the right wing dirty tricks squad (Breitbart) sent James O'Keefe and his girlfriend out to scam ACORN volunteers on the totally unrelated subject of running a prostitution business. The whole scam finally unraveled but not until after Congress yanked ACORN's funding.

Neither ACORN nor any ACORN employee was ever prosecuted for anything, far less convicted. The same can't be said of O'Keefe.

John

You win 13...
I was horribly wrong. I will save you time seaching on the web:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/wa...anted=all&_r=0

There you go again. It's way, way more than a divisive issue pete. So here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQKLUE3X0d4

As Heldman so effectively points out, it's the disenfranchisement of millions of voters for 1/1,000,000th of a percent of a problem. And I must admit I expect no less of right wingers that they would be fine with it being fine for millions of poor, elderly, and infirm Americans (who, obviously, are much more likely to vote for democrats) having even more difficulty getting into a voting booth so that 20 people in Wisconsin don't get away with polling place fraud.

The nitwit brings up Acorn...I'm surprised minus 5 hasn't brought up Acorn...and Heldman reminds him that there's a difference between polling place fraud and registration fraud. And finally..."Bill (you fucking idiot) it's not a problem." It's legislation equivalent to trying to prevent somebody from being hit by lightning.

Finally...Caroline Heldman makes me crazy. She's brilliant, she's gutsy, she's beautiful, she kicks cretinous right-win ass all over FAUXNEWS...ahhhhhhhhh.......gott-in-himmel!!!!

Millions of disenfranchised voters? Can you back that up?

Why don't we have low income state ID assistance in tandem.

Pete

Did you see urban voters in line for hours and hours waiting patiently to cast their vote for Obama? Its already happening and you haven't even gotten your way regarding ID.

Can I back it up? :rolleyes:

There's no need for low cost tax supported state ID support. IT'S NOT A FUCKING PROBLEM!!! Yes I'm fucking hollering.