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HarmanKardon 03-13-2014 03:42 AM

Email Account Encoding
 
I had to encode my "Windows Live Mail" account today due to the evil evil EVIL NSA! :rolleyes: Telekom demanded this but I think this is too naive. :eek: The NSA is almighty (any other opinions on that?) and I think they will always get anything what they want. :cool:

Google encodes it's web search - I cannot believe that such things are effective and put more than a smile on the face of the NSA.

merrylander 03-13-2014 06:37 AM

I am more concerned with sites like googl, facebook, et. al. keeping data on me than I am with NSA.

HarmanKardon 03-13-2014 07:47 AM

I'm losing more and more the track what's going on in this mad world.

CarlV 03-13-2014 03:49 PM

I have never configured any MS email in any of the computers I have ever owned. I still only access facebook with one computer that nothing that matters is on it. Is is a real pain that way and so I do not use facebook much but I sure am glad I do it that way.


Carl

Rajoo 03-13-2014 04:02 PM

As long as the good guys, bad guys and the mercenaries are all hacking each other, it will all even out at the end, I think (?). I no longer worry about these things as it's beyond anyone's control.

Wasillaguy 03-13-2014 04:53 PM

I've never done Facebook or LinkedIn or Twitter. Learned at a young age that nothing good comes from sharing personal information.
I got away with anonymity for a few years, but eventually the kids post your picture and tag it.

HarmanKardon 03-14-2014 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 201612)
As long as the good guys, bad guys and the mercenaries are all hacking each other, it will all even out at the end, I think (?). I no longer worry about these things as it's beyond anyone's control.

This is a remarkably relaxed attitude, I will try to make it my own. Thanks.

merrylander 03-14-2014 06:05 AM

I have a neat program that wipes out stuff the try and leave on our PCs and with the tools in IE I delete cookies, history, etc.

Zeke 03-15-2014 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pukka Sahib (Post 201984)
I would not be surprised if the federal courts rule that the interests of national security outweigh those of individual privacy.

Me, either.

Of course, watch the strict Constitutionalists' head spin when they realize what an actual STRICT reading implies...

You're correct, there is ZERO direct detailing of a right to privacy.

merrylander 03-15-2014 12:52 PM

The part that amuses me is the sheer hypocrisy of Zuckerman at facebook complaining when facebook collects more info on its users than NSA ever imagined.

Boreas 03-15-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 202079)
The part that amuses me is the sheer hypocrisy of Zuckerman at facebook complaining when facebook collects more info on its users than NSA ever imagined.

Zuckerberg doesn't like losing control of a revenue stream.

John

Rajoo 03-15-2014 02:35 PM

I do a Zaba search to get my brother's address. Fastest way to look it up.
If I Google my address, picture of our house show up.
When I joined this forum, some personal details about me were published here, info obtained from the web based on my campaign contributions.

What privacy?

HarmanKardon 03-16-2014 02:22 AM

Privacy is one of the American's greatest goods - please correct me if I am wrong - security is another one, so a willingness to compromise is unavoidable what depends on the NSA, the fact that not only the NSA killed our privacy is another thing we simply have to accept.

merrylander 03-16-2014 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 202205)
Privacy is one of the American's greatest goods - please correct me if I am wrong - security is another one, so a willingness to compromise is unavoidable what depends on the NSA, the fact that not only the NSA killed our privacy is another thing we simply have to accept.

What privacy? Everything that we do is on record somewhere. I get solicitations in the effing mail every day regarding things which no one else should knwo but they do. Chris everything a citizen here does that involves finances or government is recorded and any jackass who wants to has access to those records. Why else do you think that outfits like Peoplesmart exist and profit?

HarmanKardon 03-16-2014 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 202241)
What privacy? Everything that we do is on record somewhere. I get solicitations in the effing mail every day regarding things which no one else should knwo but they do. Chris everything a citizen here does that involves finances or government is recorded and any jackass who wants to has access to those records. Why else do you think that outfits like Peoplesmart exist and profit?

Okay.

One of my friends at AK likes to have a lively pm exchange with me. In the last two years we had an exchange of more than 100 Emails. Recently he told me that he would travel to his sister for a weekend or so. I replied to him and told him about this and that like always and finished this way: "Greetings to your sister. What's the name of your sister?" He answerd: "I don't think my sister would like giving her name out. I am sure you understand that."

No. Absolutely not. Hey - I just ask for her first name, nothing else. I was so confused. So I asked my very best friend Don who is familar with that AK member. He wrote to me: "Concerning his comment, you just have to trust his wish on not revealing his sister's name. For whatever reason he wanted to keep that private and I would respect it. For a lot people, keeping their privacy is a big thing until they get to know you and become friends."

So I am a stranger, still a stranger, after some 100 Emails with partly very intimate content on both sides?

You Americans are so mysterious.

merrylander 03-16-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 202271)
Okay.

One of my friends at AK likes to have a lively pm exchange with me. In the last two years we had an exchange of more than 100 Emails. Recently he told me that he would travel to his sister for a weekend or so. I replied to him and told him about this and that like always and finished this way: "Greetings to your sister. What's the name of your sister?" He answerd: "I don't think my sister would like giving her name out. I am sure you understand that."

No. Absolutely not. Hey - I just ask for her first name, nothing else. I was so confused. So I asked my very best friend Don who is familar with that AK member. He wrote to me: "Concerning his comment, you just have to trust his wish on not revealing his sister's name. For whatever reason he wanted to keep that private and I would respect it. For a lot people, keeping their privacy is a big thing until they get to know you and become friends."

So I am a stranger, still a stranger, after some 100 Emails with partly very intimate content on both sides?

You Americans are so mysterious.

Well I am not really an American in that sense, but emails on the internet are anything but private, he might have PM'ed her name.

mpholland 03-16-2014 09:58 AM

I believe the courts will probably decide that bulk collection of data is OK, but that some of the information held in that data may be subject to privacy. As with telephones, the number called, call duration, etc is not private, but the actual conversation is subject to privacy.

Boreas 03-16-2014 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 202271)
"Concerning his comment, you just have to trust his wish on not revealing his sister's name. For whatever reason he wanted to keep that private and I would respect it. For a lot people, keeping their privacy is a big thing until they get to know you and become friends."

So I am a stranger, still a stranger, after some 100 Emails with partly very intimate content on both sides?

You Americans are so mysterious.

Not mysterious. Inexplicable. ;)

HK, don't lose sight of the fact that what you've written here is the explanation of one person's decision by another person. It's probably unwise to put too much store in it, especially as regards that person's feelings toward you.

Another, perhaps more plausible explanation is that your AK friend felt it was unsafe not to tell you his sister's name but to post it on the internet and, thereby, tell "everyone". In light of recent disclosures, this is an understandable (if not entirely justified) concern.

John

merrylander 03-16-2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpholland (Post 202284)
I believe the courts will probably decide that bulk collection of data is OK, but that some of the information held in that data may be subject to privacy. As with telephones, the number called, call duration, etc is not private, but the actual conversation is subject to privacy.

If someone was forced to listen to me in conversation with some fucking voice answerig computer in what are usually futile attempts to actually reach a live human being they would quite possibly die laughing.:p

HarmanKardon 03-16-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 202289)
Not mysterious. Inexplicable. ;)

HK, don't lose sight of the fact that what you've written here is the explanation of one person's decision by another person. It's probably unwise to put too much store in it, especially as regards that person's feelings toward you.

Another, perhaps more plausible explanation is that your AK friend felt it was unsafe not to tell you his sister's name but to post it on the internet and, thereby, tell "everyone". In light of recent disclosures, this is an understandable (if not entirely justified) concern.

John

Thanks Sir. I am still learning on all levels, or perhaps better: in all realms of life.


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