Despicable despots and regimes
 

Strangely, and to our genuine collective credit, there was actually an adult and calm conversation about Nazis here. I find this topic interesting.

It was perhaps rightly mentioned that it was in the wrong thread. So, here's a place.

A fair warning, I've seen these discussions devolve into nightmares. Not as a mod but as the thread starter, if this thread goes by some bad reverse Godwins law type thing I'm deleting it and poxing anyone who does it ;)

Pete

How about, mass murder by race: Hitler, mass murder by class: Mao, mass murder at random: Stalin?

This got deleted off RTs' website btw, they got pissed that Stain was being badmouthed.

Pete

Unfortunately, we've supported our share of murderous despots throughout the (Cold War) years in the Mideast and throughout Central and South America.

Zzzzzzzzzz. Snore. :D You forgot Reagan, Pete.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS_bN5ECJTI&feature=kp

Really. I need to go to another thread and bash Samm across the head and shoulders a few more times.;)

Song and Reagan ref. added.

Checking out a Nature program, 'The River Shannon' right now. PocHat is just the background noise.;)

Hey, get your leftie selves outta here! :p

Though I've got to admit, I've never had Reagan put on par with Stalin. Might be a stretch.

Pete

Now who's ranking despots? Was that the original thrust of your thread?

In Nicaragua, Guatemala and El Salvador they might disagree with you Pete. Maybe Ollie North will drop by to enlighten us as to why Reagan had to promote those dirty wars in the '80s. Too bad Archbishop Romero isn't around to rebut Ollie.:(

Lol but your not a liberal.

Please do show murderous acts in the Middle East by the US.
But leave out Obamas droning of Americans.

The Cold War realpolitik? At the time Russia & China were supplying NK.

Pete

And perhaps we should go back before Reagan, see what the Dem Pres's did.

Pete

Killing all those Iraquis who had never done anything to us?

So this is a partisan thread about which party had a hand in killing more people? Like I said in my first post here. Zzzzzzzzzz, snore.

Next thing we will be hearing about the how the Dems fostered Khmer Rouge.:rolleyes:

That's not cricket Rob. They was talkin' about commies and soshulists...

Or how about killing black slaves in the USA. Yep the all mighty democrats.

I didn't say what you understood me to have said. As for the murderous despots we've supported there, how about the Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, Hosni Mubarek, Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq (Pakistan), and the House of Saud for starters?

They didn't? :p

Who brought up the Gipper there bub? ;)

It was actually a place to extend what I thought was the very good conversation between mostly DQ and ice about Hitler, but I didn't want to use Nazi or Hitler in the thread title.

Pete

But of course discuss away, might be good in its' own right, right? :o

Pete

But we were just told we are the murderous country for going into Iraq to kill Saddam. We can't have it both ways now can we?

Have at it, hoss. No offense but I'm due for my beauty nap and I would rather count sheeple. ;)

[enter beauty sleep joke here]

Good night, hope it works! :D

Pete

Are you ready to delete the thread now, Pete?

Nah, nobody's called each other Nazis yet :p The last thing I think any of us want is to become another screeching political site. They're a dime a dozen.

Pete

Btw, would you like me to move some of those posts here?

Pete

Not really. the thing actually had run it's course for the moment I think.

Of course, if you really want to discuss Nazis, say something about them. You could try claiming they were soc*alists, for example.

Or I'll argue with a red lefty who want's to claim they were Christians....

Lets say they were sochialist Christians :)

They did try to play both roles propaganda wise at least I think. And the Hitler take of the Lords Prayer shows a LOT.

"Adolf Hitler, you are our great Führer. Thy name makes the enemy tremble. Thy Third Reich comes, thy will alone is law upon the earth. Let us hear daily thy voice and order us by thy leadership, for we will obey to the end and even with our lives. We praise thee! Hail Hitler!"

"Führer, my Führer, give me by God. Protect and preserve my life for long. You saved Germany in time of need. I thank you for my daily bread. Be with me for a long time, do not leave me, Führer, my Führer, my faith, my light, Hail to my Führer!"

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar...j-timeline.htm

According to some books I've read Rohm really believed in the sochialist aspect. Of course he was in the way later...

Pete

Gawd damn, where's a pride of lions when you need 'em. ;)

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Howdy all.....;)

That sure is a big scar on this country list of evil.

Hey, Paul. Flooding out there in the Mojave?

Getting close...we've not had rain of any quantity since Nov......