Violence in Venezuela
 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/25/wo...ref=world&_r=0

One article I read alleges that the Obama administration is behind this.

Dave

And, of course, to FoxNews it's all about blaming Obama......as usual.:rolleyes:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...-war-doctrine/

Dave

Those @ssholes have never met a war they didn't like.

I don't blame Obama he just doesn't have the kind of integrity it takes for the job that needs to be done and stand against those who are really running the country.
He is no Kennedy.

"Richard Grenell is a Fox News Contributor and fellow with The Project To Restore Americahttp://global.fncstatic.com/static/v...ernal-link.png. He served as the spokesman for four U.S. Ambassadors to the U.N. including John Negroponte, John Danforth, John Bolton and Zalmay Khalilzad."

Considering the source, I'm not surprised.

A couple issues with the article I have, Obama did not campaign to end the war in Afghanny, and while 'no war' might be true in the strictest sense he has shown no problems with the JSOC kill list.

Pete

Hmmm, as I recall he ran on ending both wars and is finally delivering on those promises. I'm always amazed by the rightie's hyperventilating over Obama's use of killer robots in the sky to assassinate alQueda operatives. I thought that kind of stuff gave the warmonging neocons a big fat woodie? No? :rolleyes:

Must be because Obie accomplished what the neocons with trillions in treasure wasted couldn't? A watery grave in the Atlantic ocean for Osama bin Laden. :)

I can agree with that. I had hoped for someone more like FDR. And, at first Obama seemed to have some of that fire. Oh, well. Guess not. Maybe someday................:(

But, I'd still sooner vote for Satan himself than vote for that Plutocratic Pig Romney.
McCain was a consideration until he hitched his car to the crazy train.

Dave

Only when they do it. See when a Republican kills a couple hundred thousand people it's a glorious blessing from the Almighty himself. The last Democrat to kill so many people and get a nod from the right was Harry Truman. And even at that, I'm sure you could probably find some Limbaugh-esque loudmouth that'll claim a Republican would have done it better, somehow.:rolleyes:

Dave

Even my community organizer, liberal Methodist minister and Democrat activist Dad wouldn't speak ill of Ike back in the day. I guess serving in the Third army, 10th AD under Patton might've had something to do with that. ;)

Obama ran on EXPANDING the 'good' war. Comeon guys it wasn't that long ago ;)

If a GOPer had the unlimited kill list Obama runs JSOC on youall'd be having 9 heart attacks. Bombing in Cambodia was childs' play.

Pete

Anyhow Venezuela is in a predicament. The issue of violence in the country is
a sour point.

Once violence has reached a certain point in a society it is hard to dial it back
without resorting to draconian measures. Such countries in the hemisphere
like El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala are examples.

Then there is the flight of currency. If you import a lot goods you need US dollars. But because people are afraid of Soci@lism and violence whatever US dollars which come in is hoarded or sent out to safe haven.

Of course there is external agitation, from the US coming in especially from Colombia.

A new government will solve importation problem albeit via huge devaluation
but not the violence.

Looking at countries where oil industries are significant, one has to really admire Norway.
Norway gave so many of its people a stake in its oil bonanza without hassle.

Or was Norway just lucky that it was relatively free from external pressure.

I trust that y'all here recall that Lincoln was the last Republican to win a war.:p

You're resorting to bs false equivalence here Pete.

By all means, delete my 2nd sentence :o The first one is true.

Pete