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icenine 01-28-2014 03:33 PM

Do Not Feel Guilty About Buying Hondas
 
I am on my third one....

http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...#axzz2rjOUcgcR

They invested 2.8 Billion into our USA car industry.

And Ohio and Cali are the export hubs.

piece-itpete 01-29-2014 09:03 AM

As you might expect I completely disagree ;)

Pete

icenine 01-29-2014 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 191076)
As you might expect I completely disagree ;)

Pete

I do not think your friends in Marysville mind too much....:)

piece-itpete 01-29-2014 10:12 AM

My friends in Detroit might!

Pete

Tom Joad 01-29-2014 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 191087)
My friends in Detroit might!

Pete

You have friends in Detroit?

Is Walt Kowalski one of them? y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsXHVC8wM1M

piece-itpete 01-29-2014 12:12 PM

How did you know?

Pete

piece-itpete 01-29-2014 12:17 PM

GREAT movie btw.

Pete

Tom Joad 01-29-2014 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 191113)
How did you know?

Pete

Actually I like the character Walt Kowalski.

He reminds me of me.

:D

piece-itpete 01-29-2014 12:28 PM

Are you sure you're cantankerous enough? :p

Pete

Tom Joad 01-30-2014 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 191125)
Are you sure you're cantankerous enough? :p

Pete

I'm actually a pretty laid back, fun loving guy, except for when I am around right wingers, whom I bully mercilessly just because I can.

MrPots 01-30-2014 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 191125)
Are you sure you're cantankerous enough? :p

Pete

LOL....yup......

BlueStreak 01-30-2014 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 191269)
I'm actually a pretty laid back, fun loving guy, except for when I am around right wingers, whom I bully mercilessly just because I can.

Good man.

bobabode 01-30-2014 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 191269)
I'm actually a pretty laid back, fun loving guy, except for when I am around right wingers, whom I bully mercilessly just because I can.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 191283)
Good man.


+1. They make it so easy. ;)

Bigerik 01-31-2014 06:18 AM

So how many billions have they taken out of the US economy? How many jobs lost? How much lost tax revenue? That 2.8 is chump change. The automotive trade deficit with Japan was $42 Billion last year. So go back to feeling guilty.

JBS... 01-31-2014 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 191076)
As you might expect I completely disagree ;)

Pete

+1

But it is nice seeing Ice supporting the non union labor force :D

icenine 01-31-2014 09:33 AM

My Dad worked for Ford for 42 years. I have bought two brand new Fords in my lifetime.
Maybe I will buy another someday. With only 11 percent of the American workforce unionized it is hard to go around buying union-made products. I do not have time to waste.

I would posit that Canadian cars are mostly Japanese transplants...I know Honda assembles there too.

In this kind of economy America being an net exporter of anything is good news.

Oh yeah my UK assembled Honda CRV is will hit 265,000 on the way home tonight.

hurray for me!

icenine 01-31-2014 09:38 AM

http://www.jama.ca/industry/manufacturing/vehicle/


looks like Japan is helping Little Sister out too;)

piece-itpete 01-31-2014 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 191269)
I'm actually a pretty laid back, fun loving guy, except for when I am around right wingers, whom I bully mercilessly just because I can.

Me too, unless I'm around left wingers, who I poke with sticks just because I can.

Cheers!

Pete

JBS... 01-31-2014 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 191372)
My Dad worked for Ford for 42 years. I have bought two brand new Fords in my lifetime.
Maybe I will buy another someday. With only 11 percent of the American workforce unionized it is hard to go around buying union-made products. I do not have time to waste.

I would posit that Canadian cars are mostly Japanese transplants...I know Honda assembles there too.

In this kind of economy America being an net exporter of anything is good news.

Oh yeah my UK assembled Honda CRV is will hit 265,000 on the way home tonight.

hurray for me!

So what your saying is that you were born and raised on Ford money and you buy Honda's, good for you :rolleyes:

BTW, I was as well and so are my children...

icenine 01-31-2014 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBS... (Post 191393)
So what your saying is that you were born and raised on Ford money and you buy Honda's, good for you :rolleyes:

BTW, I was as well and so are my children...

Well how many Fords do I have to buy in my life to pay it back?

piece-itpete 01-31-2014 12:17 PM

At LEAST 300. ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...%28logo%29.png

Pete

JBS... 01-31-2014 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 191397)
Well how many Fords do I have to buy in my life to pay it back?

It's all good Ice.

I'm good with Liberals driving around in Non-Union labor foreign built cars, while bitching about outsourcing, the preservation of Unions and preaching about having to save US auto makers.

So your good

icenine 01-31-2014 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBS... (Post 191429)
It's all good Ice.

I'm good with Liberals driving around in Non-Union labor foreign built cars, while bitching about outsourcing, the preservation of Unions and preaching about having to save US auto makers.

So your good

are you sure I am a liberal?

if I mention aircraft carriers some people get upset


you're just upset your car is not going to reach 264,000 miles today;)

icenine 01-31-2014 01:43 PM

Besides perhaps that factory in the UK was union?

Plus I bought it used so the money went to an American used car dealer and the interest on the loan went to Navy Federal and then USAA......

looks like I am a good American after all......

if you are looking for the Other JBS look in the mirror lol;):)

icenine 01-31-2014 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 191413)

you see the bad thing about buying a new Ford is the guy in financing who tries to (and succeeds with the unknowing, i.e. me in 1989) to add on the bullshit AFTER you have agreed with the dealer on the price. They all have mustaches too. 300 revolutions through that? no way lol


Pete a used Honda on a car lot with less than 60,000 miles on it at about half the price of new one is no brainer. The Honda warranty is only like 3 years, 60,000 if you buy new.

icenine 01-31-2014 01:55 PM

actually the Swindon UK Honda plant is union....

so I guess the original owner of the CRV helped a union even if it was across the pond.

piece-itpete 01-31-2014 01:57 PM

As much as I admire their founder, no Hondas for Pete.

http://www.teenhype.org/wp/wp-conten...d-property.jpg

Pete

piece-itpete 01-31-2014 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 191438)
actually the Swindon UK Honda plant is union....

so I guess the original owner of the CRV helped a union even if it was across the pond.

Well it's something at least.

Pete

icenine 01-31-2014 02:01 PM

Yeah I kinda think I should get a new Ford next time...I will grow a mustache for the occasion. But if it is one of those Korean built gas sippers will that count?

I think the Fiesta may be an offshore transplant....

piece-itpete 01-31-2014 02:03 PM

At least the profits stay here.

Get an ecoboost Taurus :D

As a bonus, it's environmentally friendly. It must be, it's got 'eco' in it's name.

Pete

piece-itpete 01-31-2014 02:07 PM

Hey, I don't have a moustache! A fedora, dark framed glasses, big cigar and tweed jacket, yes.

This requires a 'stash:

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODk5WDE2MD...S4FkM/$_57.JPG


Pete

icenine 01-31-2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 191442)
At least the profits stay here.

Get an ecoboost Taurus :D

As a bonus, it's environmentally friendly. It must be, it's got 'eco' in it's name.

Pete

is there any difference between a rich person in Japan investing billions here and GM selling more cars in their Chinese factories than here at home? In other words the plutocrats are borderless.



Watch out for the white Econoline van....the vehicle of choice for serial killers:eek:

piece-itpete 01-31-2014 02:11 PM

Yep! Matters.

White van? You sure they're not just trying to sell you speakers? :)

Pete

Wasillaguy 02-01-2014 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 191445)
Yep! Matters.

White van? You sure they're not just trying to sell you speakers? :)

Pete

It's a fine line between the two occupations.

bobabode 02-02-2014 12:41 AM

I guess my last '97 F250 5.8l with 277,000 miles on it when I sold it doesn't count? :rolleyes:

BlueStreak 02-02-2014 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 191439)
As much as I admire their founder, no Hondas for Pete.

http://www.teenhype.org/wp/wp-conten...d-property.jpg

Pete

That's the old Packard Detroit plant. There's a few of those sitting empty around Warren, Ohio, as well, Pete. My mother worked in one of them back in the '50s. My Aunt Norma retired in the early 1980s after nearly 40 years. Packard existed as a division of GM, before being "spun off" and renamed Delphi. AFAIK, all of the Warren plants are empty now.

Dave

BlueStreak 02-02-2014 01:45 AM

Just as a side note;

Dephi, the company formerly known as "Packard" is still a HUGE company with facilities scattered around the globe-----but only six left in the United States, in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana and New York. And all of the state side operations are technical/engineering or "customer technologies", (whatever that means).

It's all about globalization.

Dave

merrylander 02-02-2014 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 191444)
is there any difference between a rich person in Japan investing billions here and GM selling more cars in their Chinese factories than here at home? In other words the plutocrats are borderless.



Watch out for the white Econoline van....the vehicle of choice for serial killers:eek:

Yes there is if you want to sell a $32,000 Buick in Japan the tarriff is $$32,000 Florence lived and taught there for a number of years she know how it works.

piece-itpete 02-03-2014 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 191593)
That's the old Packard Detroit plant. There's a few of those sitting empty around Warren, Ohio, as well, Pete. My mother worked in one of them back in the '50s. My Aunt Norma retired in the early 1980s after nearly 40 years. Packard existed as a division of GM, before being "spun off" and renamed Delphi. AFAIK, all of the Warren plants are empty now.

Dave

Just FYI, they finally ripped the office building down at Twinsburg Stamping, the last bit of the old complex standing.

Pete

icenine 02-03-2014 11:10 AM

I think even if there was no import tariff on our cars the Japanese would still most likely buy their own autos. And the cost of living is so high there that I wonder if the cost of a domestic Japanese vehicle may be the same as the cost of an imported vehicle on their marker.


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