Obamacare Mandate May Be Delayed
 

The Administration may not have given in to Republican demands, but they may have to give in to their own non-functional reality. Amateur hour continues unabated in DC.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oba...me_latest_news

You're just having a grand old time with this aren't you? :p


Carl

Wooo Hoo, six weeks? Really? That's all it takes to get your juices flowing?:rolleyes:

Of course the mandate will be extended until the website is functional. Both parties are trying to save face after the recent shutdown debacle. Obama is reluctant to give up any points to the team he completely humiliated, but he'll have to.

I wish the GOP were equally critical of gross mismanagement in defense procurement as they are with HHS's IT procurement. Both suck, but the former wastes orders of magnitude more money.

Pretty prescient, eh?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...e6c_story.html

However, I gotta call BS on this excerpt:

Administration officials said the change is unrelated to the many problems thatthe marketplace’s Web site, HealthCare.gov, has had in its first three weeks. Instead, they said, the shift relates to what they called a “disconnect” among dates in new rules for buying coverage.

Maybe a six week delay...even so, it still isn't any death knell of the ACA as some hope. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...-deadline?lite=

It's not a death knell, but the delay won't be limited to six weeks, I promise you.

Seems like the attempts to "fix" the site are resulting in more issues. Lovely.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_1...-off-the-mark/

Sounds like you're ecstatic, Mike. Nice to see you and all your 'bagger buds cheering for the failure of insurance for the masses of people who rely on the emergency room for their healthcare. Real classy of you.:p

Pfft, Don't shoot! Let them burn. No delay unless its for at least a year.

hundreds of thousands, Millions, losing there health insurance and pushed into a system that don't work. :rolleyes:

Don't shoot? Let them burn? You're getting a little inchoherent, dude. Somebody slip something in your tea?

I'm trying to imagine what sort of mixed metaphors he's amusing himself with, but my imaginer isn't up to the task, it seems. This may be for the best.

Republicans are apoplectic about Healthcare.gov, the official Web site for the Affordable Care Act.

They are trying desperately to change the subject from their disastrous government shutdown by ranting about the failures of a government Web site that cost a tiny fraction of what was lost as a result of the shutdown.

Republicans are pretending that they care about the problems encountered in signing up for a system that many of them are bent on destroying.

They are demanding an immediate fix to something they want to break.

They are trying to deflect public outrage away from their record-low approval ratings.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/24/op...f=opinion&_r=0

A well written piece, Finn. Apoplectic beyond all reason seems to be the order of the day.

We have one side trying to fix a problem with nothing constructive coming from the other. If this were an issue effecting, involving a Right plans roll out you betya conspiracy theories would abound!



Barney

According to a couple of experts interviewed on the newshour last evening the ACA site was required to interact with 30 different State sites. Not all of these 30 sites were implemented in the same manner.

Given my thirty years working with computers I had no sooner remarked to Florence that the GOP was looking at the Mythical Man Month when the expert from Texas made the same comment. The MMM refers to the silly idea that if you put nine men on the job a woman can have a baby in one month.

It would appear given the size of the task the wonder is not that it does not work but that it even functions at all. Another shining example of States Rights. Given that Single Payer is a cooperative effort between Ottawa and the ten provinces I now realize that it would never work here. The mere thought that Washington and the 50 states could work together is laughable.

Spot on Merry...

Another silly idea or MMM is “tech surge” :cool:

Don't throw them a life line… I say let them stand by their law as implemented and face the voters and pay for their actions. No delays to give them cover from what they shoved down the people throats against their will.

It is now fact that hundreds of thousands, Millions, are losing the health coverage they had and are being pushed into a system that doesn't work and cost more. The Dems are bleeding votes and we should offer no Band-Aids.

Heard on NPR yesterday that the overall authority regarding the website was directly the government, that no single contractor had overall supervision of it.

Pete

Regardless if it was required to interact with thirty State systems, based on God alone knows what software that it even stay up is a niracle.

All this bitching about the government is pointless. Imagine trying to run a business where middle management is arbitrarily changed after elections and none of the new managers are required to demonstrate ability or any other qualifications. The system guarantees that nothing will work well, and the poor soids at the bottom get all the blame.

But as long as Mickey Dees can point at government workers and con you into crying "They get paid too much" you will drink the kool aid. Then Mickey got caught by making a phone call to its employees telling them they qualify for food stamps and other governmen aid. I guess Wally World will be next.

This country's days are numbered.:rolleyes:

I don't mind paying my governments' employees a living wage but isn't there a line somewhere? Btw, I don't expect McDonalds to pay it. If I was looking for a job I wouldn't say, hey, I bet I can make a bundle at McDonalds lol.

And yes, when the gov't screws up I'll complain. Particularly the opposition :p

Pete

I think the concern over deadlines is a non-issue.....health care is health care. If people have gone years with no coverage a short delay in Obamacare will not make a big difference.

And if Red States had done as good a job as Kentucky instead of screwing over there own citizens we would be doing much better.


JBS is that Jimmy McCulloch in you avatar?

I see even you dropped the Mad Hatter after the shut down debacle lol

Wonder who the GOP grand strategist is? Attacks on Obamacare (call it the message) did not succeed. Now the attack has turned to the messenger, HealthCare.gov website.

The website will be fixed. We have way too much talent in this country. Google is an example. So the GOP should be looking at flaws in Obamacare and try passing amendments rather than ranting and raving at it's implementation. This is a lose lose strategy.

They are:

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch...macare-mandate

Except right now you don't get your tax liability jacked if you don't have it, or if you have the "wrong plan". That's the difference.

view the O'Donnel link.

Just a tactic for delaying Obamacare. Even the Employer mandate delay by the administration is facing a lawsuit. This is just part of the GOP Defund/Delay/Destroy Obamacare agenda and not real reform.

Define "living wage" and the cost of living is not the same everywhere. No I would not imagine that Mickey pays great wages, but if their employees qualify for food stamps that sucks. No idea what their food costs as we never eat there.

Consider that wages have gone backward over the last ten years, at least for the non 1%ers.

It is Anna Briggs, but you were close there both Scottish :D

BTW, what shut down debacle?

Same old, same old. Delay, discourage and hope the Repugs keep the House & gain the Senate in '14. :rolleyes: A pipedream in light of the shut down debacle foisted on the country by the Repugs in the House. ;)

In our county, a while back, the sheriffs were unsuccessfully negotiating for a raise when someone realized that at the rate of pay they were receiving, they qualified for food stamps. The sheriffs came to sign up for food stamps all together and invited the press..... They got their raise.

The one that cost the U.S. economy $24 billion and added $100 million to the deficit in higher interest costs. Never fear, Obama will make it up for you, the deficit has been in free fall under his stewardship.;)

Taking credit for the sequestration? ;)

Pete

Nah, I'll leave that one where it belongs, the tea drenched caucus. Just ask Bachmann:D

Yup sequestration, tax hikes and winding down overseas operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Oh that, oppps I already forgot. I wonder how many stand around the water cooler talking about that ;)

Every Repub who is now an Independent?:rolleyes:
Have you seen any of the polls or don't they report them over at Faux and Friends?;) Your Tea party is now less popular than 'roids and the Repubs are polling lower than any party has ever polled since Gallup started tracking.:)

Now back on topic:

Here come a collection of Dem Senators demanding a delay for enrollment deadlines. They're right, of course. With all the issues, it just makes sense.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ent-extension/

DINOs? :D

Pete

Who cares? It's already been delayed six weeks and the wunderkind from the Silicon Valley says the site will be fixed in November.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, remember Medicare Part D's roll out, Mike?:rolleyes: All this righty hyperventilating over the ACA stinks like week old mackerel, left in the sun.:p