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bobabode 10-05-2013 02:21 PM

California Governor Signs Immigration Legislation
 
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...0,585883.story

Sounds good to me for a start.

CarlV 10-05-2013 02:28 PM

I'm not sure what all that bill is about. The special non-citizen driver's licenses are great because now they have absolutely no reason not to take the driving test and pay PL/PD insurance.

Carl

HatchetJack 10-05-2013 02:47 PM

Lets give them free tacos and discounted health insurance. Send the bill to Whell.

icenine 10-05-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HatchetJack (Post 174846)
Lets give them free tacos and discounted health insurance. Send the bill to Whell.

I do not see any Latinos sabotaging America in Congress (there may be one from Iowa I saw him on Meet The Press last weekend)...I see a bunch of white guys doing it however. I am all for people wanting to come here....at least they like the United States. :)

CarlV 10-05-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HatchetJack (Post 174846)
Lets give them free tacos and discounted health insurance. Send the bill to Whell.

So bring our soldiers home and stick them on the borders, won't have to cost anybody anything more than what we pay now, meanwhile.....


Carl

merrylander 10-05-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 174850)
I do not see any Latinos sabotaging America in Congress (there may be one from Iowa I saw him on Meet The Press last weekend)...I see a bunch of white guys doing it however. I am all for people wanting to come here....at least they like the United States. :)

Rubio Cruz and Lee - the three mouseketeers

finnbow 10-05-2013 02:59 PM

The exact intent of this new law is not fully clear to me. Is it something other than currying favor with Hispanics or does it have any other purpose?

icenine 10-05-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlV (Post 174853)
So bring our soldiers home and stick them on the borders, won't have to cost anybody anything more than what we pay now, meanwhile.....


Carl

be careful about supporting the Border Industrial Complex......
I bet businesses would like all of the extra customers that would be at the borders....the Starbucks here in town gets many of the Border Patrol guys and gals from the station located in our city.

CarlV 10-05-2013 03:03 PM

Offhand I would say it has a lot to do with reducing our overcrowded prison population and not wanting to be forced by the Feds to release felons into neighborhoods.


Carl

icenine 10-05-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 174859)
The exact intent of this new law is not fully clear to me. Is it something other than currying favor with Hispanics or does it have any other purpose?

Drivers licenses= more people on the road with insurance.
The other part is not turning over immigrants to the Feds if they are arrested for minor crimes....sort of the reverse of the Arizona law.

Brown is doing a kick ass job.

finnbow 10-05-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 174864)
The other part is not turning over immigrants to the Feds if they are arrested for minor crimes....sort of the reverse of the Arizona law.

Brown is doing a kick ass job.

I guess I don't understand why it's a problem to turn over minor alien criminals to the Fed for immigration enforcement, should the Feds be interested in undertaking deportation proceedings. Am I missing something?

While I don't agree with hassling Hispanics in any way (like Arpaio in AZ, for example), I don't understand why, when an illegal alien interacts with the criminal justice system and has his illegal immigration status confirmed, his case shouldn't be adjudicated.

icenine 10-05-2013 03:26 PM

I do not think the police want to be hassled with transporting every encounter with a possible undocumented alien to the Feds. They have other fish to fry.

finnbow 10-05-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 174870)
I do not think the police want to be hassled with transporting every encounter with a possible undocumented alien to the Feds. They have other fish to fry.

Come to think of it, I doubt the Feds want to deal with anyone other than serious criminals anyway. Both state and Federal systems are clogged as it is.

bobabode 10-05-2013 03:49 PM

I forget the new name but Wackenhut private prisons are heavily involved with INS for incarceration of illegals.

icenine 10-05-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 174874)
Come to think of it, I doubt the Feds want to deal with anyone other than serious criminals anyway. Both state and Federal systems are clogged as it is.

California is not nearly as conscious or upset about illegal immigration as it was 20 years ago. The Pete Wilson era is long gone, and Arizona is basically going to be blue in a few years because of Anne Brewer imitating Pete Wilson.

Even if you make three figures out here life is expensive. Most of us wonder how the undocumented are even able to survive. I am not angry on the issue.
It is not going to go away anytime soon. Besides the population here in Socal is mostly Latino (to my eyes anyway.....it seems that way to me when I go out)...no point in alienating a significant voter population.

barbara 10-06-2013 09:39 AM

It's harvest time where I live. No one complains about immigrants, legal or illegal, during harvest time.

Dondilion 10-06-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 174957)
It's harvest time where I live. No one complains about immigrants, legal or illegal, during harvest time.

So you just open the country to anyone who can cross the border.

Castro was real smart: He put his criminals and social rejects on the
boats from Mariel to Miami.

icenine 10-06-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 174974)
So you just open the country to anyone who can cross the border.

Castro was real smart: He put his criminals and social rejects on the
boats from Mariel to Miami.


Actually the border is not open here. It is difficult to get across. I have never been to New York City so I tend not to talk about it since I do not know what it is like there.


Latinos are everyone's friends and co-workers here. We do want an open border but on the other hand we do not want our state government to profile legal citizen's either.

barbara 10-06-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 174974)
So you just open the country to anyone who can cross the border.

Castro was real smart: He put his criminals and social rejects on the
boats from Mariel to Miami.

Guess my sarcasm is too subtle.
😐

bobabode 10-06-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 175011)
Guess my sarcasm is too subtle.
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Naw, I got it but then when Patty and I recently drove through Kevin McCarthy's district up your way, we were amazed at the crazy signs posted up and down Hwy. 99 by the 'Baggers.


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