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Charles 09-22-2013 08:36 AM

Party of the rich?
 
Enjoy,

Chas

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/...democrats.html

BlueStreak 09-22-2013 08:38 AM

So what?

Dave

BlueStreak 09-22-2013 08:42 AM

They know how to make money? I thought that was a good thing? I thought all Democrats were welfare check cashing bums?

merrylander 09-22-2013 09:58 AM

The article's premise is totally false, POTUS has little to do with income distribution, Congress sure does though. Yet under Clinton the maximum tax rate was about double what it is today. We had a surplus and a middle class, those were the days.

whell 09-22-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 172765)
The article's premise is totally false, POTUS has little to do with income distribution, Congress sure does though. Yet under Clinton the maximum tax rate was about double what it is today. We had a surplus and a middle class, those were the days.

...and we had a Republican congress during the period that Clinton had the surplus. So I guess Congress does matter.

CarlV 09-22-2013 11:19 AM

Republicans:







Democrats:







Carl :p

merrylander 09-22-2013 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 172766)
...and we had a Republican congress during the period that Clinton had the surplus. So I guess Congress does matter.

But no tea party, and the people in Congress back then actually governed. But then Clinton is white.:p

ZeroJunk 09-22-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 172765)
The article's premise is totally false, POTUS has little to do with income distribution, Congress sure does though. Yet under Clinton the maximum tax rate was about double what it is today. We had a surplus and a middle class, those were the days.

LOL. Unless Bush was president.

ZeroJunk 09-22-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 172788)
But no tea party, and the people in Congress back then actually governed. But then Clinton is white.:p

Clinton had experience.

icenine 09-22-2013 02:42 PM

Clinton did not have a bunch of anti-Americans in the Republican Party like they do today.

icenine 09-22-2013 02:45 PM

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/averages.php


this is a much better web page than what the OP linked us to.

merrylander 09-22-2013 03:10 PM

One would think that a member of Congress who is independently wealthy might be less susceptible to lobbyist $$$$$.

bobabode 09-22-2013 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 172796)
http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/averages.php


this is a much better web page than what the OP linked us to.

No shit. I haven't seen a website so constipated with adverts since I once did a search with Bing.

Uhmerican Thinker, my ass. :rolleyes:

ZeroJunk 09-22-2013 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 172801)
No shit. I haven't seen a website so constipated with adverts since I once did a search with Bing.

Uhmerican Thinker, my ass. :rolleyes:

Go back to the Huffington Post and watch MSNBC . Those are pinnacles of objective thought.

BlueStreak 09-22-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 172815)
Go back to the Huffington Post and watch MSNBC . Those are pinnacles of objective thought.

Surpassed in objectivity only by the likes of EIB and Fox?:rolleyes:

Dave


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bobabode 09-22-2013 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 172815)
Go back to the Huffington Post and watch MSNBC . Those are pinnacles of objective thought.

Maaaawwwm, the eunuch is bein' mean to me.:rolleyes:

bobabode 09-22-2013 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 172818)
Surpassed in objectivity only by the likes of EIB and Fox?:rolleyes:

Dave


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Probably reads on StormFront when he thinks the NSA isn't watching...:rolleyes:

ZeroJunk 09-22-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 172818)
Surpassed in objectivity only by the likes of EIB and Fox?:rolleyes:

Dave


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Surpassed in objectivity by pretty much everybody.

bobabode 09-22-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 172818)
Surpassed in objectivity only by the likes of EIB and Fox?:rolleyes:

Dave


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Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 172831)
Surpassed in objectivity by pretty much everybody.

I knew I smelled Hannity's talking points emanating from your direction. Try some Limbaugh while you're at it, piker.:rolleyes:

BlueStreak 09-22-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 172835)
I knew I smelled Hannity's talking points emanating from your direction. Try some Limbaugh while you're at it, piker.:rolleyes:

Speaking of fat men, sitting on a mountain of gold, who think the whole world is after his treasure..................

Limbaugh is the Poster Child of the Plutocratic Persecution Complex.

Dave

CarlV 09-22-2013 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 172815)
Go back to the Huffington Post and watch MSNBC . Those are pinnacles of objective thought.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 172831)
Surpassed in objectivity by pretty much everybody.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/ima...ies/boring.gif



Carl

ZeroJunk 09-22-2013 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 172835)
I knew I smelled Hannity's talking points emanating from your direction. Try some Limbaugh while you're at it, piker.:rolleyes:

No actually I don't watch Hannity. I have no use for anybody that is against anything Obama or Democrats do regardless of what it is.

On the other hand I don't care for liberals who so the same thing, which is the majority on this forum.

bobabode 09-22-2013 06:47 PM

Yeh, whatever. You aren't worth the keystrokes, pally. So far.

BlueStreak 09-22-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk (Post 172851)
No actually I don't watch Hannity. I have no use for anybody that is against anything Obama or Democrats do regardless of what it is.

On the other hand I don't care for liberals who so the same thing, which is the majority on this forum.

I can go along with this. I used to occasionally vote Republican.....until they turned into a party full of Hannitys................:rolleyes:

Hannity....Is that about a smug, sanctimonious sumbitch or what? I can't stand the sight of him. He looks like Eddie Munster. Think about it.

Dave

piece-itpete 09-23-2013 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 172756)
They know how to make money? I thought that was a good thing? I thought all Democrats were welfare check cashing bums?

The leaders of the sheeple are the rich ones.

Did I get the nomenclature right? :p

I did the math on Congress a couple years ago here and the Dems were a LOT richer per person. Baaa ;)

Pete

MikeG22 09-23-2013 10:13 AM

I like when democrats use the 90's as an example of how they created a great economy under Clinton. Then the republican rebuttal is that the red congress was responsible. How about the technological revolution which saw a few small companies like Intel and Microsoft become global giants and make Americans a fortune? I don't think government had nearly as much to do with the booming economy as the thriving market. It also saw the criminal banks handing money out like it was free and so many people getting in over there heads which lead to the Bush era depression. And then the opposite both sides play the blame game. I don't give credit or blame to either side for either time frame.

BlueStreak 09-23-2013 10:22 AM

Sounds reasonable to me. But, fat headed sharks like Gingrich will always try to grab credit for anything good.;)

BlueStreak 09-23-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 172947)
The leaders of the sheeple are the rich ones.

Did I get the nomenclature right? :p

I did the math on Congress a couple years ago here and the Dems were a LOT richer per person. Baaa ;)

Pete

And, you want to give them a fat tax cut. The richest people in this country aren't politicians at all....................

They just own a few.

Dave

piece-itpete 09-23-2013 10:28 AM

Iirc the Dem Congress reupped it, and Obama signed it.

Pete

whell 09-23-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 172788)
But no tea party, and the people in Congress back then actually governed. But then Clinton is white.:p

Yes, Clinton was a cracka. :rolleyes:

Since the mid-1990's, the Republicans have failed to control the growth of government, and have failed a substantial subset of the electorate who traditionally looked to the right side of the aisle to be the check and balance against unrestrained federal growth.

piece-itpete 09-23-2013 12:14 PM

'whell' said :)

But I thought Clinton was the first black President?

Pete

merrylander 09-23-2013 12:41 PM

You guys make me laugh, unrestrained growth my arse. If the Feds don't do it who will? Charitable organizations? Right, just as long as you are willing to adopt their dogma. The whole neighbourhood will band together to repave the street? Actually we used to hire a crop duster to spray all our trees for webworm, hasn't been done for ten years at least.

Abe Lincoln said it best;

"The legitimate object of government is to do for people what needs to be done." Lincoln made these comments on what role the government should play on July 1, 1854. Lincoln asked why government exists. "Why not each individual," he said, "take himself the whole fruit of his labor, without having any of it taxed away , , , ?" He answered saying that government should do what people cannot do by individual effort. Lincoln cited many examples of things that people cannot do on their own: making and maintaining roads and bridges, providing for the helpless, providing schools, and disposing of the deceased's property. Other responsibilities of government, Lincoln pointed out, are because of the "injustice of men." These responsibilities include the forming and maintaining of the military, police, and civil departments. Lincoln said the government should protect its citizens and prevent them from committing wrongs. He said it was not the government's place to redress the wrongs of the world, but it "may, and ought to, redress all wrongs which are wrongs to the nation itself."

Lets face it we are the least taxed of the industrialized nations yet we still piss and moan about taxes 'cause we are cheap.

piece-itpete 09-23-2013 12:50 PM

Where does it stop?

Pete

BlueStreak 09-23-2013 01:31 PM

To be determined on a flexible basis as conditions change and necessity dictates.

One things for sure, rigidity and intransigence on the part of those who refuse to face the prospect of even the tiniest sacrifice of personal liberty for the greater good will never get us anywhere but further behind.

"Obviously, it is impractical.....................":rolleyes:

Dave

merrylander 09-23-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 172995)
Where does it stop?

Pete

Just maybe when children no longer go to bed hungry.

Maybe when the richest country in the world no longer has citizens living below the poverty line.

Maybe when we stop making Pharmaceutical companies super wealthy and giving eight figure salaries to CEOs.

When all senior citizens can eat real food.

You need to find a copy of Elizabeth Barrett Browning's poem "The Children"

bobabode 09-23-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 172979)
Yes, Clinton was a cracka. :rolleyes:

Since the mid-1990's, the Republicans have failed to control the growth of government, and have failed a substantial subset of the electorate who traditionally looked to the right side of the aisle to be the check and balance against unrestrained federal growth.

Too bad for you that the subset you speak of is shrinking daily.:rolleyes:

"Cracka"? You guys crack me up. Who would've thought that in this day and age, an Michigan boy would piss on the graves of all of those brave soldiers from Michigan who fought for emancipation in the Civil War.

whell 09-23-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 173040)
Who would've thought that in this day and age, an Michigan boy would piss on the graves of all of those brave soldiers from Michigan who fought for emancipation in the Civil War.

Like Clinton, I just can't keep my zipper up. :eek:

Rex E. 09-23-2013 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 173014)
Just maybe when children no longer go to bed hungry.

Maybe when the richest country in the world no longer has citizens living below the poverty line.

Maybe when we stop making Pharmaceutical companies super wealthy and giving eight figure salaries to CEOs.

When ball senior citizens can eat real food.

You need to find a copy of Elizabeth Barrett Browning's poem "The Children"


It's "The Cry Of The Children" and here it is

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/172981

merrylander 09-24-2013 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 173085)
It's "The Cry Of The Children" and here it is

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/172981

Guess my memory is not what it used to be. She wrote that as a cry against child labour but it can apply to other abuses against children. The last lines may well be prophetic.

My Dad was working in the woolen mills at twelve. Once in Canada he finished his education by correspondence, ended as a statiistician - only reason I know how to spell it.

Charles 09-24-2013 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 173121)
Guess my memory is not what it used to be. She wrote that as a cry against child labour but it can apply to other abuses against children. The last lines may well be prophetic.

My Dad was working in the woolen mills at twelve. Once in Canada he finished his education by correspondence, ended as a statiistician - only reason I know how to spell it.

You did that on purpose, didn't you?

Chas


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