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Combwork 09-18-2013 12:31 PM

Video Game
 
Not Lana Del Ray but another high octane video game; Grand Theft Auto. Made in Scotland. Highly violent and going by the accents and "Gansta Rap", set in a mythical city in the U.S. of A.

Does anyone reckon it encourages street violence, or has it no effect; players knowing it's make believe.

Dondilion 09-18-2013 02:29 PM

I believe kids who are exposed for a long time to this crap become
hardened, are more readily to tolerate brutality.

piece-itpete 09-18-2013 02:33 PM

Agreed! We desensitize children to violence very early here.

Pete

bobabode 09-18-2013 03:29 PM

Personally, I think the connection is bullshit. How about war re-enactments?

BlueStreak 09-18-2013 04:32 PM

I don't. I think it very well could have an effect to some degree. War movies and even re-enactments are not interactive. The actors realize they are acting and the public is passively observing. It may not make every end user a raging lunatic, but, I can see where it could foster a subtle desensitization.

bobabode 09-18-2013 04:48 PM

I dunno, Dave. The Japanese have some pretty gruesome video games and their kids play a lot more than anyone. They aren't out there playing shoot 'em up for real. It's a common theme in right wing diatribes about how Hollyweird is to blame and first person shooter games are what is desensitizing kids. Meh, I smell deflection of the NRA sort.

Hell, I've spent far too many hours shooting down Nazis and Japanese planes in MS Combat Flight Simulator and it hasn't turned me into a bloodthirsty killer.

Mebbe if I got my hands on a real P38 or P51 I would snap but I doubt it though.

mpholland 09-18-2013 07:01 PM

I think the media is more apt to be desensitizing than video games. Most people, even kids realize a game is a game. The news shows real events, and they are rarely positive.

icenine 09-18-2013 07:35 PM

Bullshit

Japan has way violent games and Manga comics. You can probably count gun homicides on one hand. Where do you think Tarantino gets all of his violent movie ideas?


cop out of the highest order.

Rex E. 09-18-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 171998)
I dunno, Dave. The Japanese have some pretty gruesome video games and their kids play a lot more than anyone. They aren't out there playing shoot 'em up for real. It's a common theme in right wing diatribes about how Hollyweird is to blame and first person shooter games are what is desensitizing kids. Meh, I smell deflection of the NRA sort.

Hell, I've spent far too many hours shooting down Nazis and Japanese planes in MS Combat Flight Simulator and it hasn't turned me into a bloodthirsty killer.

Mebbe if I got my hands on a real P38 or P51 I would snap but I doubt it though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 172009)
Bullshit

Japan has way violent games and Manga comics. You can probably count gun homicides on one hand. Where do you think Tarantino gets all of his violent movie ideas?


cop out of the highest order.

Yup

Japanese video games are played more and are far more violent but yet look at the murder stats and gun violence stats.

Huge cop out for the gun industry to try and take heat off them. They just hope folks "in the know" don't get the truth out, like most things.

I'm pretty sure pete and a few others have cracked open a little tome known as "the Bible". Shit, God himself told folks to commit genocide but not to stop at that, to kill all the livestock and salt the fields......

Zeke 09-18-2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 172009)
Bullshit

Japan has way violent games and Manga comics. You can probably count gun homicides on one hand.

Appropriate gun control at work.

icenine 09-18-2013 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 172028)
Appropriate gun control at work.

I also think that Japanese society places value on the group and family more than the individual, in general. For example, one usually works for one company for life...not moving from place to place like we do. I do not think it is "all about me" like it is here, where we place much more emphasis on the individual.

I need to have a CCW because it is my right!!!!!!!!
Who cares about what anyone else thinks...."me first"

if you think about it that is the gun lobby in a nutshell...me first

I am glad I live in Cali....I do not see armed folks at Starbucks here thank goodness. I do not want it. Most of us here do not want that.

I have seen the violence decrease here since the 90s.....it is not perfect of course....but we are getting a good rep I think. Better than some other places. I like the strict gun laws here re ccw. Of course you can still purchase weapons and ammo.

Rex E. 09-18-2013 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 172035)
I also think that Japanese society places value on the group and family more than the individual, in general. For example, one usually works for one company for life...not moving from place to place like we do. I do not think it is "all about me" like it is here, where we place much more emphasis on the individual.

I need to have a CCW because it is my right!!!!!!!!
Who cares about what anyone else thinks...."me first"

if you think about it that is the gun lobby in a nutshell...me first

I am glad I live in Cali....I do not see armed folks at Starbucks here thank goodness. I do not want it. Most of us here do not want that.

I have seen the violence decrease here since the 90s.....it is not perfect of course....but we are getting a good rep I think. Better than some other places. I like the strict gun laws here re ccw. Of course you can still purchase weapons and ammo.

I've posted the Canadian gun laws at least once on here if not more. They seem very reasonable to me.......

icenine 09-19-2013 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 172045)
I've posted the Canadian gun laws at least once on here if not more. They seem very reasonable to me.......

Yes

I think our culture is different too
maybe we are more violent in real life but less in media

sadly
which is a scary thought

BlueStreak 09-19-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 171998)
I dunno, Dave. The Japanese have some pretty gruesome video games and their kids play a lot more than anyone. They aren't out there playing shoot 'em up for real. It's a common theme in right wing diatribes about how Hollyweird is to blame and first person shooter games are what is desensitizing kids. Meh, I smell deflection of the NRA sort.

Hell, I've spent far too many hours shooting down Nazis and Japanese planes in MS Combat Flight Simulator and it hasn't turned me into a bloodthirsty killer.

Mebbe if I got my hands on a real P38 or P51 I would snap but I doubt it though.

Could be.

piece-itpete 09-19-2013 08:48 AM

Ugandans have a lower amount of heart attacks. Apropos how exactly?

Strange how violent crime went up as movies got more violent. Do they rip heads off or blast zombies to bits in civil war reenactments?

Get with the Tipper program ;)

Pete

icenine 09-19-2013 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 172114)
Ugandans have a lower amount of heart attacks. Apropos how exactly?

Strange how violent crime went up as movies got more violent. Do they rip heads off or blast zombies to bits in civil war reenactments?

Get with the Tipper program ;)

Pete

is violent crime really up?

piece-itpete 09-19-2013 09:20 AM

I'm thinking throughout the 70s as violent movies got more graphic.

Pete


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