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Charles 08-27-2013 06:38 PM

Kuchinich says.
 
http://m.nationalreview.com/corner/3...sterling-beard

I always liked the guy.

While I certainly didn't agree with him on every issue, he was as a rule candid, and open for a discussion...even when he was in office.

As far as that goes, IMHO he is one of the few from the hill who is willing to address an issue from a more cerebral view as opposed to partisan politics.

I have a great admiration for honesty, for without it, the premise of any argument becomes fallacious by nature.

Besides, he is making a valid point with his above statement.

Chas

bobabode 08-27-2013 08:15 PM

Good line here.;) “So what, we’re about to become al-Qaeda’s air force now?” Kucinich sarcastically asked The Hill.

icenine 08-27-2013 08:28 PM

I can see the set up coming a mile away. If Obama takes unilateral action the Tea Party congress will try to impeach him for not declaring war first. Even though Reagan and Clinton did the same exact thing. I can see this coming a mile away.

Obama is in a tough place. The thing is if does take action McCain and Graham may not vote for conviction in the Senate.

Now the Republicans in the House want Obama to call a session.



I hope I am wrong but this is how I see it playing out.

or maybe it is just me

Rajoo 08-27-2013 08:59 PM

Actually Obama politically is in a safe place. Avoid any action in Syria. They are both our enemies. Sunnis in the form of Al Qaeda and Shia in the form of Hezbolla. Obama is fortunate that these two groups also hate each other. Let them go at it.

All this country really remembers is 9/11 and Al Qaeda. Obama needs to keep saying "helping the rebels is helping Al Qaeda". Which also happens to be true. American public is tired of wars we don't win, lose lives and wind up paying with borrowed money. He is a lame duck, congress is stagnant so who gives a damn?

It's not a matter of who we are fighting against, it's who we are fighting for which is Al Qaeda. Hey, Bush kept saying WMD and rushed us into a disastrous war. Obama can do the opposite, keep on saying Al Qaeda and then even McCain, graham and the MIC will become irrelevant.

bobabode 08-27-2013 09:13 PM

The Repugnant party in the house doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of sustaining an impeachment measure against the President.

Zeke 08-27-2013 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 169671)
The Repugnant party in the house doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of sustaining an impeachment measure against the President.

I'd adore watching them try it (and embarrassingly fail).

It's just one more step in the Republican Party destroying themselves.

bobabode 08-28-2013 12:10 AM

The funny thing is that I yearn for the days of them being the honorable opposition, Zeke. They've now morphed into some sick & twisted shufflin' Alex Jones golem bent on anihilation.

JJIII 08-28-2013 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 169670)
Actually Obama politically is in a safe place. Avoid any action in Syria. They are both our enemies. Sunnis in the form of Al Qaeda and Shia in the form of Hezbolla. Obama is fortunate that these two groups also hate each other. Let them go at it.

All this country really remembers is 9/11 and Al Qaeda. Obama needs to keep saying "helping the rebels is helping Al Qaeda". Which also happens to be true. American public is tired of wars we don't win, lose lives and wind up paying with borrowed money. He is a lame duck, congress is stagnant so who gives a damn?

It's not a matter of who we are fighting against, it's who we are fighting for which is Al Qaeda. Hey, Bush kept saying WMD and rushed us into a disastrous war. Obama can do the opposite, keep on saying Al Qaeda and then even McCain, graham and the MIC will become irrelevant.

This. (In bold)

BlueStreak 08-28-2013 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 169670)
Actually Obama politically is in a safe place. Avoid any action in Syria. They are both our enemies. Sunnis in the form of Al Qaeda and Shia in the form of Hezbolla. Obama is fortunate that these two groups also hate each other. Let them go at it.

All this country really remembers is 9/11 and Al Qaeda. Obama needs to keep saying "helping the rebels is helping Al Qaeda". Which also happens to be true. American public is tired of wars we don't win, lose lives and wind up paying with borrowed money. He is a lame duck, congress is stagnant so who gives a damn?

It's not a matter of who we are fighting against, it's who we are fighting for which is Al Qaeda. Hey, Bush kept saying WMD and rushed us into a disastrous war. Obama can do the opposite, keep on saying Al Qaeda and then even McCain, graham and the MIC will become irrelevant.

Makes sense to me.

BlueStreak 08-28-2013 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 169671)
The Repugnant party in the house doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of sustaining an impeachment measure against the President.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 169680)
I'd adore watching them try it (and embarrassingly fail).

It's just one more step in the Republican Party destroying themselves.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 169681)
The funny thing is that I yearn for the days of them being the honorable opposition, Zeke. They've now morphed into some sick & twisted shufflin' Alex Jones golem bent on anihilation.

They set themselves on this course by picking up the mantle of every conspiracy theorist whackjob, single issue zealot and greedy, selfish asshole that'll send them a buck and a vote.

It really wasn't that long ago that the GOP would distance themselves from such people. Now they send them up to run for the presidency.

Until they see the foolishness of this, they will continue to suffer.

Dave

BlueStreak 08-28-2013 08:10 AM

I enjoyed reading the comments, and taking notice of how quickly the hate filled wingnuts showed up to drive the level of discourse into the toilet. It only lasted for, what, three posts? Typical.

Dave

piece-itpete 08-28-2013 09:52 AM

Obama is going to strike Syria. Our leaders in the NWO demand it, and he is one of them.

Is it right? I dunno.

Some of the comments on that article lol! Dennis seems to make sense occasionally and doesn't care about party leadership but don't forget he is something of a whackjob ;)

Pete

Rajoo 08-28-2013 10:06 AM

Obama should read this then.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...tacks/2712163/

BlueStreak 08-28-2013 03:28 PM

When was the last time American intervention really fixed anything? WW2? Oh, there was Reagans twenty minute "war" in Grenada.........:rolleyes:

Our government can't run this country, what makes anyone think those bozos can run the whole world?

Dave

Zeke 08-28-2013 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 169702)
Obama is going to strike Syria. Our leaders in the NWO demand it, and he is one of them.

I don't believe we'll do anything as bumbling meatheaded as a full-on military strike.

If we do incite anything, I believe it will be the mysterious disappearance of certain leadership factions with plausible deniability.

CarlV 08-28-2013 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 169704)

I wonder why they don't ask for more assistance from the USA? ;)


Carl

piece-itpete 08-29-2013 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 169749)
I don't believe we'll do anything as bumbling meatheaded as a full-on military strike.

If we do incite anything, I believe it will be the mysterious disappearance of certain leadership factions with plausible deniability.

What's full on? I guessed bombing, but it looks like missile strikes.

Pete

BlueStreak 08-29-2013 03:41 PM

Full on? Boots on the ground?

Whatever it is, I have faith that we'll screw it up, seeing as how we haven't fought a war to win since 1945. And, as far as that goes, I believe if you aren't going to do it right you should just hang up the ammo belt and stay home.

We have become pathetic.


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