Palin's march to the Whitehouse
 

If you guys can't see it, you better look closer. This women is building a machine. I just hope it's 2012, not 2016.

I donno TD, I don't think she'll ever make it.

Now she just might create a conservative and populist voting block which will force the GOP away from business as usual, which I think is good.

Or she may destroy the GOP as it is, which I also think is good.

I'm not one to subscribe to the notion that the GOP, in order to win elections, needs to align themselves with the principles of the left. Why even have an election if both parties are one and the same, and they're pretty much there at this point.

It would be nice to have one party which represents the little guys, as opposed to two parties which represent the special interests.

Then again, a new and fresh populist party wouldn't remain so for very long once they made it to the Hill. Odds are, they would be bought off too.

But it would be a breath of fresh air for awhile.

Chas

Ya know Charles, two weeks ago I felt the exact same way, but now I'm starting to wonder. I think she's crazy like a Fox. I've also noticed that if you ask 10 conservatives if they think she will ever be prez, most will say they doubt it. However, if you ask them if they would vote for her, they nearly ALWAYS say, of course. Have you been following all her book stuff lately?

She was brought in to be a breath of fresh air and help Mccain's campain
appear younger. Well we all know how that worked out. I think they would
have turned things around for the better but we will never know.Some People
were so blinded by the war coverage that their vote for Obama was a vote
against Bush and yet the war rages on but is only reported on the bottom
ticker. It would be great to have some genuine people represent us but they
are attacked by the opposite agenda and quickly made to look like fools.

I dont think the republican party will hang their hat on her nor should they.

We were "blinded" by the war, the shredding of the Constitution, the flouting of international law and our treaty obligations, the collapse of the economy, the incredible arrogance of the Administration and of Republicans as a whole, the contempt in which we were held in the world....

We couldn't see the magic of the Bush years and, therefore, had no desire to see McCain launch Bush's third term.... only to drop dead midstream and have Palin continue the journey.

We sure were dumb, huh?

Oh, and nobody can make you look like a fool if you don't help them.

John

A little bit. I don't know who her handlers are, but they're doing a good job. Aren't they already pressing another million copies?

And the liberals are giving her both barrels. From the 11 "proofreaders" to the cover on Newsweek, they're trying every trick in the book.

You always draw the most flack whenever you're over the target.

I also picked up her interview on O'Reilly. IMHO, she's not up to the task, and she doesn't really do well in one on one interviews.

But I'm comparing her to the likes of Cheney. You can like him or hate him, but NOBODY bulls him around.

Would I vote for her? That would depend on the political circumstances at the time, and what nitwit the Dems run against her. It's almost like a race to the bottom at times.

Time will tell. Some people are more valuable on the sidelines while they let someone else run the ball. From a conservative viewpoint, she would be better on the sidelines.

That another Palinesque sports metaphor just to stir up the libs, who are just waiting to pounce. And I'll beat ya'll to the draw...she would look pretty good with a set of pom poms.

Let's see them fangs!!!!!

Chas

For all practical purposes, the Obama Administration looks like the continuance of Bush's third term.

The special interests are still writing laws, we're still in the Middle East, we're still spending money we don't have, GITMO is still open, and the Patriot Act hasn't been revoked.

But I will agree, no one can make you look like a fool unless you help them.

Chas

I hope they do run her in 2012, look what happened in New York's 23rd.:D

Thought they were still counting votes there.

Al Gore would be proud.

Chas

Probably the GOP that's counting, but they already conceeded.

The libs are disappointing me. How can we be on the second page of this thread without a single "trailer trash" comment?:D I say she's a force to be reckoned with. Apparently Oprah had her highest ratings in many many years when Palin was on. One thing's for sure, it will be interesting to watch her.

Besides, you can take a couple of readings on the NY 23rd.

One is the Palin camp split the vote and handed a victory to the Democrats in a Republican district.

The other is that the Palin camp supported a 3rd party candidate 30 days before the election and damn near won. Even with the Republican candidate throwing her support to the Democrats.

Looks to me that the powers that be don't want a 3rd party.

Chas

You are correct, she is a force to be reckoned with...at least at this time.

Personally, I'd like to see a populist 3rd party. If she can help bring this about, then more power to her.

The fact that the Democrats despise her and the main stream Republicans don't much like her tells me something.

They're afraid that she might turn over their collective applecart. Left up to me, I'd run smooth over their asses with it.

But I always was a loose cannon.

Chas

Actually the Palinistas supported a carpetbagger.

Well, carpetbagging seems to be a popular sport up North.

Wouldn't want to mention any names, like "Hillary".

Chas

I hope it's both! And again in 2020!

She *is* a force to be reckoned with. You are right! Make sure you tell all your right wing friends and rally the "base" on all the right wing web sites. Get out there and get that woman nominated!! Shoot, the DNC may even fund the effort.

Sauce for the goose, Chas! What about Minnesota?

If it's close enough they should be recounting and Al Gore should be proud.

In NY 23, Hoffman conceded, unconceded and then conceded again. :D:D:D

John

It's like Wrasslin': theater and blood but you wouldn't want a wrassler in high political office!. Oh, wait!

John

Never did, never will. The Bullmoose Party & Teddy Roosevelt probably cost Taft the 1912 election and gave it to Wilson. Perot hurt Bush Senior the 1992 election and Nader (plus a little old fashioned theft) cost Gore in 2000.

Neither of the big parties likes these third party efforts. It throws a monkey wrench into the "machinery".

John

Or James Buckley or Alan Keyes.

John

It is like All Star Wrasslin'. Least that's what we had on the local teevee when I was a kid.

While they were in the ring, you would have thought that they wanted to kill each other. The bad guys would cheat, bash the good guy in the head with a folding chair, or pull out a set of brass knuckles, all while the official was "looking" the other way.

But it didn't fool the crowd!!!! They'd be screaming at the official, trying to point out what had happened behind his back. The best part was when some enraged hayseed would try to get into the ring and set things right!!!!

And after the match, the wrassler's all went into the dressing room, poured a drink, and split up the money.

Perhaps JV found his true calling whenever he went into politics.

Then again, it appears he didn't have the stomach for it.

Chas

That's a fact.

Chas

I don't see the movement that SP is aligned with as a populist movement but as a collection of demagogues. The tea parties and the birthers are trying to stir up prejudice and anger, not trying to promote any alternative plan for governing America. I think Ron Paul makes a much better populist than Sarah Palin.

Regards,

D-Ray

Those behind these "movements" are certainly demagogues. The "Two Minute Hate" on steroids.

John
(Drowning in Oceania)

I'd love to see this happen. IMHO, both the republican and democrat parties are beyond repair.

There is no "Democrat" Party.

John

OMG

Twodog, OK if you believe the earth is flat and that Africa is a country as she does that's one thing but to not see her for what she is is frightening.

....

Maybe a snow machine.

There, fixed it for you.:D

:eek: Chas, Christ I'd vote for Cheney before her. At least Cheney would not destroy this country by accident.



I haven't finished reading the first page in this thread and I am already shocked.

i find it utterly ludicrous that anyone would even consider voting for that woman for president, or governor for that matter. the woman is so obviously not capable of running things. is the republican party so desperate? is the american public so stupid? (okay, dumb questions)

You should admire Gore for his insistence on doing what was best for the country and not exposing Florida.

Read the history books on this one. It will make the Kennedy's look thoughtful.

Yes it means everyone knows she's an idiot. This is not rocket science.


I need a beer or I'll never make it through this thread.

[QUOTE=noonereal;10904]Yes it means everyone knows she's an idiot. This is not rocket science.


Then why don't your fuckin' ass run for president.


It chaps my ass that many will call her names when she is at least a ''VERY DECENT AMERICAN''. :mad:

I disagree on the birthers and the tea party folks.

The birthers, right or wrong, don't think that Obama has furnished the proper birth certificate. Who knows, but to the best of my understanding, he hasn't been forthcoming with records from his past.

No one wants to touch this one with a ten foot pole. Can you imagine the shit storm if it was proven that Obama wasn't eligible to be POTUS?

The Tea Party folks feel that a lot of Obama's policies don't pass constitutional muster. But the constitution has been "That GD piece of paper" every since the Whiskey Rebellion, IMHO. Johnny come lately's , but maybe better than Johnny's that never show.

And I'll take a Ron Paul any day...only he doesn't inspire the "fire in the belly".

If Palin were to step to one side and deliver the faithful to a Ron Paul type, well, I think that would be a positive thing.

I'm all in favor of "change you can believe in", I just ain't seen it yet.

Chas

Well, it tells me that they're afraid she may screw up their shell game.

I don't see her as an idiot at all. Just new to playing high stakes poker.

Besides, just how smart do you have to be to be POTUS? Reagan and Shrub climbed to the top of the greasy pole.

Now don't keep that thought, I wouldn't want you to tie a plastic bag over your head tonite.

I ain't into guilt trips!!!!

Chas

How do you figure she is a decent American?

The women despises the majority of Americans. How is that good?

Clearly you and I have very different ideas as to what constitutes a "decent America."

You have to be smart enough to know that man did not walk among dinosaurs, that Africa is not a country and that having a witch doctor perform a service on you to keep witches away is bizarre.