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Dondilion 07-01-2013 09:50 PM

Battle of Gettysburgh July 1-3 1863 150yrs
 
C Span is giving a day by day account by three accomplished historians. Two more days to go.

Basically Lee is invading the North in the hope that Northerners lose their appetite for the war.

The Army of the Potomac has a new leader George Meade.

What is obvious after the first day is the strong defensive position of the Union forces.
The non attempt of Confederate General Ewell to take Cemetery Hill was regarded by historians as a greatly missed
opportunity.


Below is a concise Wiki day by day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_gettysburg

Dondilion 07-02-2013 10:22 AM

July 2 1863

The Union defense line is described as a fish hook.
Lee's plan is to attack in such a fashion as to make it difficult for the Union Army to shift forces from it right to left defences.

The plan is thwarted by its lack of timing and the forward position of Union Officer Sickles.

After 2 days of fierce fighting the Union is able to shift forces to weak areas within its defence "fish hook".

Lee intelligence is also impaired by the absence of the cavalry under Stuart.

finnbow 07-02-2013 12:36 PM

I've been to Gettysburg battlefield numerous times and am awestruck each time I go. I haven't been since they've torn the tower down and built the new visitor's center though. Equally mind-blowing (maybe even more so) is Antietam battlefield. Gettysburg remains the bloodiest battle ever fought in the western hemisphere and Antietam remains the single bloodiest day in American history. Both are about 45 minutes from where I live.

Dondilion 07-02-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 162563)
I've been to Gettysburg battlefield numerous times and am awestruck each time I go. I haven't been since they've torn the tower down and built the new visitor's center though. Equally mind-blowing (maybe even more so) is Antietam battlefield. Gettysburg remains the bloodiest battle ever fought in the western hemisphere and Antietam remains the single bloodiest day in American history. Both are about 45 minutes from where I live.

It is a shame.....I have not been there. I should plan for next year.

The civil war and the giant struggle between Germany and Russia in WW11 have always intrigued me.

Here are some reenactors. I guess they need a time machine. :D

http://rt.com/in-vision/150th-annive...le-gettysburg/

finnbow 07-02-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 162577)
It is a shame.....I have not been there. I should plan for next year.

The civil war and the giant struggle between Germany and Russia in WW11 have always intrigued me.

Here are some reenactors. I guess they need a time machine. :D

http://rt.com/in-vision/150th-annive...le-gettysburg/

I recommend this book very highly on the subject of the Civil War and its modern day reenactors (along with all other Tony Horwitz books, BTW). Great read.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...,1,0_SH20_.jpg

Dondilion 07-02-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 162610)
I recommend this book very highly on the subject of the Civil War and its modern day reenactors (along with all other Tony Horwitz books, BTW). Great read.

Thanks!

Many years ago I use to work among some Georgians who in their everyday life behave as if Sherman was around the corner.

Dondilion 07-03-2013 09:56 AM

July-3, 1863. The final day of this huge and pivotal battle.

After observing that Union lines were essentially intact Lee changed his plan.

He would attack the center of the left side of the hook.

First he let loose, what is regarded as the biggest employment of artillery in the war, on the said center.

The above was followed by a charge of 12,000+ Confederates, which though gallant failed because of heavy fire from the flanks and the Union artillery was still intact.

Jeb Stuart's cavalry was blunted by that of the Union which included an impulsive commander CUSTER. :D

After three days 57,000 casualties.

bobabode 07-03-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 162563)
I've been to Gettysburg battlefield numerous times and am awestruck each time I go. I haven't been since they've torn the tower down and built the new visitor's center though. Equally mind-blowing (maybe even more so) is Antietam battlefield. Gettysburg remains the bloodiest battle ever fought in the western hemisphere and Antietam remains the single bloodiest day in American history. Both are about 45 minutes from where I live.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 162577)
It is a shame.....I have not been there. I should plan for next year.

Same here, Pat. We went to both battlefields on the same day back in the early '70s. Somber and awestruck experiences. Chilling for a teenager wondering if Vietnam was in my near future.

Go Don, it is worth the trip and may I recommend doing it in the Fall during apple harvest time. Try the cider.;)

Charles 07-04-2013 10:25 AM

Just the thought of putting on some itchy wool uniform, and then living in a tent in some bug infested weed patch in the middle of July while eating hardtack is enough to make my skin crawl.

I was talking to one reenactor and he loved it. He had uniforms and all of the necessary equipment to be on either side.

He said around here he was generally a Southerner, but when he went South he was a Yankee because, "Nobody down there wants to be a Yankee."

A most likeable and entertaining fellow. That said, we certainly have two very separate definitions of fun.

Chas

BlueStreak 07-04-2013 10:57 AM

I remember the family stopping in at Gettysburg sometime in the late 60s/early '70s. So, I was very young and don't remember much about it. Well, besides the ghost that was following me around.....What was his problem?

Dave

BlueStreak 07-04-2013 11:01 AM

"Just the thought of putting on some itchy wool uniform, and then living in a tent in some bug infested weed patch in the middle of July while eating hardtack is enough to make my skin crawl."

Heck yes! I forget the numbers, but what struck me was hearing how many died simply from heatstroke, frostbite or disease. It was some unGodly number.

Dave

Dondilion 07-04-2013 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles (Post 162899)
Just the thought of putting on some itchy wool uniform, and then living in a tent in some bug infested weed patch in the middle of July while eating hardtack is enough to make my skin crawl.

I was talking to one reenactor and he loved it. He had uniforms and all of the necessary equipment to be on either side.

He said around here he was generally a Southerner, but when he went South he was a Yankee because, "Nobody down there wants to be a Yankee."

A most likeable and entertaining fellow. That said, we certainly have two very separate definitions of fun.

Chas

Well what about the real fellows?

When war was declared whole communities were overjoyed as if expecting manna from heaven.

Although from a movie "COLD MOUNTAIN" :the joyous eruption which occurred and interrupted church service when the congregation was informed that a war was on, I am told is representative of the time.

"I have got myself a war!". :D

Dancing, merrymaking, firing of shots in the air. WTF.

Oerets 07-04-2013 11:21 AM

Use to work with Civil War reenactors. Tough bunch of guys. Real strict on what was allowed. But they do like to drink at night after the battle.



Barney

BlueStreak 07-04-2013 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 162906)
Well what about the real fellows?

When war was declared whole communities were overjoyed as if expecting manna from heaven.

Although from a movie "COLD MOUNTAIN" :the joyous eruption which occurred and interrupted church service when the congregation was informed that a war was on, I am told is representative of the time.

"I have got myself a war!". :D

Dancing, merrymaking, firing of shots in the air. WTF.

WTF is up with people who still treat war as if it is a game now? You'd think we would have learned something by now.

Dave

Charles 07-04-2013 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 162907)
Use to work with Civil War reenactors. Tough bunch of guys. Real strict on what was allowed. But they do like to drink at night after the battle.



Barney

I guess an air conditioner for the tent and a rubber whore to pass out on are out of the question, huh?

Chas

Oerets 07-04-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles (Post 162913)
I guess an air conditioner for the tent and a rubber whore to pass out on are out of the question, huh?

Chas

One of the guy's brings a cannon and limber so drives a 40' motor home with a trailer. Many a night we spend after the ball into the wee hours.

Never got into the CW era more a French and Indiana, Rev war dress up kinda guy. But those days are gone now. To hot and will not fit into the leathers anymore.



Barney

Charles 07-04-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 162918)
One of the guy's brings a cannon and limber so drives a 40' motor home with a trailer. Many a night we spend after the ball into the wee hours.

Never got into the CW era more a French and Indiana, Rev war dress up kinda guy. But those days are gone now. To hot and will not fit into the leathers anymore.



Barney

So you've actually participated as a reenactor?

That's great.

Chas

Oerets 07-04-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles (Post 162920)
So you've actually participated as a reenactor?

That's great.

Chas

Years ago when able, George Rogers Clark (Longknifes) a big influence on the early years around here, D. and Squire Boone also.

Then there is always Friendship Indiana at least twice a year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIvjltHP4-E

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...le_Association



Barney

Oerets 07-04-2013 12:41 PM

Been racking my brain to remember the guys name who is in a scene of the movie Gettysburg. Got shot going over a fence. (really just tripped but they used it as a kill shot!) They were all in the movie but he is the only one to get a closeup.



Barney


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