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finnbow 06-16-2013 12:47 PM

Walmart vs. Costco - An interesting comparison
 
http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2013/06...co-comparison/

I'll admit to being a fan of Costco and pretty ambivalent to negative about Walmart. It seems you get what you pay for.

bobabode 06-16-2013 01:37 PM

Nice to see some numbers that back up what I've heard about the two biggest retailers around. Even with the additional yearly membership fee it's still a better place to shop. We bought a cat tree for $75 yesterday at Costco that is half the price of everywhere else. The place was packed.

mpholland 06-16-2013 01:57 PM

I get my jalapeno/garlic stuffed olives, french roast coffee, toothbrush heads, and tires from Costco exclusively. Several other things, but those are at the top of my list. I also have my AmEx through Costco. As long as I pay my annual Costco membership, there is no fee for the card. Nice to see that comparison. It should go to show people that you can treat employees right, pay them a good wage with insurance, and still remain very profitable.

d-ray657 06-16-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpholland (Post 161242)
I get my jalapeno/garlic stuffed olives, french roast coffee, toothbrush heads, and tires from Costco exclusively. Several other things, but those are at the top of my list. I also have my AmEx through Costco. As long as I pay my annual Costco membership, there is no fee for the card. Nice to see that comparison. It should go to show people that you can treat employees right, pay them a good wage with insurance, and still remain very profitable.

Didn't Costco get started in your neck of the woods?

I have a nephew in Seattle who works as a store-opener for Costco. He had to deal with some serious health issues and Costco worked with him to help him get through it.

Regards,

D-Ray

MikeG22 06-17-2013 08:49 AM

Isn't Costco more like Sam's Club warehouse bulk type of business? I'd like to see how Walmart compares to a store like Target or Kmart because isn't that a better comparison?

In any case, hats off to Costco, I know they are treating their employees much better than BJ's wholesale which is in my area and pays minimum wage.

d-ray657 06-17-2013 09:26 AM

Sam's Club would be a good comparison to Costco. Sam's is also part of Wal-Mart.

Regards,

D-Ray

Dondilion 06-17-2013 09:53 AM

Poor me!

Walmart has been successfully locked out of the City by a combination of small business and union interest. :(

I do not know much about Costco.

JJIII 06-17-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 161316)
Poor me!

Walmart has been successfully locked out of the City by a combination of small business and union interest. :(

I do not know much about Costco.

You ain't missing much!:eek:

icenine 06-17-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 161316)
Poor me!

Walmart has been successfully locked out of the City by a combination of small business and union interest. :(

I do not know much about Costco.

Batman protecting Gotham from Walmart!!
disclaimer....I did pick up Cosmo's Factory in the $5 dollar bin two weeks ago

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...rt-david-tovar

BlueStreak 06-17-2013 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 161316)
Poor me!

Walmart has been successfully locked out of the City by a combination of small business and union interest. :(

I do not know much about Costco.

Good for them.:)

Keep those cheerleading Communist pigs out of your city. Small business and Big Business that treats it's people right is the American way.

Dave

BlueStreak 06-17-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 161249)
Didn't Costco get started in your neck of the woods?

I have a nephew in Seattle who works as a store-opener for Costco. He had to deal with some serious health issues and Costco worked with him to help him get through it.

Regards,

D-Ray

My sister works for Home Depot. She ran into health issues a few years back....................and they found an excuse to cut her loose. She was hired back to a different store only to discover her previous time meant nothing and the payscale for "new" employees had dropped by $4 per hour.

Nice, Huh?

Dave

piece-itpete 06-17-2013 01:20 PM

Shop at Lowes is my understanding.

Pete

BlueStreak 06-17-2013 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 161329)
Shop at Lowes is my understanding.

Pete

Yeah, but boycotting doesn't work these days. Neither does trying to address labor issues through the "free market". Too many people only care about that .03 cents they saved on roll of tape and don't give two hoots about employees or American workers in general anymore.

You can thank the GOP propaganda machine for that.

Dave

piece-itpete 06-17-2013 01:35 PM

No Democrats shop at Walmart.

Pete

MikeG22 06-17-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 161327)
My sister works for Home Depot. She ran into health issues a few years back....................and they found an excuse to cut her loose. She was hired back to a different store only to discover her previous time meant nothing and the payscale for "new" employees had dropped by $4 per hour.

Nice, Huh?

Dave

She got to experience Mr. Nardelli's reign of terror at HD. You mean she wasn't given a $200M severence package? Real shame, Home Depot was once a good place to work with competitive wages.

icenine 06-17-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 161331)
No Democrats shop at Walmart.

Pete

I saw you there.....I think you were the guy that bought REO Speedwagon's greatest hits out of the $5 bin....

piece-itpete 06-17-2013 02:24 PM

$5??! Highway robbery! $.30 at Goodwill :p

Pete

icenine 06-17-2013 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 161340)
$5??! Highway robbery! $.30 at Goodwill :p

Pete

LOL the Goodwills in Orange and Riverside Counties take all of the cds they receive as donations and post them on their auction site....you cannot buy them in the B&M stores where I live....count your blessings.

So I do not donate there anymore.

BlueStreak 06-17-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 161331)
No Democrats shop at Walmart.

Pete

Sure they do. But, even if they didn't, it would make no difference.
The only people that can work that out are the employees and their bosses. But, the bosses don't want to "work out" shit with anyone. It's their fiefdom and they'll run it as they see fit. This is why businessmen sometimes need a good, humbling kick in the ass.

Dave

merrylander 06-17-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 161343)
Sure they do. But, even if they didn't, it would make no difference.
The only people that can work that out are the employees and their bosses. But, the bosses don't want to "work out" shit with anyone. It's their fiefdom and they'll run it as they see fit. This is why businessmen sometimes need a good, humbling kick in the ass.

Dave

In truth I would wait for them to turn around.:p

piece-itpete 06-17-2013 03:20 PM

So if they lost business - it wouldn't matter?

Pete

BlueStreak 06-17-2013 03:58 PM

What do they do, Pete? Do they straighten up and treat people better when they lose business? Or do they layoff, cut more and/or shutdown altogether?

Rarely, do these people accept resposibility for a businesses failure. It's darn near always someone elses fault. You haven't seen that? We've all watched these people get rewarded for driving a business into bankruptcy. I watched a company I used to work for do that. The guy drove us $3,000,000,000 (NINE zeros!) into debt and bankruptcy court. Plants across the country got shut down, thousands lost their jobs......The board paid him $14,000,000, then "asked" him to leave.

Woo. I wish someone would "punish" me like that.

Dave

Rex E. 06-17-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 161348)
What do they do, Pete? Do they straighten up and treat people better when they lose business? Or do they layoff, cut more and/or shutdown altogether?

Rarely, do these people accept resposibility for a businesses failure. It's darn near always someone elses fault. You haven't seen that? We've all watched these people get rewarded for driving a business into bankruptcy. I watched a company I used to work for do that. The guy drove us $3,000,000,000 (NINE zeros!) into debt and bankruptcy court. Plants across the country got shut down, thousands lost their jobs......The board paid him $14,000,000, then "asked" him to leave.

Woo. I wish someone would "punish" me like that.

Dave

No sh!t, just be late four times and see what happens...I learned years ago on time meant 20 minutes early ;)

mpholland 06-17-2013 08:37 PM

I normally get to work at least 20 minutes early, but I like to bullshit with my boss while I drink a cup of coffee in the morning. I also travel over the I-5 bridge from OR to WA on my way to work and you never know when there will be a bridge lift. I am fortunate to be one of those guys that make a decent living and like my job. Not getting rich by any means, but there is more to a job than money. I usually only make about 50K, but I have a 4-10 Mon-Thur shift from 5am-3:30pm so I miss the heavy traffic. Employer pays 80% of the premiums for a much better than average med/den/vis package. It is a small company, there are only about 35 total employees and we all get along. It is almost like another family away from home.

bobabode 06-17-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 161345)
In truth I would wait for them to turn around.:p

My thoughts exactly.

Rex E. 06-17-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpholland (Post 161360)
I normally get to work at least 20 minutes early, but I like to bullshit with my boss while I drink a cup of coffee in the morning. I also travel over the I-5 bridge from OR to WA on my way to work and you never know when there will be a bridge lift. I am fortunate to be one of those guys that make a decent living and like my job. Not getting rich by any means, but there is more to a job than money. I usually only make about 50K, but I have a 4-10 Mon-Thur shift from 5am-3:30pm so I miss the heavy traffic. Employer pays 80% of the premiums for a much better than average med/den/vis package. It is a small company, there are only about 35 total employees and we all get along. It is almost like another family away from home.

Are they hiring?

I'd be more than happy to come back up that way.

Zeke 06-18-2013 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 161366)
Are they hiring?

I'd be more than happy to come back up that way.

Same, here.

merrylander 06-18-2013 07:01 AM

I am just happy that I once worked for an honest company that still pays my pension. In fact they just published pictures of Florence and I on our wedding day and as we are now with our two granddaughters standing on our deck in the pensioners magazine. I imagine that the actuaries are shaking their heads as I retired in 1983 at 52, thirty years ago. Being out of the rat race is just fine.

BlueStreak 06-18-2013 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpholland (Post 161360)
I normally get to work at least 20 minutes early, but I like to bullshit with my boss while I drink a cup of coffee in the morning. I also travel over the I-5 bridge from OR to WA on my way to work and you never know when there will be a bridge lift. I am fortunate to be one of those guys that make a decent living and like my job. Not getting rich by any means, but there is more to a job than money. I usually only make about 50K, but I have a 4-10 Mon-Thur shift from 5am-3:30pm so I miss the heavy traffic. Employer pays 80% of the premiums for a much better than average med/den/vis package. It is a small company, there are only about 35 total employees and we all get along. It is almost like another family away from home.

Awesome. Good for you.

So, far I have yet to have any problems with my immediate bosses at my current job. It's the ones above them. They almost seem aloof and disconnected. Every now and then they see the numbers and have a fit. Then, the solutions they come up with have nothing to do with the real problems. I don't get it. These guys just will not get on anyone to do their job. When they do get on someone, it's usually the wrong person. They'll get on the guy that performs every day, but slips up once. The person leaning on the post, scratching his butt, they'll walk past and say "Hi, hows it goin'?" ten times a day and do nothing. They don't have a union to contend with, it's a "Right to Work" state, so...........:confused:

It wasn't like this at all when I started there in 2003. I don't know what happened, but it can't be good.

The job I had before this one is the one I mentioned earlier. I LOVED that job, and what happened there really left me bitter, and opened my eyes to a lot. We had that place tuned like an Indy racer. Constantly getting industry awards for quality and efficiency, but the big whigs in Southfield, Michigan made a fugging mess of it and ran the corporation into the toilet wrecklessly buying up other companies with heavy debt and asbestos liabilities, just to pump up sales volume. "10 Billion by 2002" was the mantra..........shit. What made it worse was the constant and blatant LIES. "Everythings fine, nothing to worry about."....as I'm following the saga in the financial and industry news online and watching the utter stupidity run out of control. GAW!!!!!!:mad:

Anyhow; Rant over.

Carry on.

Dave

d-ray657 06-18-2013 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpholland (Post 161360)
I normally get to work at least 20 minutes early, but I like to bullshit with my boss while I drink a cup of coffee in the morning. I also travel over the I-5 bridge from OR to WA on my way to work and you never know when there will be a bridge lift. I am fortunate to be one of those guys that make a decent living and like my job. Not getting rich by any means, but there is more to a job than money. I usually only make about 50K, but I have a 4-10 Mon-Thur shift from 5am-3:30pm so I miss the heavy traffic. Employer pays 80% of the premiums for a much better than average med/den/vis package. It is a small company, there are only about 35 total employees and we all get along. It is almost like another family away from home.

I think that is one of the keys to your satisfaction. Not big enough for the corporate BS.

Regards,

D-Ray

Dondilion 06-18-2013 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 161322)
Batman protecting Gotham from Walmart!!

All polls show that the people in the city wants Walmart. The people would like the option to stampede for televisions in their city. :D

icenine 06-18-2013 10:00 AM

Walmart is a sign of centralization in a crowded urban atmosphere....
50 years from now we all might be living in highrises where on the ground floor there is a Walmart for all the residents needs.....then one will take a short walk to the bullet train or subway.

If you have been to Singapore you know what I am talking about......

mpholland 06-18-2013 08:20 PM

A local Walmart story http://www.oregonlive.com/sherwood/i...ve_to_rec.html

merrylander 06-19-2013 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 161381)
Walmart is a sign of centralization in a crowded urban atmosphere....
50 years from now we all might be living in highrises where on the ground floor there is a Walmart for all the residents needs.....then one will take a short walk to the bullet train or subway.

If you have been to Singapore you know what I am talking about......

Singapore was land restricted, there was nowhere to go but up. Florence spent some time there, in fact she used to teach disadvantaged children in the Ancient City of Kowloon.

BlueStreak 06-19-2013 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 161374)
I think that is one of the keys to your satisfaction. Not big enough for the corporate BS.

Regards,

D-Ray

Could be. I've only worked for one small business. Everyone was very nice, but...................I like "stuff" and the pay just wasn't there. I've never been rich, but I can't stand being totally broke either....especially not if I'm working. So, I left and went to Cooper Industries, then Federal-Mogul, then Sara Lee and now an Italian company, MZB-USA. Large corporations all.

Believe me, I am painfully familiar with the corporate BS. Just last night, I was thinking of the troubles we had at Cooper.....because of a "Gentlemens Agreement" someone made with GE a hundred+ years ago, they only source certain things (plastic resins, for instance) from GE.........even if it doesn't work in a given product. Stuff like that can get infuriating.

Dave

BlueStreak 06-19-2013 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 161454)
Singapore was land restricted, there was nowhere to go but up. Florence spent some time there, in fact she used to teach disadvantaged children in the Ancient City of Kowloon.

Singapore is a beautiful city. At least it was when I was there in '83 and again in '85.

Dave

icenine 06-19-2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 161454)
Singapore was land restricted, there was nowhere to go but up. Florence spent some time there, in fact she used to teach disadvantaged children in the Ancient City of Kowloon.

We may not be land restricted but I think over the long term we will become more centralized in huge megalopolis's ......just imagine an America with 1.5 billion people rather than 350 million. I think if Walmart was not there it would be another store...too bad it had to be Walmart with the lousy way it treats their workers.

icenine 06-19-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 161457)
Singapore is a beautiful city. At least it was when I was there in '83 and again in '85.

Dave

I was there in 1991,2001, and 2006. It is still beautiful and clean, but the increase in population is very noticeable...especially on the subway, which I am sure you remember well. It is not amusement park clean (like Cedar Point if you have been there) like it was in 1991 though...too many people now.

I got really drunk at the Beer Garden in Little India in 2006....and I was walking past all of these places selling old audio gear....but I was not into vintage audio then dohh! I just walked on by....I do not know what I may have walked past.

BlueStreak 06-19-2013 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 161465)
I was there in 1991,2001, and 2006. It is still beautiful and clean, but the increase in population is very noticeable...especially on the subway, which I am sure you remember well. It is not amusement park clean (like Cedar Point if you have been there) like it was in 1991 though...too many people now.

I got really drunk at the Beer Garden in Little India in 2006....and I was walking past all of these places selling old audio gear....but I was not into vintage audio then dohh! I just walked on by....I do not know what I may have walked past.

And, if you had you would have wound up broke with nowhere to stash it all on the ship....................;) I remember being stupid enough to haul a bunch of gear aboard the Coral Sea thinking I would stash it in a void behind the shop. Speakers, amp, preamp, tape deck, turntable................everything. The amp alone, Denon POA1500 weighed nearly 40 lbs. My 1st Class told me no. He said I had to ship it all home. It cost me a fortune, (E3 at the time.), and they utterly destroyed my Dual CS627Q. The TT arrived in Ohio with the top smashed in like some a-hole had deliberately jumped up and down on it. Man, was I PO'ed!:mad:

Dave

icenine 06-19-2013 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 161482)
And, if you had you would have wound up broke with nowhere to stash it all on the ship....................;) I remember being stupid enough to haul a bunch of gear aboard the Coral Sea thinking I would stash it in a void behind the shop. Speakers, amp, preamp, tape deck, turntable................everything. The amp alone, Denon POA1500 weighed nearly 40 lbs. My 1st Class told me no. He said I had to ship it all home. It cost me a fortune, (E3 at the time.), and they utterly destroyed my Dual CS627Q. The TT arrived in Ohio with the top smashed in like some a-hole had deliberately jumped up and down on it. Man, was I PO'ed!:mad:

Dave

actually Dave I was on the Mercy..the hospital ship....
I had tons of space...
I flew off in Austraila and went back and got my duffle bag three months later when she came back to 32nd Street


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