Hannity on NSA - Then and Now
 

Ha!

That was funny!!

He just mis-spoke multitude of times.
The man has no credibility nor shame.
Next he will be ranting on YouTube about YouTube. :rolleyes:

Hannity is a mealy mouth sumbitch who wouldn't understand irony if it had him by testicles.;)

Note that he spouts the usual canard about Dems being weak on defense. Lincoln was the last republican president to win a war, in fact he was the sole republican president to win a war. Truth be know he should have let them go.

Biden

LMAO...

“Harry, I don’t have to listen to your phone calls to know what you’re doing,” Biden said. “If I know every single phone call you made, I’m able to determine every single person you talk to, I can get a pattern about your life that is very, very intrusive. And the real question here is: What do they do with this information that they collect that does not have anything to do with al Qaeda? There’s a whole deal when you talk about this kind of stuff, where the — under the law they’re supposed to demonstrate that they’re getting rid of and not keeping any extraneous information that they pick up on wiretaps and/or pick up in sweeps like this. And the president’s saying–I think I wrote down — he said, `this is not mining or trolling.’ If it’s true that 200 million Americans’ phone calls were monitored, in terms of not listening to what they said but to whom they spoke and who spoke to them, I don’t know, the Congress should investigate this.”

Video
http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/11/bi...-surveillance/

Been calling any known terrorists, lately?

Maybe all of this talk of listening in on possible insurrectionists has you TP types a little worried?

If so......Good.

You do know what the constitution requires the government to do to insurrectionists, don't you?

(Makes slicing motion across neck.):)

Dave

Hilarious! And, it does expose something about the essential nature of much of what has been going on, doesn't it?

Dave

Maybe if Obama gave Wayne pee-in-the-air a cabinet post Fox and their sheep, oops, the GOP, would turn on the NRA. :D


Carl

How do such pious and sanctimonious so-called Christian Conservatives get away with being such BLATANT LIARS?

Could it be because all of the religious bloviating is just a tool used to bamboozle the faithful?

I tend to think so.

Dave

I agree with you.

While he "saved the Union", look what it's become.

Chas

It looks like a union, with certain people relentlessy trying to provoke some shit.
I think they're asking for it and have wanted to pick this fight ever since Lincoln defeated the slave owners, got a bigger bug up their asses over LBJs legislation and now that the Dems have had the gall to elect a................well,

Ding, Ding!

Dave

Personally, I think the slaves were no more than a tool...after all Lincoln freed them in the South where he had no jurisdiction at the time, and left them in chains in the North where he had.

It was a political power struggle between two opposing factions, using slavery for the catalyst. Much as the cities and rural areas are engaged in now, only we don't have a neat dividing line such as the Mason Dixon.

And I'm also of the belief that slavery would have died a natural death in the South, much like everywhere else other than Africa, with the advent of the mechanical age.

And while I'm expanding on speculation, I suspect that the black race would have been better served than to be used for political purposes during Resconstruction as the means to enforce further control on the already disenfranchised South.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending slavery, far from it.

But if someone were to enforce their will on you to the point of shoving it up your ass sideways like this was handled, you'd have your great, great, great grandkids, teaching their grandkids, to hate their guts until the end of time.

The blacks were simply caught in the crossfire, and they're still there.

I'm not saying I'm right, simply offering an opposing viewpoint.

Chas

I think it is and has always been a struggle between the haves and the have nots. Only now, the haves have the have nots turned against each other over a few bucks an hour and who is "stealing" what from who. When in fact, it's the haves that are stealing from all of us under the absurd premise that all of the money they have, they've earned, it's theirs and we have no right to "steal" it from them....even when we we've worked for it. And, God knows, the lazy bastards aren't going to pick their own fucking cotton. Wouldn't in the 1850s and they aren't going to do it today, either.

See, the good Reverand told me as a young lad that the love of money is the root of all evil. But, I hear the GOP in particular has been trying to change that. We're supposed to believe "Greed is Good".............Well, so long as it's not us that's gettin' greedy, of course. When that happens they supposedly "have no choice" but to hire some Chinamen.

Dave

Slavery began because indigo was valuable but the source only grew in places that would eventually kill you so they could not pay people to pick it. How that differed from paying people starvation wages to work in the northern mills escapes me.

Which is why a lot of American Indians are screwed in the head but that's a different thread...

"I'm not saying I'm right, simply offering an opposing viewpoint."

Good for you. I happen to believe you're wrong.

Dave

But MO got the best of both worlds.....got to enter the union and keep their slaves. Many are still proud of that to this day....

Paul, Paul, Paul..........It wasn't about slavery, it was about Freedom and Gods will.

Or, maybe a priviledged few looked out at those thousands of acres or crops and considered the prosect of having to pay a fair wage to harvest it....or get off their pampered Julip sipping asses and do the work for themselves?

I think the latter seems more rooted in reality. But, that's just me. I'm crazy that way.

Anyhoo, there's no point in dredging up these 150 year old arguments, all of that is long gone............

Or, is it?

Dave

Ever been in someones home, a nice "normal" family home, and been showed the slave owners certificate that's been handed down through the generations, proudly framed and displayed hanging on the wall?

Probably the biggest difference was that slaves were expensive, and much like livestock needed a certain amount of care.

Now if some damned Irishman fell over dead at the loom, it was no big deal. Just have his replacement drag his cadaver to the street before he went on the clock.

As far as that goes, wasn't Ben Franklin an indentured servant who ran before his account was settled?

Trying to view the 1700's & 1800's through a 21st century prism doesn't work that well. The colors don't always come out as accurate as they should.

Chas

Can't say I have. But I did once have a coworker who told me that the slave shacks still stood out behind the family farmhouse. Said his forebearers maintained them as "a reminder of better times". He seemed to be a touch disgusted by it, but obviously everyone from his Dad on back didn't feel the same way.

See, slavery is like skeletons in the family closet. Everyone knows the truth, but we try not to talk about it because some of us have a billion "reasons" and excuses to dance all around it. The truth and all those light skinned folks runnin' around the old family homestead are just too much for a "Gentleman" to bear. The rest of us are too tired of their bullshit to argue with'em, so we let it slide. Straight up slavery is behind us now, so there really isn't much point to it.

However, it certainly does appear that some among us long for the days of cheap, compliant labor to scowl at from atop their high horses.

"...for lack of a better phrase, an employee is actually just a piece of equipment.". Remember that? I'm pretty sure I read it here.

Dave

Hell if it comes to that I was an indentured servant when I came down here on an H1B visa. Marrying Florence changed that and got me a green card. Why do you think Bill Gates and his buddies want unlimited H1Bs. There are plenty of citizens here who can do the work, they just want to be paid what they are worth.:rolleyes:

A-ha...........:rolleyes: