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whell 05-05-2013 09:03 AM

Screw Background Checks. Just print yourself a gun!
 
You'll need the right equipment and materials, but I think this fully demonstrates the folly of regulating / banning things, especially things that a would prompt a healthy black market to spring to life. Just think, instead of a still up in the hills 1920's Prohibition - style, you'd have a CAD and small manufacturing operation. The finished product would be a lot easier to conceal and transport, too.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygree..._medium=social

Will we ever learn?? :rolleyes:

merrylander 05-05-2013 09:08 AM

So the only solution is to become a civilized society of honest people.

Probably easier for the dish to run away with the spoon as the cow jumps over the moon.

JJIII 05-05-2013 09:19 AM

I think I hear the sound of a can of worms being opened.

BlueStreak 05-05-2013 10:11 AM

Here's your can of worms.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygree...table-guns-qa/

Dave

ebacon 05-05-2013 10:15 AM

Fear mongering.

The media played the same game with the story that Glocks were plastic and could get through metal detectors.

Man this shit is getting old.

BlueStreak 05-05-2013 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 156582)
You'll need the right equipment and materials, but I think this fully demonstrates the folly of regulating / banning things, especially things that a would prompt a healthy black market to spring to life. Just think, instead of a still up in the hills 1920's Prohibition - style, you'd have a CAD and small manufacturing operation. The finished product would be a lot easier to conceal and transport, too.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygree..._medium=social

Will we ever learn?? :rolleyes:

Great. Here comes the end of civilization.

I would think, just like any other electronic transmission, the source could be tracked down, hacked and blocked. Any illegal gun manufacturer would have to stay on the move to make it work, much like other terrorists must constantly change devices and IP adresses to avoid being tracked down. I guess it could be done, but it would be a PITA.

Dave

finnbow 05-05-2013 10:21 AM

These 3D guns are useless without a factory barrel.

BlueStreak 05-05-2013 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 156592)
These 3D guns are useless without a factory barrel.

It's been a while since I left the plastics processing business. But, in the 12 years I was in it I never met a resin capable of handling the repeated shock loads or heat that a decent gun would generate under heavy use without deforming at the very least. There would have to be a steel chamber and barrel of some sort.

I'm guessing this printable gun is a POS, good for one shot at best.

Dave

ebacon 05-05-2013 10:51 AM

I can see a nerf ball from my house! pew pew!

finnbow 05-05-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 156593)
It's been a while since I left the plastics processing business. But, in the 12 years I was in it I never met a resin capable of handling the repeated shock loads or heat that a decent gun would generate under heavy use without deforming at the very least. There would have to be a steel chamber and barrel of some sort.

I'm guessing this printable gun is a POS, good for one shot at best.

Dave

Anything other than a hardened steel barrel will not handle the 60,000 psi chamber pressures, nor will the rifling hold up to a projectile going through it at 3,000 fps.

As for the OP, I suppose he also supports legalizing crystal meth, as it is also possible to make it at home.

whell 05-05-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 156590)
Fear mongering.

The media played the same game with the story that Glocks were plastic and could get through metal detectors.

Man this shit is getting old.

You can't set up shop and make your own Glock, Ed.

whell 05-05-2013 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 156599)
Anything other than a hardened steel barrel will not handle the 60,000 psi chamber pressures, nor will the rifling hold up to a projectile going through it at 3,000 fps.

As for the OP, I suppose he also supports legalizing crystal meth, as it is also possible to make it at home.

Nope. I'm not among the liberal crowd looking to legalize drugs, Finn.

ebacon 05-05-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 156601)
You can't set up shop and make your own Glock, Ed.

What are you saying?

Anyone can set up shop and make metal guns. All the BATF had on David Koresh was that he had a lathe. We were supposed to be afraid of that, too.

Be afraid of lathes.
Be afraid of 3D modeling machines.
Be afraid of airplanes.
Be afraid of public gatherings.
Be afraid of Muslims.
Be afraid, be afraid, be afraid.

It's all Nietzschean bullshit coming out of the neocons. Their theory is that fear makes people work harder. Now they are probably on Wall Street monitoring web traffic to see who has the best defense against 3D modeling machines so they can cash in on the idea before they take the company public and dump the stupid crap on blue collar workers' 401k fund managers.

I'm sick of the f*ckers.

I bet they picked on Koresh because of his religion. Same with the way they are using the Bible Belt to further their agenda. Same with the way they are trying to paint the Amish in bad light with stupid TV shows like Breaking Amish. Same with the way they tricked the US military to further their agenda in the Middle East.

Amish? Really? What did the Amish ever do to anyone?

If the neocons think they will ever get another vote from me they have another thing coming. They can take their media, their TV cameras, their Ferraris, their whatever, and shove it.

finnbow 05-05-2013 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 156602)
Nope. I'm not among the liberal crowd looking to legalize drugs, Finn.

From your OP:

You'll need the right equipment and materials, but I think this fully demonstrates the folly of regulating / banning things, especially things that a would prompt a healthy black market to spring to life.

How is that any different from crystal meth? FWIW, kids have been able to build zip guns for decades now. Should we just let them buy pistols now without age limits or background checks? Your logic (or lack thereof) is pretty damned wobbly, Whell.

Zeke 05-05-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 156604)
Your logic (or lack thereof) is pretty damned wobbly, Whell.

At least it's consistent... :rolleyes:

ebacon 05-05-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 156605)
At least it's consistent... :rolleyes:

Zing! :D

finnbow 05-05-2013 01:11 PM

For that matter, the Boston bombers were able to build and detonate homemade bombs. I suppose Whell's logic would also call for now allowing dynamite and hand grenades to be sold in sporting goods stores without background checks. Feckin' brilliant.

ebacon 05-05-2013 01:13 PM

Git Some! :D

JJIII 05-05-2013 01:27 PM

Has Boreas hacked Pat's account?;)

finnbow 05-05-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJIII (Post 156609)
Has Boreas hacked Pat's account?;)

Nah, I'm just murderous on red herrings and straw men.

CarlV 05-05-2013 01:39 PM

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics..._130505_wg.jpg




"They want to fundamentally transform our country and they've just about finished the project," Beck told an audience of thousands Saturday evening at the NRA convention's Stand and Fight Rally in Houston, Texas. "They feel they must regulate us until we comply, but I will not comply."



http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/ima...ilies/lmao.gif



Carl

finnbow 05-05-2013 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlV (Post 156611)



"They want to fundamentally transform our country and they've just about finished the project," Beck told an audience of thousands Saturday evening at the NRA convention's Stand and Fight Rally in Houston, Texas. "They feel they must regulate us until we comply, but I will not comply."

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Carl

I'd bet a healthy sum that that dipshit would have no idea how to load and fire the gun he's holding (and that's exactly the kind of gun that actually is addressed by the Founders in the 2nd Amendment).

ebacon 05-05-2013 01:52 PM

Glenn Beck. Furthering the agenda of scribbling in our lawbooks under the guise of deregulation.

He's a breathing example of a demagnetized moral compass.

merrylander 05-05-2013 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 156603)
Amish? Really? What did the Amish ever do to anyone?

Built me two damn nice barns, a 16 x 24 for storage and the lawn tractor and an 8 x 10 as a carriage house for the golf cart.:)

merrylander 05-05-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 156610)
Nah, I'm just murderous on red herrings and straw men.

Want a match.:)

JJIII 05-05-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 156610)
Nah, I'm just murderous on red herrings and straw men.

No joke!:D

BlueStreak 05-05-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 156602)
Nope. I'm not among the liberal crowd looking to legalize drugs, Finn.

Then, what's this?

"I think this fully demonstrates the folly of regulating / banning things..."

I thought "banning things" is "folly"?:confused:

Dave

BlueStreak 05-05-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlV (Post 156611)
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics..._130505_wg.jpg




"They want to fundamentally transform our country and they've just about finished the project," Beck told an audience of thousands Saturday evening at the NRA convention's Stand and Fight Rally in Houston, Texas. "They feel they must regulate us until we comply, but I will not comply."



http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/ima...ilies/lmao.gif



Carl

Go ahead, Glenn. Take up arms against the U.S. Government. That will give us an excuse to kill you, you stupid bastard.

Dave

finnbow 05-05-2013 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 156619)
Go ahead, Glenn. Take up arms against the U.S. Government. That will give us an excuse to kill you, you stupid bastard.

Dave

He would have a much greater chance of shooing himself. I doubt he knows the difference between a muzzle and a butt plate. I love to see him shoot a scope-mounted .338 Win Mag. He'd look great with his forehead laid open.:eek:

whell 05-05-2013 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 156604)
From your OP:

You'll need the right equipment and materials, but I think this fully demonstrates the folly of regulating / banning things, especially things that a would prompt a healthy black market to spring to life.

How is that any different from crystal meth? FWIW, kids have been able to build zip guns for decades now. Should we just let them buy pistols now without age limits or background checks? Your logic (or lack thereof) is pretty damned wobbly, Whell.

Just one minor, minor little difference I guess. At least for now, owning a firearm is still legal. Owning crystal meth is not.

Also, it seems that federal firearms laws have not been effective to date at keeping guns put of the hands of kids. I've not tried recently, but I bet I could find some kids in possession of crystal meth. Why do you think that is, Finn?

whell 05-05-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 156618)
Then, what's this?

"I think this fully demonstrates the folly of regulating / banning things..."

I thought "banning things" is "folly"?:confused:

Dave

Has banning anything worked yet? Did banning alcohol work? What do you think banning handguns would accomplish?

BlueStreak 05-05-2013 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 156624)
Has banning anything worked yet? Did banning alcohol work? What do you think banning handguns would accomplish?

It would chafe the hell out of rednecks and wingnuts. And that' makes it all worth it for me. I just LOVE watching them lose. :p

Dave

bobabode 05-05-2013 06:31 PM

It's no wonder that libertarians want to legalize drugs. That way they can point and say, 'why regulate anything?'

I can hear 'em now, "You can pry my little penis extender out of my cold dead hands!" Friggin' jack offs.:rolleyes:

whell 05-05-2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 156630)
It's no wonder that libertarians want to legalize drugs. That way they can point and say, 'why regulate anything?'

Most libs want to legalize drugs too. That way they can point to the Libertarians and cheer them on.

bobabode 05-05-2013 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 156635)
Most libs want to legalize drugs too. That way they can point to the Libertarians and cheer them on.

Other than cannabis, I have to call bullshit on that one for several reasons, Whell.
Liberals want nothing to do with legalizing hard drugs. Overwhelmingly they see drug addiction as more of a health issue than a criminal issue. I don't have any idea where you're getting your info but the notion that liberals want to decriminalize drugs is just a crazy idea.

BlueStreak 05-05-2013 08:08 PM

Cannabis should not only be legal, but required.:p

Dave

bobabode 05-05-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 156643)
Cannabis should not only be legal, but required.:p

Dave

Dope will get you through times of....how did the rest of that go?:D

MikeG22 05-05-2013 09:47 PM

Maybe we can print some new congressmen and senators with one of those 3D printers. Would be about as effective of a government.

BlueStreak 05-05-2013 10:14 PM

And as smart.

JBS... 05-06-2013 07:56 AM

Seeing how there is legislation on the books that bans non-metal weapons already. What do you propose we do? A “Double Ban” :rolleyes:


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