Is the circus coming to your town?
 

The circus will start it's tour next week in Michigan but sadly will make no stops near my neighborhood. :(

"The Grand Rapids appearance will then be followed by appearances in Roanoke, Va.; Sioux Falls, S.D.; Sioux City, Iowa; Noblesville, Ind.; Washington, Pa. and Fort Bragg, N.C.

Chicago, Los Angeles and New York, all major media outlets, are not part of Palin's tour."


The tour is getting a kick off today as Levi will bear it all for playgirl.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...incidence.html

The women is a gift to comedy and I for one will enjoy every minute of it.

Come on love her or hate her, you gotta laugh at her. :D

The most amazing part of this is that this women thinks there are enough folks in this great country to make her king. Sorry Sarah you may get some support from the lunatics but all in all this county can see a side show for what it is, just a momentary curiosity.

Sarah is the Pied Piper of the GOP. She will keep marching them toward that cliff on the right edge of the world, as more and more of the smart ones jump out of line. It will be interesting to see how many of the right wing challenges to incumbent GOP congressmen she will support. Fortunately, she and her ilk might bring a fillibuster-proof senate Washington.

Regards,

D-Ray

Praying she is nominated in 2012 and again in 2016. Shoot, she's young, nominate her again in 2020.

I need to see if I can make the one in Roanoke! That would be a hoot! I'll make a sign, "Vote Palin in 2012! She has a nice ass!". Since there will be no "feminazis" there, it should be okay, right?

Dave

I tend to disagree.

Since there is not much difference between the Dems and the GOP on the national stage, she is simply offering conservatives, or those who have become tired of politics as usual, an alternative.

But who knows, you may be right...she may destroy the Republican Party. And, IMHO, should she do that, then it needed to be destroyed in the first place.

2008 was the Democrats year. I suspect 2010 may be different.

But I've been wrong before.

Chas

By saying that there is not much difference between the parties on the national stage, are you suggesting that the unanimity of the Republicans in opposition to the proposed healthcare bill is simply politics rather than policy?

To me, saying that Palin is just offering conservatives an alternative, really means that she wants to insure deadlock. Her block wants to put people in office who would not dream of compromising with the democrats in order to move forward in governance.

When I speak of "her" block or movement, I am using her as the symbol of the tea party/birthers and religious conservatives in the party, insofar as she is now the face of the movement. I see that movement as marginalizing the party, so whether you look at is as marginalizing or destroying the party, it's just a matter of degree.

I operate from the premise, with which you might agree, that the politics in the country had been on a general rightward swing for nearly thirty years. I include the Clinton years, because his success came from adopting a number of conservative positions as well as from his charisma. Certainly the eight years of Bush was a dramatic swing to the right with decreased respect for civil rights, spying on citizens, labelling opponents as traitors, cutting taxes and over-spending on militarism, stacking the courts with conservative activists, and adopting the language of religious conservatives.

I think the pendulum has swung as far to the right as possible. The majority of citizens were sick of seeing the special treatment that corporate America was receiving in Washington, they resented being spyed upon, and they had long grown weary of the excessive military spending. The people elected a President that was not nearly as liberal as the GOP tries to make him out to be, but who was a clean break from the Bush politics.

Now that pendulum is on the way to the center, the Palin wing is insisting on strict conformity with their conservative view. To enforce that conformity they are planning to defeat any republicans who might be inching toward the center.

I would have expected some loss of seats in 2010 as is ususal in off-year elections, but the actions from the Palin wing could serve to overcome the off-year lull for the party in power. The "silent majority" identified by Spiro Agnew was never as far to the right as the Palinites, and is unlikely to accept the strict party line that wing demands. If her strategy is successful within the GOP, it will also serve as a successful strategy for the democrats.

That's just the way I see it, but I am quite capable of being wrong. I just don't expect to be.:cool:

Regards,

D-Ray

History would suggest you are right. If the Republicans don't take over both houses of Congress it will be an indication that there is real trouble for them.

I do wish y'all would stop calling the Palinites 'conservatives', it they are conservatives then I am King of Romania (apologies to Dorothy Parker).

an alternative????:confused:


Chas she's an idiot. Seriously.

I guess I'm what you'd call a left winger. I'm certainly to the left of center. Palin doesn't worry me in the slightest as far as her ever getting elected to anything at the national level. None of this "our team, their team" crap where she's concerned except as far as my belief that she actually hurts the Republican party and their electoral chances in 2010 & 2012.

What does worry me is the possibility that her inflammatory rhetoric deepens the divide between Americans and might prompt some of her less stable supporters to acts of violence. She and the other right wing extremists in this country are playing with some serious fire and we've already seen quite a few sparks and even some brush fires.

There was the guy in Pittsburgh who killed three cops because right wing talkers had convinced him Obama was going to take his guns away.

There was also the guy in Tennessee who shot up a Unitarian church because it was as close as he felt he could come to killing all the liberals and gays on Bernard Goldberg's list of "100 People Who Are Screwing Up America".

There was the right winger in Maine who was building a dirty bomb but whose wife shot and killed him before he could do any harm.

There was the right winger who went on a murderous rampage at the DC Holocaust Museum.

And of course, there was Tim McVeigh who blew up the Federal office building in Oklahoma City so as to provoke an overreaction from the government, thus causing a right wing revolt a la "The Turner Diaries".

I could go on but I won't because I'm sure you get the idea.

So anyway, back to Palin. On balance I wish she'd disappear. Her negatives for the Republicans aren't worth her negatives for the country.

John

This is true.

But she's not feared because she is a Republican, she's feared because she's ignorant and insane. On second thought, maybe it is because she's a Rep............:D

Dave

I know a guy who went out and spent $1,400 buying ammo. Then he took the entire week of the election off because, "That mother fuckers gonna win. And I WILL be protecting MY family when he starts his n****r revolution. I'll be damned if they're making slaves out of my family!" Of course Obama won, and of course the "n****r revolution" never happened, because the entire notion was absurd. Jackass wasted a week of vacation holed up in his house, pissing himself over nothing. This same guy has informed me that "I pray every day that Palin runs and wins, 'cuz white America can't take anymore of this." He's also the guy who threatened my life when I told him I thought Gov. Kaine was a "fairly decent guy".

Sorry, but when I examine my mental image of the typical Palin supporter;-----This is what I see.

Sad, truly sad.

Dave

Maybe not typical but certainly numerous. Remember the campaign rallies Palin used to have with audience members shouting "traitor", "terrorist", "Muslim" and "kill him!"? I think these people are perfectly capable of using extreme violence against their fellow citizens for purely political reasons and with people like Palin pandering to their violent and hateful tendencies that violence is all but inevitable.

John

. . . simply trailer trash.

While waiting for "Are you being served" last evening I was passing time watching a rerun of Mad Max, and I suddenly got chills thinking, is this where we are heading?

I hear this all the time and it is just bullshit. No Dem is worried about her they are insulted by her an fascinated by her "Jerry Springer" appeal.
Very different than worried.

Do you really believe there is any scenario when she would be elected President?
I don't.
I don't even think she could be elected Governor again.
The only national office she might win would be a congressional district that is very backward.

ya think ;)

Does MPT still show those "Britcoms"? If so, it's another reason for me to head back East. We don't get them out here. I guess they're too last century for San Francisco.

(We do get Red Dwarf though.)

John

Actually, I do.

This country is full of people who are easily sucked in by by mindless hate and fearmongering. I know, hell, I'm related to some who've been itching to start shooting for decades. All they're looking for is the jackass politician who gives them the green light of legal impunity.

And before anyone launches into their tough guy redneck horseshit, I would have you know that I am armed and was trained by your government how to kill people. Just because my views lean to the left, doesn't mean I'm easy prey.
Think you're tough because you shoot squirrels and deer? Try shooting at something that shoots back, dickhead.

Have a nice Day!

Dave

Who's moving on up and laughing all the way to the bank.

Couldn't say I supported any one in the last election. But...Clinton and Bubba look pretty good to alot people right now. :)

Enertainers have always been amongest the best paid in America.

:eek:

When did that come from? :confused:


You might like this site:

http://www.fuckthesouth.com/

I posted this months ago but you were not here yet. It's more relevant today than it was in 2004 when it was posted. ;)

Still can't figure out the hatred directed against Palin. It's one thing to attack the policies of someone running for office but to attack her character as a person? I have yet to see a genius elected to ANY office in Washington. You read the papers...
I have yet to hear ANY male gone after so visciously here except the talking heads. Usually its a fat woman who sits on her a*s all day at a computer who attacks an attractive woman with a hunk of a supportive husband and beautiful kids. The election is over...ya got who you wanted...

Speaking for myself, she is an assault on all the values I have struggled so hard to impart on my children.

Attachment 71QUOTE=painter;10229]Who's moving on up and laughing all the way to the bank.

Couldn't say I supported any one in the last election. But...Clinton and Bubba look pretty good to alot people right now. :)[/QUOTE]

You?

Or have you been talked out of everything worth having too?
Been to Ruth's Chris to pay $100 for a half assed steak so Rush could get his advertisement money? Something about $4.25 a gallon gas makes you nostalgic for the Republican majority? And don't even try to give that "there is no tie" bullshit. They should change their name to the ReExxonican Party.

Bush and Clinton? Those two assclowns will never look good to me. No President we have had in my lifetime has been worth two hoots. Including Bonzos buddy. Maybe Ford, but he didn't have much time.

Have a Great Day, Painter!

Dave

You?

Or have you been talked out of everything worth having too?
Been to Ruth's Chris to pay $100 for a half assed steak so Rush could get his advertisement money? Something about $4.25 a gallon gas makes you nostalgic for the Republican majority? And don't even try to give that "there is no tie" bullshit. They should change their name to the ReExxonican Party.

Bush and Clinton? Those two assclowns will never look good to me. No President we have had in my lifetime has been worth two hoots. Including Bonzos buddy. Maybe Ford, but he didn't have much time.

Have a Great Day, Painter!

Dave[/QUOTE]

No dave...not me. I'm a Capitalist all the way.
I believe Grumpy said it best...read some of the former posts of a poster to get to know how they feel and what they believe in.
You have a great day also. :D

No, it's not sexism either. Yes, she is attractive. But she is also a moron. If we were hiring a stripper she would be a shoe in.

And, YES, I have seen a male "gone after so viciously".
He is relentlessly attacked every single day.
He was declared a miserable failure before the ballots were even counted.
He's been assigned every disparaging moniker known to man.

His name is Barrack Obama.

Have a Great Day!

Dave

You should set the example. The friends in school and what they do will ultimately make an impression. If you think otherwise...give up the TV and burn the newspapers. :)

"Pyramid of Capitalist System", issued by Nedeljkovich, Brashick and Kuharich, Cleveland: The International Publishing Co., 1911.



The Pyramid of Capitalist System is a provocative illustration of the hierarchical system of capitalist rule in America. In this beautifully colored portrait, the artist depicts the multiple tiers of working class oppression. At the top of the pyramid sits the state, which serves the interests of the ruling class and functions under capitalism as the protector of private wealth and property. Below the state stand the religious leaders, clergymen, and preachers of false consciousness who encourage obedience to and acceptance of the status quo, entreating the working masses to accept their ordained fate and seek their just rewards not on earth but in that glorious hereafter.

If obedience cannot be encouraged it will surely be enforced by the members of the next tier. As events in Homestead and Pullman clearly testified, the police and militia had as their objective not the protection of "the people," but rather the protection of capital from "the people." Beneath the military sit the parasite class, the bourgeoisie, who exploit the toilers of the world and profit by their labor power.

Beneath it all, bearing the weight of the entire system, are the workers who produce all things fundamental to the perpetuation of life and the continuation of this system. Thus, in addition to illustrating the multi-layered oppression and exploitation of workers, this image also begs the question, "what would happen to capitalism if the workers simply withdrew their support?"


http://www.laborarts.org/collections...cfm?itemid=428

I have no kids, (sadly). But the last sentence is exactly what I have done, to a large extent. Is amazing the thoughts that pop into your head when you free it up from as much of the BS as possible.

Dave

And in contemporary times, the upper tiers are deliberately weakening the bottom tier, with the bottom tiers full consent. Then everybody wonders why the pyramid is collapsing.

This is what I find astonishing.

Dave

So, you don't think all the "terrorist", "communist", "Nazi", "Muslim" and "illegal alien" crap being tossed at Obama, to say nothing of the "N-word" stuff, comes up to the level of what has been directed at Palin???? Come to think of it, Caribou Barbie is responsible for promoting, instigating and encouraging much of the hateful crap that has been hurled at Obama.

As far as I'm concerned, that b&*#h deserves worse than she's getting. She's a walking, talking affront to honesty, decency, tolerance, intellectual curiosity, public service, patriotism, REAL family values..... you get the point.

As far as geniuses holding elected office, there are quite a few, even some I disagree with but rather than give them props I'll just mention some I like. ;) In the White House there was Carter and Clinton and now we have Obama. Many others in other positions of elected office.

And what's up with that "fat woman" crap? Man, talk about inventing unflattering stereotypes to demonize the opposition! Bet you believe in those Cadillac-driving "welfare queens" St. Ronnie used to whine about too.

John

Did you miss my point? I did set the example. Then this boob comes along and is sold a s a role model for others. It was fine for my older kids because they were already on there own. The youngest was confused.

nice avatar, where did you get it? ;)

Sorry but I don't hate her and I simply do not understand all the people who say she is good looking., my 74 year old bride is better looking than she is. Street smart I will grant her, but genuine intelligence I will not. She lied when she claimed to have given back the money for the Bridge to Nowhere and insted built a Road to Nowhere with it. As has been noted by others she is not above rabble rousing either.

As to going after a male politico I guess you have never watched CNN's Situation Room with Blitzer and Jack whatsiname go after Obama.

:confused:


She would be chewed up and spit out in a NY minute in my hometown.
Guess that's why she avoids cities.

Smart can sometimes be dumb we're all guilty of that. LIES abound in Washington from all sides...I guess we all see what we are looking for. I just find condeming a person who's clearly out of the game is counter productive to any issues of this day and God knows...we have many. Your right I do not watch the talking heads as a rule and prefer to read. Looks like I rattled some cages out there. Say a prayer for our troops.:)

Palin is far from out of the game. She may not be a declared candidate for any particular office but she's definitely inserting herself into domestic politics in a big way with her speaking engagements, TV appearances and her book. She is determined to keep herself as close to center stage as possible.

John

you know this thread is about Sarah don't you?

là où il y a de colère il y a haine. Je n'ai aucun temps pour non plus.
au revoir mon ami aîné don' ; t abandonnent le bateau :)