The George W. Bush Center ...
 

... for Historical Revisionism just opened today in Dallas.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...b_story_1.html

Everytime I get upset about George I sort think well if he had not expanded the Federal Government with two wars in the Middle East with the concurrent rise in Civil Service employment I would not have a GS job with the DON.

I guess I am a neo-conservative after all. I guess I should just keep my mouth shut.
Like Nixon they will rehabilitate him. It is already starting...it was all Dick Cheney's fault.

"After 60-some years, we now have proof that W has set foot inside a library."

From the comments:rolleyes:

LOL! Now that's funny :)

Pete

No, it was all Obamas fault. Yeah, I know, he came after Bush. But, if he could have bombed government offices and spit on the troops when he was three and been bred and groomed for his presidency since before his birth he can be held responsible for all of Bushs eff-ups as well.

Dave

Ya know Dave the blame Bush argument was valid for the first few years of Obama's presidency, but now it is time to accept some of his own responsibility. He has been in office for awhile now and yeah he was dealt a shit hand. By this point, stop blaming Bush. IMO he was a silver spoon pres and a puppet but he hasn't been in office for almost six years.

Obama has had what I regard as triumphs in his time in office as well. I think the last two elections have shown the level of confidence the country has in the right. Plus, the amazing slate of candidates they have been putting up.

Bush got manipulated by Mossad agents.

I agree, Mike. But, something tells me Republicans will be blaming Obama for decades to come. Listen to how they still go on about Woodrow Wilson and Jimmy Carter, ferfuksake.................:rolleyes:

Dave

Oh yeah Wilson...wasn't he the the Federal Reserve and national graduated income tax guy?

get over it tea party low info types!

I think he was also the League of Nation President and most of all he wanted to bust the looming concentrations in financial institutions but got distracted by WW1.

Nah the League came at the close of the war. During the war he was busy making promises he couldn't keep ;)

Pete

I thought that was Rooosevelt?:confused:

You can see why the left would love him:

http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes...-liberal-thoug

Pete

Who said anything about "loving" Wilson. The point was the right still bitches about him..........And he's been out of office since 1920. 93 years later.

But suggest the GW left a mess five years ago and what do we hear?:rolleyes:

Dave

Or Reagan :p

Is it just me, or has this forum been particularly fun today?

Pete

Actually bro he wanted America to join it but faced opposition from Senate isolationsists...the consensus is that because Wilson refused to compromise with the Senate (IIRC Taft Republicans? It has been awhile since college) we never joined the League and thus it was way weaker without us and could not stop Hitler later on. Wilson was so above compromise he deep sixed the League even though he wanted us to join it.

Wilson was also very traditionally old Democratic in regards to the apatheid existing in the South at the time. His lillywhite policy of not interfering with Jim Crow gave him the support of the Southern states during his election campaigns.

Amazing, how racism is still used as a political tool after all of these years, isn't it?

Dave

It may interest some that, not only did he resegregate the White House (and believed in eugenics), he also used phrenology in the army intake system.

Eastern European folks ended up as the cooks and cleaners, the low rung.

This was not uncommon at the time. Even later Hitler was often seen as not being exactly wrong, just too, um, pushy. He was in many ways a product of the current intellasia-ish theories of his time.

Pete

Yes....although we have made great progress as a nation since then.....not perfect but great. The recent effort at voter suppression indeed effects people of color,even though the effort behind it may not be targeting skin color but rather what party a group is perceived to belong to. The terrible outcome and negative impact on our nation is the same however.

Presidents are a product of their times...the truly great ones.... Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt,FDR.....break the paradigm...or even just crack it.

It's just you.http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/ima...lies/jump3.gif:D

...and then they let the blacks in to steal those jobs.:rolleyes:

They still blame Carter and Clinton for all sorts of shit, not to mention Roosevelt and Johnson.

They seem to gloss over the fact that Jefferson was a Democrat. I guess being a "Founding Father" exempts him from the hatefest?

Dave

Theodore Roosevelt attempted some trust busting until he was stymied by the Supreme Court "Rule Of Reason".

Woodrow Wilson campaigned vociferously against the looming concentration of financial power. He was deflected by WW1

A read of FDR famous "Commonwealth Club Address(1932)" is instructive.

Is that the one where he welcomed their hatred?

No, that was a 1936 campaign speech. Very effective, too.

Dave

Commonwealth Club address;

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/l...p?document=447

Awesome stuff. I love reading FDRs speeches. Too bad I see no one in the current crop to match that. It truly is a sad thing.

Dave

Yep, he was an arrogant piece of crap elitist.

Then, thank goodness he's been out of office for 93 years. Can't really blame the arrogant, piece of crap, elitist for any of todays problems.....................Or do you?

Dave

"Faith in America, faith in our tradition of personal responsibility, faith in our institutions, faith in ourselves demand that we recognize the new terms of the old social contract. We shall fulfill them, as we fulfilled the obligation of the apparent Utopia which Jefferson imagined for us in 1776, and which Jefferson, Roosevelt and Wilson sought to bring to realization. We must do so, lest a rising tide of misery, engendered by our common failure, engulf us all. But failure is not an American habit; and in the strength of great hope we must all shoulder our common load."

After reading two thirds of it, I skipped to the end:o.

It strikes me that something has changed for the worse in this great country of ours. The disparity in sharing of our collective labor has gone to the top 1% while the masses labor at a greater productivity than ever before. Meanwhile their cut has remained flat, in reality it has taken three steps back if inflation is factored into the equation. In addition, the worker's hard won right to collective bargaining has been gutted by fiat and base propaganda.

Wilson was hardly a progressive when it came to race...but sadly neither was the rest of the nation at that time. I am glad we have a Federal Reserve to regulate and stimulate our economy ( we would not be major economic power without stable Federal credit and monetarism) and a graduated income tax. I would not throw Wilson completely under the bus.
He did bring us into World War I, and the USA did in fact tip the balance and help end the war. That war killed millions if you do not know. So he was not all bad. Not like Bush anyway;)
One guest was conspicuously absent today in Texas....the 800 pound gorilla.

BTW what all dem Presidents doing in Texas?

Isn't Texas an Independent Republic with its own money?

Don't pick on 'em, Don. :DThem 'ho down' lovin' idjits cain't help themselves.;) Besides, they like the attention...:rolleyes:

The "Decisions Points Theater" exhibit sounds like a cynical exercise in revisionism dressed up as family entertainment. They feed you partial information of the circumstances surrounding several of his big controversial decisions (they obviously don't have the time or resources to feed you other than partial information, not to mention the obvious national security issues if they gave you the real skinny) and you have 4 minutes to make your decision on the issue. I gotta believe it's weighted to rationalize the dreadful decisions he made.

Do they have a "Decider Theater" wherein you get to point your finger and shout at 80 year-old Jewish women? How about a "Shame on you...Theater", wherein you have 4 minutes to correct his faux pas? Maybe they could have a shoe toss gallery?:p

Dave

Did you read that quote? It's the basis for the ascendancy of government today - the Consititution is meaningless because it's hard to change. Sound familiar?

The hypocritical slaveowning freedom lover? But they expected slavery to die naturally. Wilson was a happy racist many many years later.

Pete

The only reason the northern colonies agreed to the 3/5th of a person crap was that they either hung together of would hang separately. Gouvernor Morris of Pennsylvania referred to slavery as "an abomination before God".

I might be wrong Pete, but I think you made excuses for the hyprocrite Winston Churchill....re his staunch opposition to Indian Independence.

Not I :)

Pete