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finnbow 12-04-2012 08:41 PM

GOP establishment vs. Tea Party - Round One
 
" ... Boehner's decision to take plum committee assignments away from four conservative Republican lawmakers after they bucked party leaders on key votes isn't going over well with advocacy groups that viewed them as role models.

Reps. Tim Huelskamp of Kansas and Justin Amash of Michigan will lose their seats on the House Budget Committee chaired by Rep. Paul Ryan next year. And Reps. Walter Jones of North Carolina and David Schweikert of Arizona are losing their seats on the House Financial Services Committee.

The move is underscoring a divide in the Republican Party between tea party-supported conservatives and the House GOP leadership."


http://news.yahoo.com/gop-leaders-re...--finance.html

This comes on the heels of Dick Armey resigning from FreedomWorks, "one of the leading national groups to take credit for training, organizing and funding the tea party."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...9c5_story.html

Meanwhile, Norquist is saying that the Tea Party will strengthen considerably if the Fiscal Cliff negotiations go poorly. It seems to me that the GOP and the Tea Party don't know whether to shit or go blind.

bobabode 12-04-2012 08:44 PM

I favor that they do both, it's what they're good at. Shittin' blindly.:D

ebacon 12-04-2012 08:49 PM

This situation reminds me of when Ross Perot's party died of infighting. At the time I could not understand what was going on. All I knew was that I was sad to see Ross get pushed out.

Now that I am a bit older I can clearly see that there are several brands of conservatives and the Republican party does not like them all. But they sure as hell will take all their votes.

CarlV 12-04-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 137706)

Now that I am a bit older I can clearly see that there are several brands of conservatives and the Republican party does not like them all. But they sure as hell will take all their votes.

The level of blind brand loyalty the public shows just blows my mind. It is past time to just say no.

What I really don't get is how someone votes for somebody who has already pledged to put the interests of others before your own needs. :confused:


Carl

icenine 12-04-2012 09:09 PM

All politics are local....all Congress members are worthless except my representative.

icenine 12-04-2012 09:19 PM

Moreover when they keep using the debt ceiling as a wedge they are threatening the power of the Congress itself. If Obama was successful in using the 14th Amendment to overrule the Congressional limit the Republicans would be asking themselves just what in the world did they do. Especially if that did indeed avoid another credit downgrade. Legal quibbles by Courts would seem quaint in comparison to the United States credit worthiness being preserved.

Boreas 12-04-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 137711)
All politics are local....all Congress members are worthless except my representative so long as I voted for her.

Fixed it.

John

whell 12-04-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 137701)
" ... Boehner's decision to take plum committee assignments away from four conservative Republican lawmakers after they bucked party leaders on key votes isn't going over well with advocacy groups that viewed them as role models.

Reps. Tim Huelskamp of Kansas and Justin Amash of Michigan will lose their seats on the House Budget Committee chaired by Rep. Paul Ryan next year. And Reps. Walter Jones of North Carolina and David Schweikert of Arizona are losing their seats on the House Financial Services Committee.

The move is underscoring a divide in the Republican Party between tea party-supported conservatives and the House GOP leadership."


http://news.yahoo.com/gop-leaders-re...--finance.html

Justin Amash is probably someone you might have found common ground with. He believed that defense spending should be on the table in any discussion about reducing government spending.

bobabode 12-04-2012 10:37 PM

Here's a fun fact- recent PPP poll finds that 49% of Republicans believe that Acorn stole the election for Obama!:eek: Can they be a more of an ignorant and insane political party? ACORN has been out of business since 2010, that's when they filed for bankruptcy. BTW, to be fair - that's down from 52% for the 2008 election.:rolleyes: Keep it up, idjits. Drink that tea deeply, bathe in it...:D

Rex E. 12-04-2012 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 137722)
Justin Amash is probably someone you might have found common ground with. He believed that defense spending should be on the table in any discussion about reducing government spending.

It should be the very first thing on the table and cut first before anything else can even be tabled.....

icenine 12-04-2012 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 137714)
Fixed it.

John

Bono? I did not vote for her....I was making the point that people generally think Congress are idiots except for their guy or gal lol:)

icenine 12-04-2012 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 137726)
Here's a fun fact- recent PPP poll finds that 49% of Republicans believe that Acorn stole the election for Obama!:eek: Can they be a more of an ignorant and insane political party? ACORN has been out of business since 2010, that's when they filed for bankruptcy. BTW, to be fair - that's down from 52% for the 2008 election.:rolleyes: Keep it up, idjits. Drink that tea deeply, bathe in it...:D

Hey bro that is not true Acorn is broadcasting on the tin foil wavelength...put on your hat!:D

bobabode 12-05-2012 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 137734)
Hey bro that is not true Acorn is broadcasting on the tin foil wavelength...put on your hat!:D




Huh, what?:confused:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...ults-well.html

"One reason that such a high percentage of Republicans are holding what could be seen as extreme views is that their numbers are declining. Our final poll before the election, which hit the final outcome almost on the head, found 39% of voters identifying themselves as Democrats and 37% as Republicans. Since the election we've seen a 5 point increase in Democratic identification to 44%, and a 5 point decrease in Republican identification to 32%."

icenine 12-05-2012 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 137735)

Acorn is really not out of business...it is a conspiracy;)

Boreas 12-05-2012 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 137733)
Bono? I did not vote for her....I was making the point that people generally think Congress are idiots except for their guy or gal lol:)

I wasn't thinking of anyone in particular.

John


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