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BlueStreak 11-01-2009 01:45 AM

Aliens, is there a cover-up?
 
I'm kinda sure there is. As a "sometimes" amateur astronomer I've spent many hours looking at the sky and I've seen some strange stuff.

How about you?

Dave

noonereal 11-01-2009 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 8547)
I'm kinda sure there is. As a "sometimes" amateur astronomer I've spent many hours looking at the sky and I've seen some strange stuff.

Seeing strange stuff in the sky and equating that to aliens is a Herculean leap.

hillbilly 11-01-2009 02:43 AM

Couple weeks ago, well after dark walking our house dog out here in the sticks I saw circling lights going round and round up in the air with no sound .. and slowly landed in the woods. I came in the house to tell what I saw and my wife and kids went out to see, and the lights were still going round on the ground, in the woods here were folks are spaced apart in the sticks.

So, I hop on the four wheeler and head up the holler over the next hill and seen the old trail was blocked off. Few folks were there,but nobody going in, I didn't ask 'em nothing, I just turn around and went on back home. I figured the less I knew, the less likely I'd be hushed up to, lol ... ain't that how it works with strange sightings? Next morning my son texed me on the buss sayin' the folks up the hollers kids got on the buss and said a real cool country music video shoot took place in the woods on the farm beside them :D

merrylander 11-01-2009 07:32 AM

If there is any intelligent life out there I would imagine they would be intelligent enough to stay away.

Sandy G 11-01-2009 07:58 AM

Unless we prove tasty...remember the old Twilight Zone episode, "To Serve Man" ?!?

BlueStreak 11-01-2009 08:27 AM

Once, in broad daylight, I saw something pretty friggin weird. I stepped out of my pickup at the local Food Lion, and saw a small crowd of people looking up at the sky. I asked what tey were looking at and a woman pointed up and said "Just watch that thing.". Turning to look I saw a silver object, not quite round, kinda squashed at the poles, way up high just hanging in the air, completely silent. I said, "Blimp, so what?". "Just watch." a man says. After a minute or so this thing took off, and I mean it was MOVING! Hauling ass faster than I've ever seen anything move, from a dead stop. It went halfway across the sky, made a 90 degree, and I mean a perfect right-angle, no arc turn without slowing down and kept going until it was gone from view.

The woman looked at me and said "I don't want to know." And the crowd dispersed.

That was some weird stuff, Dudes.

Dave

BlueStreak 11-01-2009 08:31 AM

Oh, and if there is a cover-up, I'm sure Obama is behind it.

He's an Alien whose come here to disarm us and turn us into a food source.

Yeah, that's what it is!

Damn Democrats!

Dave

Sandy G 11-01-2009 08:45 AM

Bingo, Buddy ! (grin) For something that "There's nothing to it" there sure is an awful lot of smoke, if not any real fire... But I don't know what the big deal is, if there IS something to it...If the Gummint came out tomorrow & said, "Yep, they're real, all right. Been here since 1897, anyway. We been working w/them since '47, & most of the stuff we now take for granted is their technology...." I'd kinda go-"So what ? Ain't gonna change nothin'...Still gotta get up tomorrow. My wife'll still go into the VA hospital, its her job. I'll still get on here, & spew out anti-Obama venom, & unless one of 'em shows up here, wanting my guns or radios & TVs, I ain't got no problem w/it..." (grin)

d-ray657 11-01-2009 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 8562)
Unless we prove tasty...remember the old Twilight Zone episode, "To Serve Man" ?!?

It's a cookbook!!:eek::eek:

BlueStreak 11-01-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 8573)
Bingo, Buddy ! (grin) For something that "There's nothing to it" there sure is an awful lot of smoke, if not any real fire... But I don't know what the big deal is, if there IS something to it...If the Gummint came out tomorrow & said, "Yep, they're real, all right. Been here since 1897, anyway. We been working w/them since '47, & most of the stuff we now take for granted is their technology...." I'd kinda go-"So what ? Ain't gonna change nothin'...Still gotta get up tomorrow. My wife'll still go into the VA hospital, its her job. I'll still get on here, & spew out anti-Obama venom, & unless one of 'em shows up here, wanting my guns or radios & TVs, I ain't got no problem w/it..." (grin)

Put as simply as I can, Sandy.

The answer to your question "...what the big deal is..."; The Big Deal is-------religion. The same mentality that used to persecute people for saying the earth isn't flat, and the earth isn't the center of the universe. The same people who think earthquakes are caused by anal sex.

IMHO, the answer to your question is narrow minded imbeciles, Sandy.

Dave

noonereal 11-01-2009 09:54 AM

If alien life is traveling to us they are here for only one reason, resources.
Whatever that may be to them.

All life forms us other lifeforms energy for their own energy if the can. In fact they look for ways to. Why would life forms from other planets be benevolent? The stupidest thing I have ever heard. If they were here they would be here to benefit themselves.

BlueStreak 11-01-2009 09:57 AM

All I'm trying to say is this; If we exist, then why is it so hard to believe that there can be life elsewhere in the universe? If the odds are a trillion to one that there is another star with another planet rotatin' about it that can sustain life-----then it is definitely out there.

Dave

BlueStreak 11-01-2009 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 8595)
If alien life is traveling to us they are here for only one reason, resources.
Whatever that may be to them.

All life forms us other lifeforms energy for their own energy if the can. In fact they look for ways to. Why would life forms from other planets be benevolent? The stupidest thing I have ever heard. If they were here they would be here to benefit themselves.

Maybe they're not benevolent? Maybe the time for "harvest" just hasn't arrived yet?

They're waiting for word from Obama?:D

Dave

merrylander 11-01-2009 10:48 AM

Even if you are very religious, what would have prevented God from looking upon us as a failed experiment and so He started all over somewhere else in another galaxy.:rolleyes:

noonereal 11-01-2009 11:20 AM

There is likely life on other planets in our solar system and intelligent life in our galaxy.

Sandy G 11-01-2009 11:25 AM

Why would God have created the whole cosmos & only had something called "life" form on this one small, backwards jerkwater of a planet ? And I can't see how it takes away from the "Majesty" of God for Him to have made life in LOTS of places. But maybe "sentient" life-Navel-gazers, if you will-IS fairly rare. After all, of ALL the many different types of life here, apparently WE'RE the only type that does. I dunno-If there IS another Earth-type planet somewhere, I'd like to go to THEIR 1954 & buy up a bunch of CT-100s...Take 'em a bunch of OUR POS LCDs & plasmas...Swap 'em a bunch of THEIR 1933 Duesenbergs for a couple 2010 Mercedes 500SELs...My damn luck, though, the CT-100s would be 220 volts or something, & their Doozies would be 2' long...

BlueStreak 11-01-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 8601)
Even if you are very religious, what would have prevented God from looking upon us as a failed experiment and so He started all over somewhere else in another galaxy.:rolleyes:

'cuz he doesn't make mistakes.

Ummmm, ever seen a platypus?

Dave

Sandy G 11-01-2009 12:30 PM

I rather doubt the Platypus considers himself a mistake....(grin)

BlueStreak 11-01-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 8610)
I rather doubt the Platypus considers himself a mistake....(grin)

Touche'.

I am as wierd as the platypus and I consider myself to be the only sane person in a world gone insane.

Dave

JJIII 11-01-2009 04:34 PM

"the only sane person in a world gone insane."


Me and you both!!!....???

merrylander 11-02-2009 06:59 AM

There is only thee and me and I am none to sure about thee.

Boreas 11-02-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 8595)
If alien life is traveling to us they are here for only one reason, resources.
Whatever that may be to them.

All life forms us other lifeforms energy for their own energy if the can. In fact they look for ways to. Why would life forms from other planets be benevolent? The stupidest thing I have ever heard. If they were here they would be here to benefit themselves.

You're like the general in the '50s sci-fi flick who has his artillery fire on the saucer because - hey, ya never know - they might not wanna make friends. :)

I grant you that it's hard to think outside the box of what motivates us as a species but I believe it's a mistake to assume that an alien (in every sense of the word) species would operate in accordance with the same imperatives as we do. In all the universe there are simply no.... universals.

Also, there are ways and there are ways to use the energy of other living things. Not all are parasitic, predatory or otherwise destructive of the life form being so used. Many are beneficial to all involved.

John

HatchetJack 11-02-2009 05:05 PM

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Sandy G 11-02-2009 05:13 PM

"ALL YOUR BASE BELONG TO US...." Gaaaaaaack !!

painter 11-02-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 8748)
You're like the general in the '50s sci-fi flick who has his artillery fire on the saucer because - hey, ya never know - they might not wanna make friends. :)

I grant you that it's hard to think outside the box of what motivates us as a species but I believe it's a mistake to assume that an alien (in every sense of the word) species would operate in accordance with the same imperatives as we do. In all the universe there are simply no.... universals.

Also, there are ways and there are ways to use the energy of other living things. Not all are parasitic, predatory or otherwise destructive of the life form being so used. Many are beneficial to all involved.

John


Exactly!

Boreas 11-02-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HatchetJack (Post 8751)

So, is this what Heston looks like now? ;)

John

noonereal 11-03-2009 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 8748)
You're like the general in the '50s sci-fi flick who has his artillery fire on the saucer because - hey, ya never know - they might not wanna make friends. :)

I am? In what way? Maybe you are assuming to much from one post.

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I grant you that it's hard to think outside the box
Actually my thought is outside the box of the popular belief although it is share by a large number in the scientific community.


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of what motivates us as a species but I believe it's a mistake to assume that an alien (in every sense of the word) species would operate in accordance with the same imperatives as we do.

and you base this on what? Why should we assume intelligent life from another world would be different than all life forms here? It's seems an odd leap you are making.

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In all the universe there are simply no.... universals.
Well we do know life is energy and in order to sustain energy (life force) all species convert other species energies for their own. Even things we do not consider life forms like stars charge material into energy to sustain itself.

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Also, there are ways and there are ways to use the energy of other living things. Not all are parasitic, predatory or otherwise destructive of the life form being so used.
Did I say otherwise?

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Many are beneficial to all involved.

Let's hope this is the case if intelligent life ever comes here.


Yes, anything is possible but the general thought that a an alien life form would be benevolent by nature although possible is similar to the leap of faith we make in following organized religion. It's possible but not probable.

In fact your thoughts are the ones not outside the box. ;)

noonereal 11-03-2009 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by painter (Post 8756)
Exactly!

Another well though out post. :p

elwood127 11-04-2009 09:52 AM

I'm a firm believer that earth is the galactic tourism destination. We are the ultimate zoo. We have quaint little wars. Auto racing. Water. Either that or field trips for school kids to observe how not to treat your planet.

BlueStreak 11-04-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by elwood127 (Post 8956)
I'm a firm believer that earth is the galactic tourism destination. We are the ultimate zoo. We have quaint little wars. Auto racing. Water. Either that or field trips for school kids to observe how not to treat your planet.

Exactly!

Right now, the're up there in the mothership, smoking a joint, watching our government and laughing their asses off.

Dave

BlueStreak 11-04-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 8766)
So, is this what Heston looks like now? ;)

John


Didn't Heston take a petition to Richard Nixon demanding STRICTER gun controls back in '68-'69, Boreas?

Must have been before the NRA offered him a job as their spokesman?

As I've said before,
"Careful choosing actors as your heroes, they've made their careers pretending to be something they're not.":D

He's probably an alien to boot..............

Dave

merrylander 11-04-2009 11:59 AM

Funny, the only person I ever saw Heston portraying on screen was himself.

piece-itpete 11-04-2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 8558)
If there is any intelligent life out there I would imagine they would be intelligent enough to stay away.

Lmao!!

As an old SF nut I like the thought of other sentinent beings.

But even considering the infinite nature of the universe, life here is so amazingly fragile. One massive explosion on the sun (among infinite other potentially horrible things) and pffft! goodbye Earth as a nursery.

And if it's a cover up it's a darn good one.

Not saying there ain't ....

Pete

Boreas 11-04-2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas
You're like the general in the '50s sci-fi flick who has his artillery fire on the saucer because - hey, ya never know - they might not wanna make friends. ;)
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Originally Posted by Noonereal
I am? In what way? Maybe you are assuming to much from one post.
Please note ;). It was a joke.

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Originally Posted by Boreas
I grant you that it's hard to think outside the box
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Originally Posted by Noonereal
Actually my thought is outside the box of the popular belief although it is share by a large number in the scientific community.
Can you offer any support for that?

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Originally Posted by Boreas
of what motivates us as a species but I believe it's a mistake to assume that an alien (in every sense of the word) species would operate in accordance with the same imperatives as we do.
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Originally Posted by Noonereal
and you base this on what? Why should we assume intelligent life from another world would be different than all life forms here? It's seems an odd leap you are making.
I think it's you who is making a leap here. I'm not saying that we shouldn't assume alien life forms will share our motivations, etc. I'm saying we should make no assumptions either way.

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Originally Posted by Boreas
In all the universe there are simply no.... universals.
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Originally Posted by Noonereal
Well we do know life is energy and in order to sustain energy (life force) all species convert other species energies for their own. Even things we do not consider life forms like stars charge material into energy to sustain itself.
That's actually not true. Ever hear of "black smokers"? They're deep undersea vents which support unique life forms. Some of those life forms have evolved to derive all of their nourishment from the chemicals contained in the material vented into the water. (They've also evolved to live at incredibly high temperatures and pressures and a complete absence of light but that's another story.) The process is called chemosynthesis and was unknown until the discovery of the vents around thirty years ago.

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Originally Posted by Boreas
Also, there are ways and there are ways to use the energy of other living things. Not all are parasitic, predatory or otherwise destructive of the life form being so used.
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Originally Posted by Noonereal
Did I say otherwise?
No, but I didn't say you did.

John

Boreas 11-04-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 8789)
Another well though out post. :p

Hmmmm.......

Boreas 11-04-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 8972)
Didn't Heston take a petition to Richard Nixon demanding STRICTER gun controls back in '68-'69, Boreas?

Never heard that one but it wouldn't surprise me.

John

Boreas 11-04-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 8973)
Funny, the only person I ever saw Heston portraying on screen was himself.

"Get your hands off me, you damned dirty LIBERAL!"

"Soylent Green is LIBERALS!"

John

Sandy G 11-04-2009 01:36 PM

I must be slippin'....None of you wahoos took my post(s) to task 'n' dissected it line by line, as is yr Modus Operandi...(grin)

piece-itpete 11-04-2009 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 8995)
I must be slippin'....None of you wahoos took my post(s) to task 'n' dissected it line by line, as is yr Modus Operandi...(grin)

I live to serve, Sandy:


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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 8573)
Bingo,

Oh yeah??! Read'em off.

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 8573)
Buddy !

Says who.

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 8573)
For

Against.

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 8573)
something

No way.

.......


:D

Pete

Fast_Eddie 11-04-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 8976)
And if it's a cover up it's a darn good one.

No kidding. We think they can't handle health care? Sheesh.


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