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icenine 09-17-2012 09:32 PM

He may be done......
 
I cannot see him coming back from this....I pray that I am right. I knew when he dogged the cookie maker he was not suited for office. He proved it tonight...

Boreas 09-17-2012 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 124245)
I cannot see him coming back from this....I pray that I am right. I knew when he dogged the cookie maker he was not suited for office. He proved it tonight...

What did I miss?

John

d-ray657 09-17-2012 09:55 PM

"What did I miss?"

A video from a Romney fundraiser where he labels 47% of the electorate as victims and so wedded to their entitlements that he doesn't care about getting their votes.

Regards,

D-Ray

mezz 09-17-2012 10:06 PM

Not sure what the problem is. Is he wrong? Why would he care about losing people who identify themselves as being 'wedded to entitlements'? ... and any digbats out there who are still on the Obama bandwagon aren't going to suddenly vote for a rational and/or viable candidate instead, now are they.

barbara 09-17-2012 10:16 PM

I imagine some of the 47% are republicans receiving their social security entitlements.


Aside from that, it was just a stupid thing for a presidential candidate to say.

icenine 09-17-2012 10:43 PM

I think the press conference he had was a disaster....maybe it is just me but he looks desperate

BlueStreak 09-17-2012 10:45 PM

Yeah, he is wrong. And, so are you.

The difference is he knows what he's up to and YOU DON'T.

The difference is snakes like Romney have figured out how to make fortunes off of putz's like you. It's really very easy. With a little he-man hullabaloo and pseudo-patriotic flag-waiving, they can talk you into giving up whatever they want from you. They have perfected methods of making you feel ashamed of yourself for expecting anything of them.

Go off to fight the wars they start? F**k that, that's for "Little People" like Mezz. Pay taxes? "Whoooooaaaaaa, just you hold on there, Mister! How dare you punish my success? No, no. Paying taxes is for the little people too. You will give ME AND ALL OF MY FELLOW PLUTOCRATS a tax CUT and if it puts a dent in the budget, that's okay, I'll just slick talk that Putz Mezz and his ilk into giving up their Medicare. After all "real Americans and true patriots" don't accept "handouts" anyways....................."

See how that works?

That's you.

Dave

BlueStreak 09-17-2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbara (Post 124253)
I imagine some of the 47% are republicans receiving their social security entitlements.


Aside from that, it was just a stupid thing for a presidential candidate to say.

Right, but they refuse to admit it. Why, what would their friends think?:rolleyes:

BlueStreak 09-17-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icenine (Post 124256)
I think the press conference he had was a disaster....maybe its just me but he looks desperate

That's exactly what it is. It's coming down to the last few weeks, and they are NOT seeing the lead they expected to have by now. The delusional arrogance is wearing off and reality is setting in.

As it sits, who knows? It could still go either way. But, to a self assured and deeply conceited pig head like Romney, who can't fathom why the whole world doesn't just adore him and his party it just doesn't make sense that he isn't already 30 points ahead.......It MUST be that everyone is too stupid to see that he really is our saviour. Must be that we're all just a bunch of stupid begging dogs, sniffing for a handout.:rolleyes:

Dave

bobabode 09-17-2012 11:15 PM

WTF is a digbat mssr. messie? It's dingbat, you twit. If you're gonna call me names at least spell them right, dipshit.:p

icenine 09-17-2012 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 124259)
That's exactly what it is. It's coming down to the last few weeks, and they are NOT seeing the lead they expected to have by now. The delusional arrogance is wearing off and reality is setting in.

As it sits, who knows? It could still go either way. But, to a self assured and deeply conceited pig head like Romney, who can't fathom why the whole world doesn't just adore him and his party it just doesn't make sense that he isn't already 30 points ahead.......It MUST be that everyone is too stupid to see that he really is our saviour. Must be that we're all just a bunch of stupid begging dogs, sniffing for a handout.:rolleyes:

Dave

The most damning thing is the way he just dismisses the 47% who he thinks will not vote for him no matter what...like he is not going to be their President after he wins.....

wgrr 09-17-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 124252)
Not sure what the problem is. Is he wrong? Why would he care about losing people who identify themselves as being 'wedded to entitlements'? ... and any digbats out there who are still on the Obama bandwagon aren't going to suddenly vote for a rational and/or viable candidate instead, now are they.

Mezz do you really believe that Democrats are the ones who leech off of the system??

I do not consider SS or Medicare which I have payed into for years as an entitlement. I payed for it and it is an earned benefit. If it is good enough for McCain it is good enough for me. Romney /Ryan want to take it away from me. That puts them in my asshole category.

Back to Romney. He is an out of touch, selfish bastard, who could give a fuck about 98% of the people in this country. I am betting you are included in this category.

You are totally brainwashed. A rational and viable candidate, are you kidding. He is a bumbler at even the simplest Presidential tasks. He totally failed in the most recent crisis, despite the fact that the Obama administration kept his staff full apprised of the situation in the Mideast.

Back to the government leeches. Most all of them vote R and live in red states. They love them some food stamps because working at Wal-mart, almost full time, just does not pay the bills.

The fact is mezz, most people that get "welfare" don't vote at all. So why does Romney say that 47% of the people that vote for Obama are sucking off the government tit.

I voted for him in 08. I don't suck off the government tit. As a matter of fact, I sent a check in to the IRS today for $2000 because of a miscalculation in April. Got it? I pay my taxes! Mittens shelters his and gets special tax rates. I would not give you a plug nickel for that son of a bitch.

CarlV 09-17-2012 11:41 PM

Quote:

COSTA MESA, Calif. — Mitt Romney held a hastily arranged press conference here to engage in damage control hours after a video surfaced that showed him at a private May fundraiser describing 47 percent of the country as “dependent upon the government.”

The GOP nominee for president defended his remarks — first printed in the liberal magazine Mother Jones — while conceding they were not “elegantly stated.”
“I am sure I can state it more clearly and effectively than I did in a setting like that,” he told reporters assembled quickly at the Segerstrom Center for the Arts before attending a fundraiser.

Romney said the video didn’t fully capture his views or his entire comments about personal responsibility and the role of government in society.

“I am talking about a political process of drawing people in my campaign. … My campaign is about helping people take more responsibility,” Romney said.

“This is ultimately a question about the direction of the country. Do you believe in a government-centered society that provides more and more benefits? Or do you believe instead in a free-enterprise society where people are able to pursue their dreams?”
Romney was responding to the furor surrounding the release of a surreptitiously taped video of him speaking at a closed-door, $50,000-a-person fundraiser describing 47 percent of voters as non-taxpayers so dependent on government services that they’re bound to vote for President Barack Obama in November.

“There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it,” Romney appears to be saying in the video.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz26nEyzIkp


Step in it once then turn right around and step in it again. And again....

Real presidential that guy. :p


Carl

bobabode 09-17-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 124259)
That's exactly what it is. It's coming down to the last few weeks, and they are NOT seeing the lead they expected to have by now. The delusional arrogance is wearing off and reality is setting in.

As it sits, who knows? It could still go either way. But, to a self assured and deeply conceited pig head like Romney, who can't fathom why the whole world doesn't just adore him and his party it just doesn't make sense that he isn't already 30 points ahead.......It MUST be that everyone is too stupid to see that he really is our saviour. Must be that we're all just a bunch of stupid begging dogs, sniffing for a handout.:rolleyes:

Dave

They're turning on Romney's campaign manager now. It's that Ayn Randian and The Donald management style Romney so admires. His manager/advisor/speech writer will be highway pizza once he's tossed under the bus. If that's how they treat their own, I would hate to work for those SOBs. Vicious, uncompromising and unforgiving isn't how I would like to see our government work.

I agree that now isn't the time to coast for the Democrats. There is a chance that these plutocratic pieces of s**t could steal/buy this election. It certainly wouldn't be the first time. The biggest threat to the President's re-election is complacency. I swear Romney is doing his best to make Obama's coattails long but they have an obscene amount of cash and very little scruples in how they spend it this election. I just hope we can weather this onslaught and take back some house seats. The Democratic caucus has targeted 70 seats, I just hope we get half of that...:)

CarlV 09-17-2012 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 124257)
Yeah, he is wrong. And, so are you.

The difference is he knows what he's up to and YOU DON'T.

The difference is snakes like Romney have figured out how to make fortunes off of putz's like you. It's really very easy. With a little he-man hullabaloo and pseudo-patriotic flag-waiving, they can talk you into giving up whatever they want from you. They have perfected methods of making you feel ashamed of yourself for expecting anything of them.

Go off to fight the wars they start? F**k that, that's for "Little People" like Mezz. Pay taxes? "Whoooooaaaaaa, just you hold on there, Mister! How dare you punish my success? No, no. Paying taxes is for the little people too. You will give ME AND ALL OF MY FELLOW PLUTOCRATS a tax CUT and if it puts a dent in the budget, that's okay, I'll just slick talk that Putz Mezz and his ilk into giving up their Medicare. After all "real Americans and true patriots" don't accept "handouts" anyways....................."

See how that works?

That's you.

Dave


Good posting. :)


Carl

bobabode 09-17-2012 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlV (Post 124264)
Step in it once then turn right around and step in it again. And again....

Real presidential that guy. :p


Carl

So that was that stench in the air here in Costa Mesa tonite. I had better burn some incense.:D

bobabode 09-17-2012 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 124257)
Yeah, he is wrong. And, so are you.

The difference is he knows what he's up to and YOU DON'T.

The difference is snakes like Romney have figured out how to make fortunes off of putz's like you. It's really very easy. With a little he-man hullabaloo and pseudo-patriotic flag-waiving, they can talk you into giving up whatever they want from you. They have perfected methods of making you feel ashamed of yourself for expecting anything of them.

Go off to fight the wars they start? F**k that, that's for "Little People" like Mezz. Pay taxes? "Whoooooaaaaaa, just you hold on there, Mister! How dare you punish my success? No, no. Paying taxes is for the little people too. You will give ME AND ALL OF MY FELLOW PLUTOCRATS a tax CUT and if it puts a dent in the budget, that's okay, I'll just slick talk that Putz Mezz and his ilk into giving up their Medicare. After all "real Americans and true patriots" don't accept "handouts" anyways....................."

See how that works?

That's you.

Dave

Good posting as Carl said. Regards, Bob

Zeke 09-18-2012 12:23 AM

As I aid after the conventions:

One of these guys is a Harvard educated Constitutional law professor and the other is Mitt Romney.

Obama eviscerates this guy in a debate or two and wins in a cake walk of 7-10%.

bhunter 09-18-2012 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 124271)
As I aid after the conventions:

One of these guys is a Harvard educated Constitutional law professor and the other is Mitt Romney.

Obama eviscerates this guy in a debate or two and wins in a cake walk of 7-10%.

Doesn't Romney also hold a JD from Harvard in addition to his MBA? Also, keep in mind these are precanned debates that will likely lack any intellectual depth.

bobabode 09-18-2012 02:22 AM

Romney campaign says they're going to release more specifics but we will not be getting any upskirt shots or nudies of Romney's taxes. We would just use it against them. Really!?!?!:confused:

No new taxes and no old tax forms!:rolleyes:
Just trust me and I won't com....never mind.;)
Romney's new campaign slogan.

merrylander 09-18-2012 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhunter (Post 124272)
Doesn't Romney also hold a JD from Harvard in addition to his MBA? Also, keep in mind these are precanned debates that will likely lack any intellectual depth.

I would not bet on that, Jim Lehrer is moderating one.

JBS... 09-18-2012 07:23 AM

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax."

Romney went on: "my job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

He is spot on... He is talking about the election not how he will govern.

Hmmm, more to the point, he is talking about you...

barbara 09-18-2012 07:36 AM

...............

barbara 09-18-2012 07:42 AM

Sorry about previous post. Having trouble posting this morning.

noonereal 09-18-2012 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 124252)
Not sure what the problem is. Is he wrong? Why would he care about losing people who identify themselves as being 'wedded to entitlements'?
.

Because more than half of them are teabaggers like you.

piece-itpete 09-18-2012 07:53 AM

Whoa the left must be really worried ;)

He's right in not worrying too much about votes he's not getting anyway, and many on the right will agree with him.

SS is 'earned' - SSI is not (generally). Wonder how many SSI receipients are Republicans?

Pete

noonereal 09-18-2012 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBS... (Post 124287)
"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax."

Romney went on: "my job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

He is spot on... He is talking about the election not how he will govern.

Hmmm, more to the point, he is talking about you...

He's talking about your mom and dad. Your disabled neighbor who worked 30 years, your daughter's teenage mom friend from school.

The best part is that he's also talking about his vise Presidential candidate who took SS monies to get through college.

noonereal 09-18-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 124291)
Whoa the left must be really worried ;)

He's right in not worrying too much about votes he's not getting anyway, and many on the right will agree with him.

SS is 'earned' - SSI is not (generally). Wonder how many SSI receipients are Republicans?

Pete

Most SSI recipients are in the fat belt. Trailer trash. So yeah most SSI recipients are republicans. Don't worry though he won't lose their vote, they would never vote for a black man. They know they are better than any black man no matter how accomplished.

piece-itpete 09-18-2012 08:01 AM

My experience in the inner city with SSI has been remarkably different than yours.

Pete

merrylander 09-18-2012 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBS... (Post 124287)
"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax."

Romney went on: "my job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

He is spot on... He is talking about the election not how he will govern.

Hmmm, more to the point, he is talking about you...

This is utter BS and both you and Mitt know it. Every working persom pays taxes, FICA, Medicare, Sales, Property (in their rent if they don't own) so let's stop with the smoke and mirrors OK.

The idea that SS is welfare is more BS, we all paid into the system, if Congress mis-managed those funds don't blame the victims. Do not think for a minute Medicare Part B is free, try $1200 a year (each) for openers.

Your sanctimonious businessmen who declare bankruptcy so they could get some "judge" to let them walk away from their"Guaranteed" pensions, and consequntly dumped that on the axpayer's back should be jailed.

Sorry chum it's the 47%, the underpaid workers, who keep this economy going because they have no choice but to spend every nickle here. Unlike the Romney's of this world who hide it all in Swiss banks. And apparently you are just sucker enough to swallow that line.

Unlike Romney I bring more money into this country than our combined SS every month, but then I worked for a honest company that did not try and screw their employees.

And Romney and Ryan have brown eyes.:p

ebacon 09-18-2012 08:29 AM

Here's part of the 47%. They got about $4,700,000,000,000 from the gubmint. I guess that makes them the 1% of the rich and the lazy at the same time. Just like kings.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...eetBankers.jpg

2009 Wall Street Bankers
Wells Fargo & Co. President and CEO John Stumpf
Citigroup CEO Vikram Pandit
Morgan Stanley Chairman and CEO John Mack
State Street Corporation Chairman and CEO Ronald Logue
Bank of America Chairman and CEO Ken Lewis
Bank of New York Mellon Chairman and CEO Robert Kelly
JPMorgan Chase & Co. CEO James Dimon
Goldman Sachs & Co. CEO and Chairman Lloyd Blankfein

And James Dimon. I wonder what he is up to after running JPMorgan into the ground. Hmm. It escapes me.

Oh yeah! Jamie Dimon is now Mitt Romney's economic advisor. Now those two are some real job creators. :rolleyes:

JBS... 09-18-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 124292)
He's talking about your mom and dad. Your disabled neighbor who worked 30 years, your daughter's teenage mom friend from school.

The best part is that he's also talking about his vise Presidential candidate who took SS monies to get through college.

He's talking about your mom and dad. No he is not... This I know.

Your disabled neighbor who worked 30 years. No he is not. Nowhere does he mention anything about changes to The Social Security and Supplemental Security Income disability programs…

Your daughter's teenage mom friend from school. Not friend, but "my teenage daughter"... Again, no he is not... Your mind set tells you "it takes a village” well that is wrong. It takes a family! Not one cent comes from the government. And for those that need help, yes they should get help! and only untill they can make it on their own. But sadly, far too many turn it into a life style and learn to just get by with government help.

d-ray657 09-18-2012 09:02 AM

Yes, this is an opinion piece, but it also offers a good summary about the taxes paid by that 47% of us who, according to Romney, are entitled free-loader victims.

Regards,

D-Ray

d-ray657 09-18-2012 09:06 AM

Well, JBS, I suppose your sig line represents your attitude, and Mitt Romney's attitude toward our fellow man. I'm not sure, however, that the world it reflects could really be called civilization.

Regards,

D-Ray

piece-itpete 09-18-2012 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 124299)
Here's part of the 47%. They got about $4,700,000,000,000 from the gubmint. I guess that makes them the 1% of the rich and the lazy at the same time. Just like kings.

......

2009 Wall Street Bankers
Wells Fargo & Co. President and CEO John Stumpf
Citigroup CEO Vikram Pandit
Morgan Stanley Chairman and CEO John Mack
State Street Corporation Chairman and CEO Ronald Logue
Bank of America Chairman and CEO Ken Lewis
Bank of New York Mellon Chairman and CEO Robert Kelly
JPMorgan Chase & Co. CEO James Dimon
Goldman Sachs & Co. CEO and Chairman Lloyd Blankfein

And James Dimon. I wonder what he is up to after running JPMorgan into the ground. Hmm. It escapes me.

Oh yeah! Jamie Dimon is now Mitt Romney's economic advisor. Now those two are some real job creators. :rolleyes:

Does Obama know about this? ;)

Pete

wgrr 09-18-2012 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 124271)
As I aid after the conventions:

One of these guys is a Harvard educated Constitutional law professor and the other is Mitt Romney.

Obama eviscerates this guy in a debate or two and wins in a cake walk of 7-10%.

I believe Romney also has a JD/MBA from Harvard. Least we forget he criticised Obama for spending too much time at Harvard. Three years as opposed to the four years Romney was there. Last time I checked law school is a three year program. Heap on the responsibility of editing the law review I would say Obama has a pretty impressive record.

I can't wait for the debates.

Oerets 09-18-2012 09:24 AM

So since corporations are people .....


Mobil Oil,
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...tax/?mobile=nc
GE,
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gener...8#.UFiDDa7Dvsg


I guess welfare to corporations is somehow OK? But the retired or the working poor lower middle class have no say in a R&R administration.




Barney

Oerets 09-18-2012 09:26 AM

On a side note, word is Jimmy Carters grandson tracked down the video and hooked up Mother Jones. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...draiser-video/

Guess someone will now get the blame for pissing off the Carters....

Barney

ebacon 09-18-2012 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 124303)
Does Obama know about this? ;)

Pete

I'm fairly certain that Obama knows.

Is that all, crayon brain? ;)

piece-itpete 09-18-2012 09:48 AM

Hey! I haven't eaten a crayon in a long time. I kicked that addiction by switching to crack.

Pete


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