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Rex E. 08-27-2012 07:46 PM

Thanks again Akin....
 
I can't believe no one has posted Mr Akin's latest. These folks really are showing us where they stand.

Time to end all those school lunches so the kids can suffer......

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/08/17...#storylink=cpy

bhunter 08-27-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 119626)
I can't believe no one has posted Mr Akin's latest. These folks really are showing us where they stand.

Time to end all those school lunches so the kids can suffer......

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/08/17...#storylink=cpy

He's an idiot and has been publically disowned by just about everyone in the GOP. That said, whether or not the Federal government ought be involve in financing schools lunches is debatable. Having a proverbial hammer over the states is wrong and will ultimately lead to more centralized power IMHO.

d-ray657 08-27-2012 07:58 PM

I don't think that we should feed ham breakfasts to politicians.

Our church provides weekend lunch packs to school children in our community who qualify for free lunches. Without the food provided, some of these kids would have nothing at home to eat over the weekend. And this is in the middle of Johnson County - the most affluent county in the state. Just try to fathom the need in less affluent communities. I can't imagine these kids being able to do their job - learning - when they can't get past the rumbling in their bellies.

Regards.

D-Ray

finnbow 08-27-2012 08:09 PM

I wonder if he's against the government subsidized cafeteria (and barber shop) in his office building in DC.

Rex E. 08-27-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 119636)
I wonder if he's against the government subsidized cafeteria (and barber shop) in his office building in DC.

Exactly Finn....when are guys like Akin and our own folks here gonna call for these feckers to put their money where their mouth is and not only give back the million dollar pensions and the perks but also to draft legislation, or bettter yet an amendment, that states it's illegal for congress to vote on anything that could possibly help them financially (heathcare, raises, pensions, security....)

Show us you mean business and renounce all that wasteful gov't spending on Reps & Senators.

Rex E. 08-27-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhunter (Post 119629)
He's an idiot and has been publically disowned by just about everyone in the GOP. That said, whether or not the Federal government ought be involve in financing schools lunches is debatable. Having a proverbial hammer over the states is wrong and will ultimately lead to more centralized power IMHO.

But their are many just like him (veepee candidate, maybe?) that they have not disowned.

Boreas 08-27-2012 09:27 PM

Oh, he's crazy alright but not stupid. When the GOP cut him off and when he was roundly condemned by what passes for mainstream Republicans these days he quickly realized he was going to have to depend on the reactionary fringe of the Republican Party for contributions and they've stepped up to the plate. Expect more crazy shit from Akin when the coffers get low.

John

ebacon 08-27-2012 09:27 PM

The school lunch program does get milked by corporate interests such a Yum Inc., Con-Agra, Coca-Cola, et al. I wouldn't be so quick to throw Akin under the bus for a one-liner. It might be valuable to research his experience and ideas on the topic.

There are a lot of poor people in America. About half of us. Ivory tower big ideas got us into this mess. It will take big ideas to get us out and they might come from simple minds.

barbara 08-27-2012 10:12 PM

Ebacon, can you explain further your statement about corporations milking school lunches?

ebacon 08-27-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 119682)
Ebacon, can you explain further your statement about corporations milking school lunches?

I'll try.

My opinion comes from two sources. One is an internet friend in the catering business. He lives in south central Michigan and, among other business, serves government contracts in the area. One of the problems he discussed openly was satisfying the caloric and nutritional requirements of government contracts while at the same time making enough money to keep his family afloat. Government contracts had become a majority of his business. I got the sensation that he was being pushed out of business by bureaucratic players, not better food or more personal business. He was stuck in a numbers game that he didn't understand and shouldn't have to as a cook.

The second source was a TV story about a year ago. I forget the network. In any event the gist of the story was a school cafeteria manager that kicked out the Dominos Pizza and Cokes and Starbucks and the like and replaced them with healthier local alternatives.

What is your interest in this story?

barbara 08-28-2012 06:53 AM

Ebacon, a couple of thoughts...
Your friend in the catering business needs to know that gov contracts are not set up for big profit margins, especially when it comes to food service. Meeting the nutritional guidelines is not easy and can get costly if he doesn't have bulk buying power or shared overhead.
As for the spot you saw on tv regarding corporations.... I'm not sure what exactly the spot was about, but I can tell you that if a corporation bids on and is awarded a gov contract for food service, they are held to the same standards as anyone else and will have to meet the same nutritional guidelines. For a company like coca cola, that would mean that they could not serve their own product for that lunch.
More than likely, what you saw on tv was that corporations, like coca cola, have made deals with the school system to SELL their products in the cafeteria which is different than the federally subsidized lunch program.

ebacon 08-28-2012 08:28 AM

10-4.

I'm not a pro on this stuff. Just trying to slog through the noise.

Here are a few blurbs from ConAgra and Dominos.

http://www.conagrafoodservice.com/pd...10_Reasons.pdf
http://schoollunch.dominos.com/Biz-P...nch/index.html

ConAgra has removed salt from their Maxx Bigass Pizza and ChefBoyArbys pasta. That's awesome. Those products are so Italian the kids can probably speak the language after eating the shit while watching Sponge Bob Square Pants and the Dangling Boogers.

God is food from an assembly line awesome. And so cheap. The corporations don't even have to create a single job in the community. They can truck the frozen crap right in and leave it on the shipping dock to thaw in time for lunch. That can't be beat even with a corn dog stick.

I wonder why Akin is against the school lunch program. It beffuddles the hell out of me.

Not.

ebacon 08-28-2012 08:43 AM

Wow. There is a school nutrition association. One of the benefits of membership is legislative news. Apparently eating an apple a day and drinking from the water faucet wasn't enough. I don't know how I survived.

From the School Nutrition Association:

Quote:

Learn about important legislative issues, including the implementation of the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act and national nutrition standards, as well as use the legislative toolkit and your political voice to help shape and define national, state and local policy related to school nutrition

Just what we need. Another special interest group.

We've gone mad.

How about a strong bakers union instead. They could do real crazy stuff like let high school kids learn to bake bread while at the same time feeding their classmates and getting a sense of community.

Nah. That's child labor and so************************m. Forget it.

Keep trucking in the Maxxass Pizza.

ebacon 08-28-2012 08:44 AM

hehe.

The board doesn't like so************************m.

How about Hitler?

ebacon 08-28-2012 08:44 AM

Hitler's good to go. Awesome.

finnbow 08-28-2012 08:48 AM

I'm was never too concerned about school lunches for my kids. I think that throughout their years in public school, the 3 kids probably cumulatively ate a dozen school meals (and none after about 6th grade). I think I raised 3 foodies, as all of them would rather go hungry than eat that slop.

merrylander 08-28-2012 08:58 AM

Even though it was during the depression years we would bike home for lunch from the one room shoolhouse. In the winter we would walk home, couple of miles if memory serves. Funniest part was that the girl who lived next door to the schoolhouse was almosy always let.

ebacon 08-28-2012 09:04 AM

It would surprise me if kids are allowed to leave school grounds during the day anymore. I bet most of them are locked in for security reasons.

piece-itpete 08-28-2012 09:05 AM

Barbara, it seems you know a liitle about this, it may interest you to know that when I was a ward of the state in the early 80s the lady who ran the kitchen told me she got $2.30 per kid to feed them. Not per meal, per day!

Pete

finnbow 08-28-2012 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 119747)
It would surprise me if kids are allowed to leave school grounds during the day anymore. I bet most of them are locked in for security reasons.

Around here, only seniors can leave school grounds at lunch. Unfortunately, the food choices available for a quick bite aren't really much better than what's in the cafeteria.

merrylander 08-28-2012 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 119747)
It would surprise me if kids are allowed to leave school grounds during the day anymore. I bet most of them are locked in for security reasons.

This was a village of about 2000 people, started by my uncle and another gentleman. Also gun laws are tougher in Canada.

bobabode 08-28-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 119738)
hehe.

The board doesn't like so************************m.

How about Hitler?

Grumpy has put that one in coventry due to the word ciali.s contained within. The drug of choice of spammers.:rolleyes:

ebacon 08-28-2012 09:44 AM

Funny.

I will use sexlaxalism instead.

ebacon 08-28-2012 10:07 AM

Holy smokes.

Akin's vote against the school lunch program amendment was back in 2004. The house passed the bill but the senate did not. The bill is dead.

Who digs up eight year old non-news? Sexlaxalists, that's who. :D

bobabode 08-28-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 119763)
Holy smokes.

Akin's vote against the school lunch program amendment was back in 2004. The house passed the bill but the senate did not. The bill is dead.

Who digs up eight year old non-news? Sexlaxalists, that's who. :D

Akin does. Sore loser, I guess.;)I'm guessing that starving the beast applies to children, too.

icenine 08-28-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 119641)
Exactly Finn....when are guys like Akin and our own folks here gonna call for these feckers to put their money where their mouth is and not only give back the million dollar pensions and the perks but also to draft legislation, or bettter yet an amendment, that states it's illegal for congress to vote on anything that could possibly help them financially (heathcare, raises, pensions, security....)

Show us you mean business and renounce all that wasteful gov't spending on Reps & Senators.

Actually Rex the idea of paying people to be elected representatives was a progressive idea going way back into Early Modern European history, which American history is basically an extension of if you look at it. The concept is that a paid member of Parliament, or Congress, who can make a living wage is less susceptible to corruption. If you think about it if no one got paid for being in Congress only millionaires (Rotten Bourrough members of Parliament way back in English history) would have enough time and money to serve.
Well you can see their are no millionaires in Congress today ;)....
have to agree though hugh pay raises do reek....

ebacon 08-28-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 119770)
Akin does. Sore loser, I guess.;)I'm guessing that starving the beast applies to children, too.

It's not starving the beast. It's the Akins Diet. :D

God Bless Uhmurica!

http://youthvoices.net/sites/default...od-obesity.jpg

barbara 08-28-2012 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 119748)
Barbara, it seems you know a liitle about this, it may interest you to know that when I was a ward of the state in the early 80s the lady who ran the kitchen told me she got $2.30 per kid to feed them. Not per meal, per day!

Pete

Pete, that sounds about right for the 80s. Not much better than that these days, about $4.00 as average.

piece-itpete 08-28-2012 11:48 AM

It amazes me. We didn't eat badly, but I'd think as they were feeding us 100% and not just lunch it would cost more! Economies of scale? Being kitchen help she's say things like, crack 50 dozen eggs :eek: I can still crack two eggs at a time and my dishes are very clean. I can mop a mean floor too :)

See, the government taught me skills for life lol.

Pete

ebacon 08-28-2012 11:54 AM

A colleague of mine grew up with some kind of government cheese program. To this day he will not touch another piece of cheese.

ebacon 08-28-2012 11:59 AM

Damn Republicans.

http://www.moonbattery.com/government-cheese.jpg

Boreas 08-28-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 119797)
A colleague of mine grew up with some kind of government cheese program. To this day he will not touch another piece of cheese.

A clear indication that government has no business making sure people have enough to eat! ;)

John

piece-itpete 08-28-2012 12:09 PM

Comes in big blocks. Reminds me of Velveeta. It used to be all over the hood. Cheese and Genesee! Breakfast of Champions.

It's be a great band name - 'Government Cheese' :)

Pete

piece-itpete 08-28-2012 12:10 PM

eb, LOL!!

Pete

ebacon 08-28-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 119801)
A clear indication that government has no business making sure people have enough to eat! ;)

John

Hells yeah. Taking care of poor people has become big business. That means jobs, bitches.

http://www.naturalnews.com/033559_fo...Taco_Bell.html

merrylander 08-28-2012 12:31 PM

I hate Kraft cheese, they went around Ontario buying up all the small cheese factories, and Ontario has some damn fine cheddar. All Kraft wanted was their industrial milk allotment so they closed the factories and put people out of work. And you may wonder why American business is not popular in some places.

ebacon 08-28-2012 12:38 PM

The Germans own our stock exchange and the Flemish own Budweiser. The Chinese own Hawker/Beechcraft, Teledyne Continental Motors and Hummer. The Italians own Chrysler.

American business isn't so American anymore. At least we still have Taco Bell. Yessssss!!!1 Those are good jobs.

piece-itpete 08-28-2012 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 119814)
..... Those are good jobs.

And they clean out the passages! :eek:

When I was in merrie olde England a few people mentioned to me how shark-like American business is.

Pete

ebacon 08-28-2012 01:12 PM

It's awful. We look at business as a means to make gobs of money.

Other nations look at business as a means to get done what needs to get done.

We don't care what we do. Build up. Flee from the blacks. Blow up stuff in foreign lands. Repeat. That's good enough.

piece-itpete 08-28-2012 01:19 PM

I thought it was good :)

Businesses in other countries are definately trying to make gobs of money.

Pete


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