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whell 08-08-2012 06:54 AM

A Random Liberal
 
This is one of the reasons why liberal activism rubs me the wrong way. This is not an a-typical act, IMHO. Liberals like to try to intimidate and bully in a way that is totally mean spirited, and like this turd, they're not above making making innocent bystanders like a drive through window worker collateral damage for their cause. But they wish to be excused for their actions because their "intentions are just."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thNqs...layer_embedded

Enjoy.

barbara 08-08-2012 08:24 AM

Whell, bullies are not politically specific. They come in all shapes and sizes and of all political viewpoints.
You could take the very words you wrote and insert "conservatives" for "liberals" and find a similar example of a conservative acting like a jerk just as easy.

mezz 08-08-2012 08:46 AM

I thought it was pretty interesting that he felt compelled to make the declaration that he's "completely heterosexual". What's with the phobia? Does he think his opinion would be lessened if he were indeed 'gay', or (God forbid) someone should mistake him for being gay?

Barbara, I'll admit there are bullies of all stripes, but liberals are notorious for jumping onto bandwagons with only a marginal understanding (usually gleaned through hearsay) of what they are actually stumping for. This guy's statement that he's going to have a great day because he feel he's done something purposeful is telling. Activism for the sake of it. Too typically the basis for liberal motivation.

beej 08-08-2012 09:30 AM

I consider myself neither liberal nor conservative; accordingly I don't believe I have any particular ax to grind. I see it the same way as Barbara. Intellectual pomposity, activism for the sake of activism and self-righteous behavior are not unique to any particular political stripe.

This guy is a jerk and is defined as such by his behavior, not his political views.

merrylander 08-08-2012 10:07 AM

I might have known considering who the OP was - just another crock.

mezz 08-08-2012 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 115848)
I might have known considering who the OP was - just another crock.

Typical fact avoiding ad hominem attack. Par for the course in liberal debate.

Weak.

Brett A 08-08-2012 12:54 PM

Could have been a misguided Libertarian.

Boreas 08-08-2012 01:05 PM

What I find interesting is that any issue involving the expansion of individual rights is a liberal/progressive issue and that the issues are, without exception, vehemently opposed by the "freedom loving" Right.

To my Conservative brothers and sisters, and paraphrasing Inigo Montoya (the "greatest swordsman of all of time"), "This word 'freedom' you are using, I do not think it means what you think it means."

John

merrylander 08-08-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 115869)
Typical fact avoiding ad hominem attack. Par for the course in liberal debate.

Weak.

mezz you have never debated a damn thing here, simply made statements of personal opinion - and that was usually nuts.

Boreas 08-08-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 115879)
mezz you have never debated a damn thing here, simply made statements of personal opinion - and that was usually nuts.

Debate requires one to engage their higher brain functions.

Teabaggers don't do higher brain functions.

John

mezz 08-08-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 115879)
mezz you have never debated a damn thing here, simply made statements of personal opinion - and that was usually nuts.

More avoidance. Have you seen the video?

BTW: whose opinion do you usually state?

merrylander 08-08-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 115883)

More avoidance. Have you seen the video?

BTW: whose opinion do you usually state?

An educated one - mine.:p

bobabode 08-08-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 115883)

More avoidance. Have you seen the video?

BTW: whose opinion do you usually state?

Give it a rest Mezz. Rob was spot on with his estimation of your debate skills.+1. You spout nothing but personal insults with not a fact to back up your insane talking points. Spewing up yet another ad hominem attack from under your cap is typical of your ilk. Could it be that you are the one who hasn't an original thought or opinion? You sure sound like Hannity or is it Rush?

You've come here once again without the slightest hint of bothering to see if the subject has already been discussed and what views the members here have on it. Do a little homework before screechin' your simple minded insults Mezz.

It isn't your intellectual skills or unassailable logic that have you pretty much ignored by most of the members here. It's simply your petty, adolescent tone and lack of any relevant facts included with your opinions. You really aren't worth the keystrokes to bother responding to, haven't you noticed?

Brett A 08-08-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 115890)
Give it a rest Mezz. Rob was spot on with his estimation of your debate skills.+1. You spout nothing but personal insults with not a fact to back up your insane talking points.

Of course not, facts are for snobby Liberals. Besides, facts are apparently more scary than assault weapons to the right.

Boreas 08-08-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 115883)

Have you seen the video?

I have. I suspect we all have and nobody's defending the guy.

Now, if he'd have been smart, he'd have just spit on her. Teabaggers like it when people spit on the people they disagree with.

John

BlueStreak 08-08-2012 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbara (Post 115834)
Whell, bullies are not politically specific. They come in all shapes and sizes and of all political viewpoints.
You could take the very words you wrote and insert "conservatives" for "liberals" and find a similar example of a conservative acting like a jerk just as easy.

Right on, Barb!

The only proof I need is to point to the vast majority of posts by DJ, Mezz and.....well......before he started up with all of this born again Mr. Nice Guy, I don't recall ever saying anything racist bizarreness......TD.

BlueStreak 08-08-2012 05:49 PM

BTW, I got halfway through the video and clicked out muttering, "asshat".
The Dude in the video was being an ass. Employees don't set policy, ownership and management does. Anytime I see some jackass giving an employee a hard time because of something the boss said or did it ticks me off. Regardless of the issue at hand.

bhunter 08-08-2012 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 115815)
This is one of the reasons why liberal activism rubs me the wrong way. This is not an a-typical act, IMHO. Liberals like to try to intimidate and bully in a way that is totally mean spirited, and like this turd, they're not above making making innocent bystanders like a drive through window worker collateral damage for their cause. But they wish to be excused for their actions because their "intentions are just."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thNqs...layer_embedded

Enjoy.

The guy's an asshole. She maintained herself well. I'd likely accidently dump the water on him, but then the spineless prick would try to bring a suit. His only motive in going there was to start trouble.

bobabode 08-08-2012 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 115815)
This is one of the reasons why liberal activism rubs me the wrong way. This is not an a-typical act, IMHO. Liberals like to try to intimidate and bully in a way that is totally mean spirited, and like this turd, they're not above making making innocent bystanders like a drive through window worker collateral damage for their cause. But they wish to be excused for their actions because their "intentions are just."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thNqs...layer_embedded

Enjoy.

http://www.politicalchat.org/showthr...t=4375&page=12 I guess you missed this in that Chick Fil A thread. #116 five days ago....

whell 08-08-2012 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 115874)
What I find interesting is that any issue involving the expansion of individual rights is a liberal/progressive issue and that the issues are, without exception, vehemently opposed by the "freedom loving" Right.

To my Conservative brothers and sisters, and paraphrasing Inigo Montoya (the "greatest swordsman of all of time"), "This word 'freedom' you are using, I do not think it means what you think it means."

John

I frankly could care less what two consenting adults choose to do. My issues is with the ass in the video, and with others like him, who spread their own venom, crap their version of "ideology" on other folks, and then accuse their targets of "hate". To my liberal brothers and sisters, this word hypocrisy is best found with folks like this idiot looking in the mirror.

bobabode 08-08-2012 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 115908)
I frankly could care less what two consenting adults choose to do. My issues is with the ass in the video, and with others like him, who spread their own venom, crap their version of "ideology" on other folks, and then accuse their targets of "hate". To my liberal brothers and sisters, this word hypocrisy is best found with folks like this idiot looking in the mirror.

No support for this idiot here.
We've seen a lot worse from the teabaggers, I suspect that he's just emulating the teabagger's latest tactics. Nobody has expressed any support for this asshole at all. Read about it in the chick fil a thread.

BlueStreak 08-08-2012 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 115908)
I frankly could care less what two consenting adults choose to do. My issues is with the ass in the video, and with others like him, who spread their own venom, crap their version of "ideology" on other folks, and then accuse their targets of "hate". To my liberal brothers and sisters, this word hypocrisy is best found with folks like this idiot looking in the mirror.

And, you could get the same thing hanging out with teabaggers.

Spare me. Your point is vapid.

Dave

HatchetJack 08-08-2012 06:55 PM

The way I saw the Chick Fil A deal go down was hatred being spewed
from the Gay side. We bought sandwiches in support of a good christian
company that was wrongly targeted. We don't hate gays, we just don't
believe in that kind of behavior. No reason they should hate straight
people. I mean it's not like we protest outside of places they like to
frequent.

Whell has a point though, most liberals do seem to think their views are
the only ones that should be considered and all others are fair game for
name calling or ridicule. Go back and read your posts in almost any thread.

Boreas 08-08-2012 06:56 PM

This thread is profoundly stupid, not just because the incident has been addressed and condemned here before but because of your pathetic attempt to tar the entire Left with the same brush as you do this "random liberal".

Quote:

Originally Posted by whell (Post 115908)
I frankly could care less what two consenting adults choose to do.

Really? Okay, how do you feel about same sex marriage? Or possibly just full domestic partnership on an even legal and social basis with heterosexual marriage? How do you feel about full employment opportunities for our LGBT brothers and sisters (and points in between)?

Or do you limit you tolerance to private acts away from your smug disapproving gaze?

Quote:

My issues is with the ass in the video, and with others like him, who spread their own venom, crap their version of "ideology" on other folks, and then accuse their targets of "hate".
Yeah, yeah, we get it Whell. What you don't get is that those of us on the left find this objectionable too, no matter who's doing it. On the other hand, [i]you]/i] guys are verrrry selective in your condemnation.

Let's take the case of the Teabaggers spitting on Black and Democratic members of Congress. It happened. You guys know it happened so the only conclusion one can draw from your lame denials is that acknowledging the truth would require you to either condemn or endorse the behavior. You don't want to condemn it but you're too chicken-shit to admit you condone it. You guys are truly lame.

Quote:

To my liberal brothers and sisters, this word hypocrisy is best found with folks like this idiot looking in the mirror.
There's no hypocrisy from the Left on this. We condemn this behavior. In addition, a large percentage of us believe Mayors Menino, Bloomberg and Emmanuel to be way off base on this issue. I certainly do.

The only hypocrisy here is coming from your end of the stick (the shitty end, IMO). You guys wring your hands and cry "foul" at the drop of a hat, even when the Left's only "sin" is to tell an uncomfortable truth about the Right. On the other hand, you guys never... never acknowledge your own transgressions, no matter how egregious they may be.

John

BlueStreak 08-08-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 115874)
What I find interesting is that any issue involving the expansion of individual rights is a liberal/progressive issue and that the issues are, without exception, vehemently opposed by the "freedom loving" Right.

To my Conservative brothers and sisters, and paraphrasing Inigo Montoya (the "greatest swordsman of all of time"), "This word 'freedom' you are using, I do not think it means what you think it means."

John

From what I have seen so far, "Freedom" to the wingnuts in my life means keeping your mouth shut and doing as you're told.....So long as it's them that's doing the telling.

Dave

BlueStreak 08-08-2012 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HatchetJack (Post 115911)

Whell has a point though, most liberals do seem to think their views are
the only ones that should be considered and all others are fair game for
name calling or ridicule. Go back and read your posts in almost any thread.

"Our idea of bipartisanship is Democrats coming around to our point of view."

Right. Only Liberals think their views are the only ones that should be considered...............:rolleyes:

There are a ton of posts made here by right wingers that do nothing but insult and ridicule. Take off the blinders, Jack.

Dave

Boreas 08-08-2012 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HatchetJack (Post 115911)
We don't hate gays, we just don't believe in that kind of behavior. No reason they should hate straight people.

Really?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4tAXnpmFOz...red+Phelps.jpg

Quote:

I mean it's not like we protest outside of places they like to frequent.
Really?
http://fiftyseventhirtythree.files.w...01/protest.jpg

Quote:

Whell has a point though, most liberals do seem to think their views are
the only ones that should be considered and all others are fair game for
name calling or ridicule. Go back and read your posts in almost any thread.
Have you ever acknowledged the truth of an argument put forward by any of us on the Left?

And it's not a "behavior".

John

BlueStreak 08-08-2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HatchetJack (Post 115911)

Whell has a point though, most liberals do seem to think their views are
the only ones that should be considered and all others are fair game for
name calling or ridicule. Go back and read your posts in almost any thread.

"Our idea of bipartisanship is Democrats coming around to the Republican point of view."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1502718.html

Right. Only Liberals think their views are the only ones that should be considered...............:rolleyes:

There are a ton of posts made here by right wingers that do nothing but insult and ridicule. Take off the blinders, Jack.

Dave

Oerets 08-08-2012 07:16 PM

I have waited to jump into this discussion so far, but here goes.

The video posted of the "liberal" is something I do not agree with. Chick-fil as long as they (owners) don't let their closed minded views get passed along to or effect the employees or customers. Then they are more then welcome to have their opinions.
This person was upset and entitled to his right of free speech just like the owner of the restaurant. We do not have to agree with what was said but we do live in a country that allows free expression for now!

Now if you choose to eat there that is you right also. No one makes you go and eat period. My personal choice is to not but others can. I will not protest any of the stores with the limited info.

I had relatives who went and ate the day of support and were making a big deal about the protesters.Then my wife made the point of they were there basically doing the same thing! Different side of the coin.......



Barney

HatchetJack 08-08-2012 07:18 PM

Oh yeah, that's the way to do it. Make me a hater too and lump me in with
a bunch of wackos. BTW your boy has a YMCA shirt on:rolleyes:

I rest my case.

Boreas 08-08-2012 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HatchetJack (Post 115921)
Oh yeah, that's the way to do it. Make me a hater too and lump me in with a bunch of wackos.

You may not be a hater but you've sure as hell thrown your lot in with them.

Quote:

BTW your boy has a YMCA shirt on:rolleyes:

I rest my case.
He ain't my boy, Jack. Judging by his sign, he's yours.

Picked right up on that YMCA shirt there, didn't ya? ;)

John

BlueStreak 08-08-2012 07:35 PM

Jack and Whell-----Case in Point

http://www.politicalchat.org/showpos...6&postcount=13

Dave

mezz 08-08-2012 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 115923)
You may not be a hater but you've sure as hell thrown your lot in with them.



He ain't my boy, Jack. Judging by his sign, he's yours.

Picked right up on that YMCA shirt there, didn't ya? ;)

John

I wouldn't be surprised one bit if those sign holders were actually gay liberals trying to stir up trouble and portray their imaginary opponets the way they'd like the media to see them. The means always seem to justify the end for liberals and ethics never even enter into the picture (because most liberals don't even really know what they are).

Oerets 08-08-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HatchetJack (Post 115921)
Oh yeah, that's the way to do it. Make me a hater too and lump me in with
a bunch of wackos. BTW your boy has a YMCA shirt on:rolleyes:

I rest my case.

I'm not saying anything about hate directed to you or calling anyone a wacko! Just saying it is still a free speech country and all of that.

But I still let others have their voice and opinions, being of the Liberal persuasion that is all.


Until it stops.....and effects mine!

Barney

BlueStreak 08-08-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 115928)
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if those sign holders were actually gay liberals trying to stir up trouble and portray their imaginary opponets the way they'd like the media to see them. The means always seem to justify the end for liberals and ethics never even enter into the picture (because most liberals don't even really know what they are).

Into bizarre conspiracy theories are you, Mezz?

Ever heard of the Westboro Baptist Church?

They are Christians who openly hate gays, Jews, the federal government and oddly enough, the military.

bobabode 08-08-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 115928)
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if those sign holders were actually gay liberals trying to stir up trouble and portray their imaginary opponets the way they'd like the media to see them. The means always seem to justify the end for liberals and ethics never even enter into the picture (because most liberals don't even really know what they are).

Oh look it's a juvie gadfly ....Where's the flyswatter?:rolleyes:
How old are you,really?

mezz 08-08-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 115930)
Into bizarre conspiracy theories are you, Mezz?

Ever heard of the Westboro Baptist Church?

They are Christians who openly hate gays, Jews, the federal government and oddly enough, the military.

Ever heard of tongue in cheek? No. How about the the Villiage People then? Most gay haters have been avoiding wearing Y.M.C.A. shirts since 1978.

Oerets 08-08-2012 08:25 PM

One being Gay never made me feel bothered in the least. Just like someone being different in other ways does. Do you really think someone picks the uniform they are born in?


Barney

Boreas 08-08-2012 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 115928)
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if those sign holders were actually gay liberals trying to stir up trouble and portray their imaginary opponets the way they'd like the media to see them.

I know you wouldn't. Fact is, though, you're dead wrong.... and box-o-rox iggerint. That's the Good Rev. Fred Phelps in the first photo and his loyal parishioners in the second. The fact that you don't know about Phelps, the Westboro Baptist Church and the "God Hates Fags" demonstrations (all over the country for - what? thirteen, fourteen years?) shows just how far up the Tea Party's asshole you are. Pull your head out and take a look around for once!

John

Boreas 08-08-2012 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mezz (Post 115932)
How about the the Villiage People then? Most gay haters have been avoiding wearing Y.M.C.A. shirts since 1978.

At the time they were popular they were the gay community's biggest joke on the straight world. People like you, Mezz, went out and bought their records in the millions and none of you figured it out. Clueless then. Clueless now.

John


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