Obama's "National Security Leaks"
 

I can't help but be amused by the GOP and their Faux News lapdogs bitching and moaning about national security leaks by the administration. What were the leaks??? We were involved in drone attacks in Yemen and Stuxnet in Iran. Well no shit, Sherlock. :cool:

The world was acutely aware from the get-go that it was our drones blowing up assholes in the deserts of Yemen and the mountains of Pakistan and Kaspersky (the computer security firm in Russia), among others, pointed out the smoking guns in the Stuxnet code that pointed to us and Israel. Who else had the means and motive?:confused:

The real issue here is that Obama is getting credit for national security successes and the GOP feels that its turf is being trampled upon (somehow they view themselves as the party of national security, notwithstanding the debacles of the Dubya adminstration (9/11, Tora Bora, Iraq ...)). Then of course you have the Dubya administration leaking disinformation to Judith Miller of the NYTimes (who now works for Faux, as no one else would hire someone so easily duped) who writes an article that Cheney later that week cites as proof of Iraq's WMD program. Brilliant.:eek:

What a bunch of disingenuous, dishonest @ssholes.

..and the Robert Novak/Valerie Plame bs too.


What I don't understand finnbow, [begin sarcasm] is why a person would think that anyone who hates America as much as BHO would lift a finger to defend it. Clearly, any current national defense successes are the work of Republicans who manage to get a small inkling of power squeezed through the blockade against Patriotism that the So************************t machinery of the current administration is hell bent on, God bless them. [/end sarcasm]

Seriously though, Obama is the most Hawkish (and effective) Presidents in recent history when it comes to military operations, regardless of party.

No worries mate, Axelrod said they didn't come from the White House. So disingenuous dishonest assholes will have nowhere to hide.

Pete

I'm not sure how either of these things (drones, Stuxnet) could be characterized as leaks to begin with. Most sentient beings (this leaves out a significant portion of the GOP) knew full well who was behind these things.

Obama has been very aggresive prosecuting leaks when it suits him.

Pete

Or is it that he is prosecuting leaks that are actually leaks? Is it a leak if someone in the administration leaks that the sun rises in the east (e.g., we're killing terrorists with drones)?

He's been aggressive doing a lot of things when it suits him.

http://amerikuh.files.wordpress.com/...ry-soetoro.jpg

You shouldn't talk that way about DiFi:

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/artic...ks-3619424.php

See? That's the sort of infantile amygdaloid crap that underlies all of your posts and why it's really impossible to take you in the least bit seriously.

John

See? That just exemplifies that liberals have absolutely no sense of humor! :p

By the way, that's a cigarette. (or is pretending that it's a blunt part of the "joke"?)

John

Somebody called me and told me that it was a blunt, and that Obama has been smoking it for the past 11 years.

Okay, now that's nearly humor. Keep working at it and you might get there.

John

You should be smart enough to know that when you have 4 Congresscritters announce something like that, it is all about optics. DiFi is just playing along to show that the Dems are tough on national security issues. It's all kabuki, Whell.

At least he took my advice and bought a thesaurus John. Maybe someone will loan him a sense of humor.:rolleyes:

So, in reality, Dems really AREN'T tough on national security? :confused:

That's right. I looked it up, and now I know what a "blunt" is. A few more posts and look-ups and I'll get your language down pat.

Obama is tougher (or at least smarter and more effective) than Dubya on national security. Yet, the narrative is that the GOP is the party of national security (and family values and fiscal responsibility, among other fictions) and the Dems are always running scared about being labelled soft on national security, despite objective evidence to the contrary. Conventional wisdom and perceptions often drive politics and the parties fight to support the favorable conventional wisdom and dispel the unfavorable, and that's exactly what is happening here (on both sides).

Obama...squarely in the Truman Eisenhower Kennedy Johnson Nixon Reagan national security tradition.....

Sorry Whelly Bush II probably did more drugs than OBH....maybe that is why he could not get Bin Laden...

Not in the Clinton tradition, huh?;)

Wasn't it Clinton who was bombing the Serbians who were in their ethnic cleansing mode? There was also some cruise missles sent after Al Qaeda after the embassy bombings in Africa, I seem to recall.

All I remember of Ronnie Rayguns big record on foreign policy was making Grenada safe for pina colada sipping med students.:rolleyes: That might be my flawed lefty recollection. His grandstanding after the fact, call for Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin wall was a PR hack job IMO. Solidarity did the heavy lifting as I recall.

More importantly, not in the Dub tradition. Obama has shown a little similarity to Bush I in that several middle east leaders have been willing to cooperate with the US in finding solutions to problems in the region.

Regards,

D-Ray

Yet, Obama has continued most of Bush's national defense policies. Hmmm...

You're right. Solidarity snuck into East Germany agitated for and end to Soviet occupation of the East. Then, they somehow fooled Moscow into spending billions of rubles on a national defense program that they could never sustain. I'll bet they spiked the Soviet economy and talked Mikhail Gorbachev into instituting glasnost too!

Brilliant, those Poles.

Nice hat. I wonder if he was in to Leon Redbone when that pic was taken?

The Poles had a lot to do with it. So did the (Polish) Pope. Mostly, though, the Sovs did it to themselves by bleeding their economy dry in Afghanistan, to say nothing of their Five Year Plans which kepthetting them deeper and deeper in the hole.

John

There's hope for you yet Whellie! Glad you're coming around to a realistic viewpoint..:D

Kinda looks like what Trayvon would've grown up to be? I'm also of the opinion that he's puffing on a Marlboro Light in that photo. You can almost make out the two faint lines around the filter end. Failed agin, Whellie!:rolleyes:

This post is almost as hilarious as listening to conservatives in the 1990s crow;

"Communism is Dead and Reagan killed it!!!"

Ummmmmmm, not so fast, guys...................China alone makes up nearly a third of the worlds population.:rolleyes:

Dave

I'd be a lot more likely to vote for the candidate that has a picture of him smoking a nice phatty in his youth than one that only shows going to church all the time.

At least I know the one that smoking a joint is being honest!

Yep, I would submit that having done psychedelics once or twice might make a candidate a more whole, well rounded, introspective, caring individual.
In Romney's case, at this point in his life, a few grams of shrooms might improve him or put him into the loony bin. A win / win if you will.:rolleyes:

Never did any drugs other than booze but I have lived long enough to realize Shakespeare was right about life;

"Tis a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Obama - squarely in the tradition of any great thing but not bad thing ;)

Pete

You have to have " a bull or C to go with that" White people prefer "a Janice". I managed a liquor store in college.

I think so too.

Pete

The collapse of the Soviet Union was predicted by the CIA almost to the day it happened...In the 1960's. Ronnie Rayguns administration had nothing to do with it.

He did not have time to engineer the collapse of the Soviet Union. He was too busy sleeping while he presided over one of the most corrupt administrations in the history of this country.

Remember these:

1 Iran-Contra Affair
2 Department of Housing and Urban Development grant rigging
3 Lobbying scandal
4 EPA scandals
5 Inslaw Affair
6 Savings & loan crisis
7 Debategate

No, you probably don't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_...ation_scandals

How about his tripling of the national debt. Forgot about that one too I assume.

Reagan was a joke. Sadly we have followed his ridiculous trickle down economic supply side economic model for so long now almost all the wealth in this country has been moved to the top income earners using tax loopholes not available to us commoners.

Fact: The Walton heirs hold wealth equal to the bottom 40% of income earners in the US.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ealth-bottom-/

Reagan started it and it is going to take drastic measures to end it.

Let the defensive lies fly.

Shakespeare had Obama's number centuries ago. Failed leaders are such a bore.

But that line was delivered by an young man on the edge of madness. ;)

John

Romney's ancestor?

Great post! Thanks.