Carter Attacking Obama?
 

The great foreign policy expert Jimmy Carter is attacking Obama for the use of drones. It's almost like he really wants to make sure that Obama beats him out for the title of the worst modern democratic president.

Who's he?:cool:

A drunk, stands on a street corner at 2:15 a.m., screaming; "You people suck!! I'm better than ALL of you losers! I could have been the greatest!!"

Could he have been? And do you really care anyways?

Dave

Actually, I've been thinking Obama should send a drone to the FauxNews studios.

"Those strikes have killed at least 1,488 people, at least 1,343 of them considered militants......"

Impressive. Could we target one to hit Limbaughs house? Since his ass is as wide as a barn door, it shouldn't be hard........ Just program it to home in on the smell of bullshit.;)

If using a drone saves an American life then I'm good with it.


Carl

The worst Prez we had until the current Marxist moved into the White House.

Part of me wants to tell Carter to STFU but, basically, I agree with much of what he wrote.

John

Bush was a Marxist?

I love how you guys keep complaining that he promised to fix the economy and failed........It wouldn't have needed any fixing if the Republicans hadn't wrecked it in the first place.

I and the North Wind are in agreement. I've never liked the drone program because it makes it too convenient for those that wield them. They also have the potential to become widespread and are cheap enough that small nations or even non-state actors could deploy them. I've disliked Carter since the 70s, but here I think he just might be right.

Dude, they sell R/C "Spy Drones" at Walmart..............................

A radio controlled helicopter with a camera mounted on it. Welcome to the age of high tech Peeping Toms.

Seriously.

Dave

Yeah, me too. What's funny is that this star wars drone thing is straight out of right wing techno crazed MIC and just now it's abhorrent to them? Just more trash talkin', no more no less. The ratio of collateral damage is miniscule, comparatively. When did the rightys lose their balls?:confused:

I would rather use drones than have another several thousand young people die in some neocon invasion looking for weapons of mass destruction that do not exist. Obama is once again using drone technology that was developed into a fine art by.....you guessed it....BUSH!

The erudite fellow from AZ needs to change his signature.....

:eek:

What makes Obie so bad?

I think many folks are just hatin' on the black man.

Every time I hear this it gets under my skin.

So what if Iraq did have WMD's?

We were still just as wrong to go in a second time.

The country was contained and Saddam was a rational actor.

He did have them the first time we went in and he still did not use them. :eek:

It is just so frustrating, then and now, when people justified war because of WMD's.

There's good arguments on both sides, but Saddam a rational actor? :p

Pete

But of course, in a ruthless dictator kind of way.:)

Yes, totally rational. Evil but rational. His fatal mistake was in assuming that the Bush, Cheney and the Neo-cons were rational as well.

John

Paying rewards to suicide bombers families? Check. Invading ajacent countries? Check. Firing on US warplanes daily? Check.

Clearly rational.

Pete

"1343 / 1488 = 0.902553763" That's an "A" for accuracy in any classroom in the world.

(From the article) Carter criticized the current president for keeping the Guantanamo Bay detention center open, where prisoners "have been tortured by waterboarding more than 100 times or intimidated with semiautomatic weapons, power drills or threats to sexually assault their mothers."

Not in three years. :rolleyes:

I get the point, Gitmo is an international symbol for less than stellar United States activities but there are really only two choices: we can house these folks in the United States or on property controlled by the United States outside of the actual states or territories. (The population wasn't sanguine about moving these folks to detention centers in the contiguous 48 so we're left with the latter.)

Sum? We're left with military bases abroad. Which one is the closest? Gitmo.

The important part is that the atrocities are not ongoing.

Fuck Carter, go build houses.

Irrational to bluff the USA in order to keep up the appearance of parity with a much stronger neighbor Iran. When the US sent the whole 3rd Fleet over to the Gulf in January 03 he should have blinked. We had not done any sort of massive flotilla deployment like that in decades.

Maybe. However, he saw Iran as a greater existential threat than the US after the carnage of the Iran/Iraq war. I have to also believe he believed that the Mullahs were less rationale and more warlike than Bush/Cheney. On that count, he may have been wrong.

Yeah, Saddam was more rational than Bush :rolleyes:

Pete

My point was Dubya may have been less rational than the Mullahs. In retrospect, the Mullahs didn't rush into another invasion of Iraq and we did. What's that tell ya?

They couldn't remake the ME on their own?

Pete

I respect Carter: It takes great courage to speak, articulate ones conscience especially concerning unpopular opinions. Moreso if such make one appears weak.

America is enamored with the man of steel cult. I am more referring to theTrumanesgue and not the actor Reagan with his pathetic Lebanese show and ballyhooed invasion of a postage stamp size island.

I say to Carter build more houses and continue to voice your views.

I would take Carter over George W. Bush without a second thought...oops without W we would not President Obama...hmmmm.

:) Slam Dunk!

That's pretty bad when Jimmy Carter don't like you?
That's like your grandmother not liking you or something.

LOL, good post.

That'll never happen. The Arabs and the Persians hate each other more than they hate America. For Israel they might put aside their differences just long enough for Tehran to get nuked by the Israeli's.;)

It's not his conscience, it's his ego.

i just read a very unflattering book about old Jimmy. If 10% is accurate he snowed us all.

Whatever it is a contrarian voice is always welcome.

Even before I understood what the Nazis stood for I had a bad reaction to the pictures of their mass assembly.
WTF!! With so many hands up in the seig heil, how does the dissenter assert himself.