How to divide a political constituency
 

Step one: as a Democrat, and as President, announce your support for homosexual marriage

Step two: let the chips fall where they may.

Case in point: http://qctimes.com/news/local/iowa-n...9bb2963f4.html

A few days ago I posted an article about a Dem party leader in PA defecting over the issue. Folks here in this forum derided her as a DINO, and characterized her with other less flattering terms.

I suspect it would be tough to characterize this guy as a DINO, however.

When are you goofs going to realize gay marriage poses NO THREAT AT ALL to traditional marriage?

What, Mike? Are you suddenly going to go out and get a divorce because the queers can get married now? Huh? Your marriage is somehow diminished because of someone elses relationship choices?

How?

So, this guy quit the NAACP because of their stance on gay marriage. Who cares? Bye, bye, Rev. Keith!

No biggie. The GOP may be happy to have such folks within their ranks. However, they're losing damn near everybody under 25 in the process.

Well put Dave. Thanks. You saved me from a ultimately wasteful tirade that would've certainly fallen on deaf ears. Three pinochios for wackjob Whellie.:p

Here, have a eyefull of nice Christian folk indoctrinating children into hatred;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4LHw3KWS9A

Hmmmmm...

Gah, somebody call Social Services on those hate mongers. They aren't fit to be parents.

It's not me who's complaining about it, Blue. It's your fellow Democrat goofs that are complaining. Weird, huh? :p

What are you babbling about? That's all we hear from rightwing organizations and bullhorn blowers. Over and over again. "One man, one woman!" Remember?

I give you credit Whell. Your like the battery bunny and have lasted on this site longer than most. There appears to be no place for anyone sharing comments from the other side. Political chat is allowed if you happen to agree with the LEFT. If not...fodder for pit bull attacks.

Oh....One guy quits from the NAACP and it's evidence that it's "really the left" that is opposed to gay marriage? You do know that's the spin he's trying to suggest, don't you?

And then there's the second implication; That anyone who opposes him is simply "Refusing to admit being wrong.". That one won't wash either.

(BTW, did you mean to say "left"? Correct me if I am in error, but I think you did.)

Did you also feel sorry for Richard Nixon because Pat had to wear a cloth coat? :rolleyes:

Regards,

D-Ray

Since when are lapdogs pitbulls?;) :D

I've even been hearing them dubbed "The N-double-Gay-CP" lately. No wonder he bailed.

I was glad to see the NAACP recognize that all people deserve the same civil rights. Those so called religious people in the African American community who object really have no grounds for their objection. And I challance them to show me where Jesus said anything about this subject.

You are right in one thing Mam, like the Energizer Bunny he keeps on beating that same poor drum.

I can't imagine what upstanding source provided that insight. Rush maybe?

Is it not amusing that the man/woman marriage bunch also has a 50% divorce rate.:D

Exactly why it seem ridiculous for government to me to be expanding the concept rather than abolishing it. Marriage should exist only as a religious sacrament, while a couples interaction with the state for tax, ownership, pension, etc purposes should be defined under some sort of 'civil union' construct which doesn't care about the gender of it's participants.

I know you have lived in Canada. The system up there is much closer to what I'm talking about. They legalized nationwide same-sex marriage in 2005 to comparatively little fanfare and most provinces had recognized common-law cohabitations and same-sex civil unions to have basically the same rights as marriages for some time before that anyway.

The basic problem is that so many laws have used the word "marriage" rather than "civil union" that they would still suffer discrimination. As far as religion goes I thought we had separation of church and state.

I still want someone to show me the passage in the gospel where Jesus said anything one way or the other on the subject. I recall that He was said to have turned water into wine at a marriage celebration.

Many companies in Canada recognized what is termed "common law spouses" for years. It was interesting to note that Quebec, a predominantly catholic province, did not make a fuss.

I suppose if they simply passed a law stating that in any other laws wherever the words "marriage, married" appear also add "civil union, civil unions"

Oddly enough when France introduced civil unions people practically stopped getting married in churches.

My first marriage was in the Anglican church, fat lot of good that did. Second was by a "Celebrant in VA" much better as I was free to tell him to forget that jazz about 'Obey" since we were partners, not master and slave.

No let's be historically accurate my tea party pied piperee...

1) Let's not extend the debt ceiling because our President is either foreign or
African American...never mind that previous Presidents both from the GOP and Democratic Party always had the ceiling raised with perfunctory votes.
Then hold the country hostage for draconian cuts that if enacted will cause a double dip recession like what is going on in the UK right now. And refuse infrastructure improvements and job creations bills to further slow down growth in our fragile economy. And then start a war on women...

2) Let the chips fall where they may...

The legitimacy of common-law marriage in the US has been affirmed by the SCOTUS (Meister v. Moore). It's a mess with some states recognizing it and some not. Among the states which do recognize it, there is no consistency at all from one state to the next....

.... except for one thing. All 50 states (or, for you Right Wing Nut Jobs, 49 states and Hawaii) recognize the legitimacy of a couple's common-law marriage even if they themselves don't allow such marriages. Would that were true for gay marriages and gay civil unions!

John

I see you've recognized the game.

Dave

I see you've stopped taking your meds again.... :rolleyes:

...and of course for left wingnuts it's now the 51st state of Kenya... (or if you believe the moron-in-chief's claim about having campaigned in all 57 states - then there are a few more to add).

You don't actually believe that stuff, do you?

How do you guys so consistently confirm my worst suspicions about you. It's a real talent!

John

Is it really that low? Here in California, I suspect it's higher.

I see the Energizer Bunny is still at it.:D

Nah, in California I thought they did not bother getting married in the first place. Oops sorry, that's Hollywood.:rolleyes:

Nope...you cannot refute my argument lol....I think if you take off your tin foil
cap you will stop receiving those evil infrared tea party radio waves floating across Lake Michigan from Wisconsin.....;)