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budgetaudio6 05-27-2012 12:22 AM

Democratic so************************ts of America
 
what are they in for america? this is from their web site. obummer is a schooled individual with them...dont ask me how i know. Google it...


Where does so************************m lead? Does it lead to democracy?...you decide. Check other countries that tried so************************m and what is their outcome?


http://www.dsausa.org/pdf/widemsoc.pdf


Think for your self. Investigate for your self. see what the commies stand for and what is passed in the govmint. who cares who wrote it...nor who signed it into law.......................Because you disagree with it does it negate it?

budgetaudio6 05-27-2012 12:26 AM

i for my self cant beleive they are for the people of their respective countries...individual freedom to be what they want should be the norm...not what the state tells you to think you should be...

bobabode 05-27-2012 12:32 AM

PCP is not passe`?:rolleyes:

d-ray657 05-27-2012 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budgetaudio6 (Post 104284)
what are they in for america? this is from their web site. obummer is a schooled individual with them...dont ask me how i know. Google it...


Where does so************************m lead? Does it lead to democracy?...you decide. Check other countries that tried so************************m and what is their outcome?


http://www.dsausa.org/pdf/widemsoc.pdf


Think for your self. Investigate for your self. see what the commies stand for and what is passed in the govmint. who cares who wrote it...nor who signed it into law.......................Because you disagree with it does it negate it?

Did you actually read the material you cited to? For once you linked to something useful. What they have to say makes very much sense. Corporatocracy, which is what we are devolving toward, is very undemocratic. This organization seems to want to work to for economic democracy as well as political democracy. Sounds pretty good to me.

Regards,

D-Ray

budgetaudio6 05-27-2012 01:04 AM

umm..so************************ts? democracy? Their descriptions of what they are is not the same...demacracy is what america is, so************************m is what russia turned into...Marxism anyone. think for yourself...marxism and democracy can not coexist. either one or the other!

budgetaudio6 05-27-2012 01:05 AM

is there a censor put on my account? so************************m has a bunch of stars on
it

budgetaudio6 05-27-2012 01:07 AM

s o c i a l i s m has a bunch of stars in it

BlueStreak 05-27-2012 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by budgetaudio6 (Post 104299)
s o c i a l i s m has a bunch of stars in it

What are you talking about? It works fine for the rest of us.

So************************m...See, no stars.

merrylander 05-27-2012 07:25 AM

Tell us budget, have you ever travelled/lived in any of the soci@l-democratic countries of Europe? I have been in several and found the people perfectly free, happy with their lives and very well off. Russia is not and was not ever a so************************t country, simply a dictatorship up until the time of Gorbachev.

You obviously did not read the article you cited.

budgetaudio6 05-27-2012 09:20 AM

Never been to any other country. But i hear of Health care that is hurting other countrys. Social health care that is. Canada i think has a better grip on it because they have oil money. Our president is against oil. So under him we will never see that oil money. you know he prefers pond scum over oil.

So************************m leads to Communism, communism leads to tyranny. I hate to think of that happening to our country...and its headed down that path albeit slowly.

have a good memorial day weekend every one. And shake a soldiers hand if you see one.

budgetaudio6 05-27-2012 09:28 AM

this is so wierd s o c i a l i s m looks like this so************************m.

wgrr 05-27-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by budgetaudio6 (Post 104333)
this is so wierd s o c i a l i s m looks like this so************************m.

It is a spam filter. The C I A L I S is in the word.

bobabode 05-27-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wgrr (Post 104336)
It is a spam filter. The C I A L I S is in the word.

cats out of the bag, mebbe.

Combwork 05-27-2012 11:45 AM

[QUOTE=budgetaudio6;104332]

So************************m leads to Communism, communism leads to tyranny.


So does fascism. As far as the effect on people, citizens, profiterole (I KNOW, it's not spelt that way but spellchecker's overheated again. It should be pronounced pro-lat-ear-e-at), are concerned, the effects of extreme right are just as bad as extreme left.

For all the traditional British grouching, I think we've got the balance about right. As a single example good medical care for all paid for by the State. You fall ill or get injured the first thing they check is your pulse, not your bank balance.

finnbow 05-27-2012 12:05 PM

For your information budgetaudio66, social democracy is different from soci@lism which is different from communism. The better run social democracies have the highest quality of living in the world.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top...-life-map.html

Your simplistic view in conflating social democracy with soci@lism and communism is akin to likening conservatism with fascism or nihilism.

From the contents of most of your posts, it seems to me that you need a lot more studying and a lot less Fox News and talk radio listening.

d-ray657 05-27-2012 12:44 PM

I thought the domino theory died in the 70s.

A study of history will show that so************************m is not the basis of a totalitarian state in Russia. Russia simply exchanged a totalitarian state under a Czar for one under a Politburo. The role that the Politburo played in the country was more a function of the social structure of Russia than an economic system.

Regards,

D-Ray

merrylander 05-27-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by budgetaudio6 (Post 104332)
Never been to any other country. But i hear of Health care that is hurting other countrys. Social health care that is. Canada i think has a better grip on it because they have oil money. Our president is against oil. So under him we will never see that oil money. you know he prefers pond scum over oil.

So************************m leads to Communism, communism leads to tyranny. I hate to think of that happening to our country...and its headed down that path albeit slowly.

And we here in freedom loving America have a nation run by corporations, for corporations and to hell with the citizens. they already own a majority of the Roberts court as well as both parties, especially the GOP.

You want real freedom? Go North or go to the British Isles or northern Europe.

Stop worring about Obama and be afraid of the Chamberpot of Commerce and Tom Donohue.

BlueStreak 05-27-2012 01:22 PM

[QUOTE=Combwork;104341]
Quote:

Originally Posted by budgetaudio6 (Post 104332)

So************************m leads to Communism, communism leads to tyranny.


So does fascism. As far as the effect on people, citizens, profiterole (I KNOW, it's not spelt that way but spellchecker's overheated again. It should be pronounced pro-lat-ear-e-at), are concerned, the effects of extreme right are just as bad as extreme left.

For all the traditional British grouching, I think we've got the balance about right. As a single example good medical care for all paid for by the State. You fall ill or get injured the first thing they check is your pulse, not your bank balance.

Proletariat.

And, you're exactly right. We had a pretty tumultuous rebellion against far right, corporatist fascism in this country over the last century. And now we have a strong movement to return to those days, by people too young to understand what they are asking for.

And, no, I'm not talking about 20-somethings, I'm talking about middle-aged idiots who grew up in the 1960s, '70s and '80s.

Zeke 05-27-2012 01:35 PM

The very moment that someone bemoans what a horrid a so************************t learning nation the United States is becomes the moment wherein I realize they know nothing about so************************m.

BlueStreak 05-27-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 104358)
The very moment that someone bemoans what a horrid a so************************t learning nation the United States is becomes the moment wherein I realize they know nothing about so************************m.

Not to mention "totalitarian so(c)ialism".:rolleyes:

What a joke. You have GOT to be kidding me.

When I hear this crap all it does is further confirm my belief that my fellow countrymen are nothing but a bunch of fools who expect a free pass to success.

budgetaudio6 05-27-2012 03:59 PM

i will admit, that i didnt much care for politics until obama was running...and i have a lot to learn...His stance on abortion hit a wrong nerve with me...And his bills he strong arms into law. Thanks for posting some insight. Well yall have a good day.

Remember to shake a soldiers hands when you see em.

wgrr 05-27-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budgetaudio6 (Post 104285)
i for my self cant beleive they are for the people of their respective countries...individual freedom to be what they want should be the norm...not what the state tells you to think you should be...

You need to educate yourself a little before you start posting about things you do not understand.

This is a good definition of Democratic Soci@lism:

"Soci@l democracy is not itself a soci@list system. Rather, traditional social democrats advocated the creation of soci@lism through political reforms by operating within the existing political system of capitalism. The social democratic movement sought to elect soci@lists to political office to implement reforms. The modern social democratic movement has abandoned the goal of moving toward a soci@list economy and instead advocates for social reforms to improve capitalism, such as a welfare state and unemployment benefits. It is best demonstrated by the economic format which has been used in Sweden, Denmark, Norway, and Finland in the past few decades. This approach has been called the Nordic model."

A fine example of a Democratic Soci@list in this country is Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. A man with true integrity who accepts no corporate money. When he speaks on any subject, you can be sure, he is not blowing smoke up your ass to protect his big corporate donors.

Like him or not, he expresses the sentiments of people all over this country. We always talk about how we want members of Congress to be honest, upstanding, people working for their constituents. Sadly that number is very low.

There are many different types of soci@lism.


Anarchism
Democratic soci@lism
Leninism
Libertarian soci@lism
Religious soci@lism
Social democracy
Syndicalism

As much as it may surprise you the new crop of tea baggers in Congress are mostly Libertarian soci@list better known as Anarchism.

I have only dealt with the politics of Soci@lism. There is also Economic, social, and political theory issues to discuss.

Care to do a little Googling? You might learn something.

Oh, Obummer is about as far from a Democratic Soci@list as he can possibly be.

bobabode 05-27-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budgetaudio6 (Post 104368)
i will admit, that i didnt much care for politics until obama was running...and i have a lot to learn...His stance on abortion hit a wrong nerve with me...And his bills he strong arms into law. Thanks for posting some insight. Well yall have a good day.

Remember to shake a soldiers hands when you see em.

Will do, I'm trying to motivate myself out of this chair and go down to the beach. I've been tossing the idea around of picking up a bunch of small flags and hitting the retirement home. See if I can brighten up some old soldier's face and let 'em know they aren't forgotten.

On another other note... don't get too offended by us crabby old liberals as you are the fresh meat on the table. The novelty will wear off as soon as the next victim shows their head. As to the spam filter, a popular spam word is
C i a l i s which is caught and rendered into asterisks.

barbara 05-27-2012 05:24 PM

Budget, you must be getting some bad information if you are hearing health care is hurting other countries. It is in the United States that the health care system is broken and causing havoc. The united states ranks 37th in health care in the world, and yet, we spend the most money to get the least results. We could learn a thing or two from those other countries, especially those who have national health care systems, they seem to be doing it the most cost effective and with the best results for the consumer.

As for S oc i a l is m leading to Communism ......... you have so much to learn....

BlueStreak 05-27-2012 07:43 PM

Right on, Barb!

But, don't forget the impact that allowing the financial wizards of Wall Street to pawn their toxic derivatives on foreign governments has had. Just think, if it wasn't for that colossal stupidity, Europe wouldn't be in the mess it's in.

But, no. The answer is to deregulate further and give those folks more freedom to do it again.....or worse. And, this we're doing for "our children":confused:. (Looks to me like a whole lot of kids in this country couldn't have worse enemies than their own parents.)

Yessir, you got to love it. The future is bright!:)

budgetaudio6 05-28-2012 02:37 AM

god i hat ot think what country we are passing to our children adn thir children...Menacing taxes and all that...which obama has had to strong arm in...not just bush...besides what bush has put in place and while obama is in office and they come into fruition. as in osama? blanche comes to mind, sorry missus!
he wont take credit for his bad policies. but the policy's that came from bush he takes credit of? when it is prudent for him.
im sure he isnt the only one to do so. but hey

bobabode 05-28-2012 03:01 AM

Rush served straight, no ice. Congrats but bs is bs, antagonistically put as it may be.

BlueStreak 05-28-2012 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budgetaudio6 (Post 104408)
god i hat ot think what country we are passing to our children adn thir children...Menacing taxes and all that...which obama has had to strong arm in...not just bush...besides what bush has put in place and while obama is in office and they come into fruition. as in osama? blanche comes to mind, sorry missus!
he wont take credit for his bad policies. but the policy's that came from bush he takes credit of? when it is prudent for him.
im sure he isnt the only one to do so. but hey

What are you talking about? What tax increases did either Bush or Obama foist upon us?

Both of them cut taxes......unfortunately.

And bin Laden? Obama sent the SEALS after bin Laden because Bush told him to?:confused: I would say I want some of what you're smokin', but.......I think not.

I hate to think of what kind of country we are leaving too. I can't imagine it'll be worth a damn in another ten years...And that goes for BOTH parties. But even more so on the right, IMHO, now that the GOP is infested with teabagger lunatics.

merrylander 05-28-2012 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budgetaudio6 (Post 104368)
i will admit, that i didnt much care for politics until obama was running...and i have a lot to learn...His stance on abortion hit a wrong nerve with me...And his bills he strong arms into law. Thanks for posting some insight. Well yall have a good day.

Remember to shake a soldiers hands when you see em.

Emphasis added. Note that nature equipped us with two eyes, two ears and one mouth. Maybe if you watched and listened more you just might learn something.

BTW if you don't approve of abortion don't have one.

wgrr 05-28-2012 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budgetaudio6 (Post 104408)
god i hat ot think what country we are passing to our children adn thir children...Menacing taxes and all that...which obama has had to strong arm in...not just bush...besides what bush has put in place and while obama is in office and they come into fruition. as in osama? blanche comes to mind, sorry missus!
he wont take credit for his bad policies. but the policy's that came from bush he takes credit of? when it is prudent for him.
im sure he isnt the only one to do so. but hey

Taxes are at there lowest rates in over 50 years.

Bush had nothing to do with the the death of bin Laden. Did you see him in the situation room watching one of the most daring raids in this countries history. It took real guts to make the decision to go in rather than lob cruise missiles at the compound. If it had failed it would have been the end of Obama's political career.

Bush did not have the guts to make that decision. He proved that when he hid out in Air Force One hopping around all over the country instead of returning to DC to take charge. The first thing he needed to do was drag that chickenhawk Cheney out of his underground bunker.

Bush really did not have any good policies so why in the heck would Obama take credit for anything Bush did. Republicans did try to blame Obama for one off Bush's legacies, the loss of 836,000 jobs the month Bush handed over the keys to the country he wrecked.

"blanche comes to mind, sorry missus!" What the hell does this mean? Are you referring to Blanche Lincoln (D Wal-Mart) who was defeated by John Bozoman (R Wal-Mart). We lost a blue dog Democrat and gained a useless rubber stamping blob of worthless human flesh. Kind of a wash I would say.

icenine 05-28-2012 11:29 AM

Budget see if you can get into a basic American history freshmen level survey course at your local community college ....one will cover the colonial period to 1877 the other offering usually discusses America from Reconstruction to the present day. You will be surprised I think.:D

budgetaudio6 05-29-2012 12:42 AM

The taxes havent come around yet because they are set to start going into effect after bummer is out of office. and or after a year or two after he takes office again. Google is your friend.

Bummer took is trillions intodebt far bove any other pesident in american history spent. ...Isnt that borrowed money? Considering we are above GDP by now and he is going to be asking for more of a higher debt ceiling? His congress has never approved of a spending bill in his 3 years in congress.

merrylander 05-29-2012 07:12 AM

Ye Gods, what an insufferable bone head. It is the Bush tax cuts that are due to expire in December if Congress takes no action. The Obama tax relief on FICA will also expire at that time. As far as spending Obama has spent less as represented by its yearly increase than any president since Reagan.

It sounds like you have been listening to the Mittster and he lies like a cheap throw rug.

icenine 05-29-2012 11:17 AM

Budget you cannot be for real you must be a troll....

finnbow 05-29-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 104540)
Budget you cannot be for real you must be a troll....

I doubt that he is a troll. His rhetoric is nothing other than parroting Limbaugh/Hannity, a trait unfortunately shared by tens of thousands of semi-brain dead Americans.

icenine 05-29-2012 01:20 PM

Yes I guess you are correct Finnbow....you could not try and fake coming off as jumbled and grammatically incorrect as Budgetaudio and succeed at it lol...

budgetaudio6 05-30-2012 12:15 AM

if you are so convinced otherwise prove to us otherwise. demonstrate your prowess.

icenine 05-30-2012 12:35 AM

Bummer's going to win Budget....deep down nobody likes Rummer...he is just not likable enough to be President...get out your wallet the Bush tax cuts are dead!!!!

budgetaudio6 05-30-2012 12:44 AM

icenine good one. It almost rhymed. i better not say! hehhehehehehAS

budgetaudio6 05-30-2012 12:47 AM

Icenine, you state that you guess. say what? arent you supposed to be certain? there fore no guess work? No question as to your standing?


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