Cleveland bomb plot foiled!
 

FBI brings down a plot to destroy bridge and instigate attack on financial businesses in Cleveland.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/anarch...1#.T6ANxHnRiSo

Following the first video is a second, that I found quite interesting as well.

Dave

Whoa, either of those bridges would've been huge, and every commuter would've been part of a lynch mob.

Let alone the eco-damage the Rt 82 bridge would've done to the Cuyahoga Valley National Park. These guys need to get with the program!

Homeless people, give me a break. Most won't do anything, although I'd bet they'd take the money and vanish :D

Now I can see vid but still no sound, dang.

Pete

If a bomb went off in Cleveland, would anybody notice?;)

Seriously though, I'm glad the FBI was on its game. What kind of @ssholes actually think such actions will actually accomplish anything?

The same kind of stupid kids blew up The Thinker outside our wonderful art museum years back.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Cleveland.jpg

I 'think' :) leaving it alone is great, it shows where these geniuses are at.

Pete

PS Finn the Lorain Carnegie bridge would simply knock down a bunch of closed factories ;)

Whoops, sorry about pic size.

Pete

Anti-government, anti-bank Anarchists, apparently.

The FBI has tied them directly to the Occupy Cleveland movement.

Pete

Which ties them directly to the public sector unions...

Gosh dj I doubt those guys would want that!

Pete

Relax Pete, it's just DJ throwing in his obligatory dig at unions. Summat like Pavlov's dog.

Right, and of course the Fumbling Bunch of Incompetents never makes a mistake.:rolleyes:

Who in their right mind would want to occupy Cleveland? Last time I was there, visiting a company across from Case Western what we drove through from downtown looked like some of the cities in Europe after WW II.

No mistake, one of the bomb leaders signed the lease for the OC folks' office space.

And, hey! :D See what decades of leftie policies can do? lol.

Pete

So one rotten apple means the whole barrel is spoiled? How many of the others in the plot were members of OC.

Talk about a standing braod jump to a conclusion.

Of course the establishment wants to besmirch the OWS folks because they are drawing attention to the sale of America to corporations. Government of the people, by the people, for the people - was a nice idea while it lasted.

I understand that there's a number of 'it's an FBI setup' comments on OWS facebook page.

Pete

Technically, I'm a member of OWS, as I signed up to get their online newsletter early on.

So, does this make me complicit in the Cleveland bombing?

Obama's expressed support for this desperate movement which is slipping into domestic terrorism and he's now announced that he intends to negotiate with the Taliban. He and the left avoid either supporting or negotiating with terrorists simply by coming up with creative labels to call them instead of 'terrorists'. The same thing is afoot with the term 'illegal alien'. They're contemplating calling them something like 'green card challenged undocumented workers' (or some such crap) so they can simply remedy the situation and get all those potential voters green cards or better.

The "undocumented (or "Guest") workers" moniker has been around for several years. It never did quite stick. Remember the "McCain-Kennedy Bill"?;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_..._%28S._1033%29

Yeah, Senator John McCain and Uncle Teddy in cahoots......

See. Some Americans have a memory much longer that last weeks slogan and cliche' release from the inner parties Ministry of Truth. (Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute. You know, the people who tell you what to think.)

For better or worse, negotiating with the Taliban is the only possible way to get out of Afghanistan with any hope whatsoever of some sort of lasting peace.

I am always wary about cases with paid informers. Is the informer a zealous leader?

Nuke Cleveland! :cool:

No, don't do that. They make great beer there.

There are some very disturbing actions on the part of the FBI. First they enlisted a provocateur whose name is Shaquille Azir. Azir infiltrated OC and came upon this group of five idiots talking smack about being anarchist wanting to blow things up to get even with Wall Street bankers. Not very smart to shot your mouth off, to anyone you do not know, when it comes to planning your terrorist plots.

Azir is a convicted felon, with a long rap sheet, and two pending check charges. Azir fronted the fantastic five the money to buy the "plastic explosives" which he then supplied to them. That alone should have set the bullshit meter off. Azir also coached the five on were to place the explosives at the bridge and how to detonate them. That should have blown up the bullshit meter. The problem is the fantastic five were too stupid to see the writing on the wall and they fell for it hook,line, and sinker.

Te FBI had their arrest warrants signed before they even attempted to blow up the bridge.

Already there are attorney's calling this entrapment. This is not a case of good police work. This is a case of the FBI infiltrating OC, finding a group of protesters that are not smart enough to pour piss out of their boots, and then making it very easy for them to carry out a domestic terrorist attack even though they did not posses the resources to actually do it themselves.

If the five had been thrown out of OC, just like others were that advocated violence, they probably would have have smoked another joint, and driven off into the sunset, in their worn out 89 IROC Z with the 2.5 liter 4 cylinder inline engine with a bumper sticker, on the rear bumper, that reads, " Ass, Grass, or Cash Nobody Rides For Free".

What worries me the most is there are people out there that are very capable of blowing up that bridge if they wanted to. They were trained in Iraq and Afghanistan.

While the FBI is manufacturing terrorist plots they are not using their resources wisely to actually prevent a terrorist attack by anybody in this country. They could have easily watched these five idiots and arrested them IF they actually tried to pull off a real terrorist attack in this country on their own.

The FBI needed a trophy head on the wall because, so far, they got squat when it comes to anarchy stemming from OWS. I think that displeases their real bosses the Wall Street Banksters.

What if McViegh's blowing up the Murrah Federal building in OKC inspires a domestic terrorist to do something similar. If McViegh had not been stopped for having no license plate on his escape van then he probably would have never been caught at all. Where was the FBI that fateful tax day, when hundreds of men, women , and children were killed? Probably investigating Clinton's involvement in the White Water Gate scandal, or the Mena, AR drug smuggling operation, and finally..the worst crime of all..getting a hummer in the Oval Office and lying about it under oath You know, important stuff.

I believe McViegh stated it was seeing what went down at Waco and what the Feds did at Ruby Ridge that motivated him to act.

True dat, thanks :cool:

Pete

"Necessity is the Mother of invention.";)

Was that hard? :D

Agreed it looks like the FBI goes a bit aggressive, perhaps too far, but the sad fact is these folks did do it - no one held a gun to their head.

They're pleading not guilty: "....

As Stafford was led out of the court by U.S. marshals, he repeatedly asked the judge, "Why did a federal informant approach me to do this act of terror?"

...."

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...gent-informant

Pete

No, Frank Zappa is.:p

If the paid informer is a very good rabble rouser, it makes all the difference.

You could be talked into killing innocent bystanders?

Pete

Meet the players (scroll down to 'the suspects'):

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...t_was_the.html

Pete

Just wondering - is there any difference between the law enforcement theory used here and that used in the Fast and Furious operation in AZ?

Regards,

D-Ray

I understand, except of course the explosives weren't real.

Pete

This seems to be more the norm than the exception with many of these cases. I posted about the Newburgh case earlier in the thread.

They coerced some "slow" petty thieves into blowing up some NYC something. The stooges even stopped for food along the way feeling their hunger was more important than the bomb.

I think much police work is entrapment ow a days. It really needs to be made illegal.

This one smacks of public relations.

Something stinks when you have to create an incident to be in the news.