Obama's "Mission Accomplished"
 

'The War on Terror Is Over' declares a senior official in Obama's State Department.

Certainly dangerous territory to be treading... but Obama's used to that. He's been 'lying his ass off', in the words of Eddie Murphy, for 3+ years now and his dim witted supporters still love him.

I'm pretty sure this one's a particularly naive and unfortunate whopper, which may indeed come home to roost, but let's just see, while Obama's swirling in this world of delusion, if he tries to pin this one on Bush too... my money's on 'not'.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...er_640620.html

Thanks for sharing that right wing dolt blog.

Getting your info from radical arbitrary opinion explains your insane posts.:)

My thoughts exactly. So Mezz found a right wing blogger that wrote something in a right wing publication to try and make the current administration look bad ........
Yawn....

The so-called "War on Terror" will never be over. That's like declaring victory against insanity. There will always be crazy people in this world. It's ridiculous. It was stupid when Bush delared "Mission Accomplished" and it was stupid of this guy to have said what he said---------if he really said it.

That tongue twister having been said;

No, I'm not voting for the robotic corporate raider. Screw that.

Dave

Who cares about some blogger's opinion? I very rarely ever read an editorial and see no need to delve much past the news that a senior official at the State Department has stated "The war on terror is over". Did you read the advertizements too? Try weighing in on the state department's statement rather than scrounging for something (anything) to avoid the issue and go ad hominem instead.

... and believe me Babs, nobody has to publish anything to make this administration look bad. Perhaps you can't handle the embarrassement of admitting doubts at having supported this horribly inadequate admin, but stubbornly clinging to the rails of this sinking ship is only going to insure you go down with it.

Save yourself, save your country, take at honest look at the failure that is the Obama admin and open your eyes to some modicum of integrity and reject this abomination while you still can.

We're on the same page thus far.


I do however sense the early stirrings of an internal tug-of-war here. You may just come around yet.

No. Wrong again. I started out as a Reagan Republican.....until I realized greed is not good, it's evil because it's never satisfied and will stop at nothing.

Maybe you'll grow a brain somewhere in the future?

Dave

Have you considered Thorazine?

Same here.


(except I go back one election to Ford)

Mezz
Where have you been? Obama has continued all of the Bush anti-terrorism policies. Drone attacks, the destruction of Osama Bin Laden, and even the controversial killing of American citizens abroad who were linked to Al Qaida. Results not rhetoric is what you should be looking at. I guess if it was someone else and not Obama perhaps you would not be whining so much.

Ad hominem attacks? Look at the tone of your response. Look at the tone of the vast majority of your posts. In the words of Uriah Heep, Look at Yourself.

As far as this administration's success in the war on terror, consider how many successful terrorist attacks have occurred on this administration's watch. The strategy of pinpoint attacks against AL Qaeda and Taliban leaders appears to have been quite efficient. Certainly it has been more efficient than the invasion of a country that had not been involved in the attacks.

Regards,

D-Ray

"Babs"????
If you ever had a chance at having any credibility with me, you just lost it.

Icenine........ain't it interesting how those who absolutely hate obama just for the sake of being a republican, can't even see the obvious? Even when Obama follows through with the broken promises of the former administration, they still try to find fault.

Not exactly. The destruction of Osama Bin Laden was his initiative after Bush had shifted attention away from this.

He followed through with Bush's promises, that he ran against?

Pete

I would be confused as to why you`d continue to support him then, but I`m sure you have your reasons which make sense :rolleyes:.

Obama has left the war on terror on auto pilot (much like everything else that would have required leadership to point in any new direction). His attempt to retire the terminology `war on terror`and his stating of one thing and doing of another (usually nothing) has critically undermined the credibility of the US on the world stage and the advancement of our interest and those of out allies, namely the spread of democracy and advancement of freedom and liberty, and the leadership of the US in promoting these values. Obama does not embrace a leadership role for the US in the world. Read his book.

With all due respect D-Ray the war on terror is not all about killing people with drones (although I have no problem with that). Obama has completely dropped the ball on the political and ideological fronts which are the keys to any success and long term security against jihadist islam. As I`ve stated above Obama has let this war run on autopilot and any successes he`s attempting to brag about are like bragging that you hung around for 24 and your broken clock was right twice.

I`m pretty sure that is: a) untrue and b) you are quite aware that gaining credibility with you was nowhere near what I was going for.

You might be right on your second point there, mess.

Pete, as you must know, in many areas, it is impossible to do a complete 360 the day a new person walks into office.
And, as you also probably know, many who voted for Obama are frustrated that he didnt execute a complete 360 turn around the minute he walked into office.

No, he has not, "....left the war on terror on autopilot....". It has been taken into a covert hunt and assasinate mode as it should have been done in the first place. This is how we got bin-Laden and what has other al-Quaeda leaders in hiding and on the run. Massive military action against a cell terror structure is a massive waste of time, resources and last but certainly not least---Human lives. Swatting at a swarm of bees--with a baseball bat. It NEVER made any sense. You will swing until you are exhausted and there will still be bees to sting you. That is the whole point of utilizing a "cell" strategy.

My only gripe with Obama is that he hasn't shut down "occupation" operations in Iraq and Afghanistan quickly enough.

"Obama does not embrace a leadership role for the US in the world. Read his book." Niether do I. I want my country to CEASE trying to run the entire world.

Here we go with the "spreading Democracy around the world" nonsense as the Repulican Party actively tears Democracy down here in the states, claiming, "We are not a democracy, we are a representative republic!". Attacking any citizen activist groups it disapproves of and disuading individual participation in the electoral process while bolstering corporate and plutocratic influence over it.

Can't have it both ways, my friend.

I say we stay concentrated on protecting our own borders, shorelines and shipping lanes while strengthening Democracy at home. We must get our own house in order first, or we will destroy ourselves trying to control everyone else.

You could say my approach to international affairs is more conservative than that of most modern day conservatives.

Dave

I understand Barbara, but it's what he said he'd do! One of the real reasons I have a more than political dislike for the man.

Pete

And one of the first things G. W. Bush said upon entering the Whitehouse was that he hoped to have a peaceful and uneventful presidency........

Stuff happens, promises don't work out and even the POTUS finds himself compelled to do things differently than he had planned. This doen't make him a liar, it makes him human. What would you rather have, pragmatism, or rigid dogmatism?

(If you want to see an outright liar and flip-flopper in action, remove the rose colored glases and take an objective look at Romney.;))

Dave

Pete, during his campaign, Obama was very clear about the fact that it would take time to implement his strategies to turn things around. He made it very clear it couldn't happen overnight. Unfortunately, in our culture of instant gratification, people are unreasonably impatient

I seem to remember Gitmo as the worst evil on the planet... and killing civillians, tsk tsk tsk.

He knew he was overpromising (ask Hillary), and didn't care, now when the chickens come home to roost it's just the way it is.

His slogan should have been, Hope for Change? ;)

Pete

While I don't disagree entirely I do believe that it has been a progression. Bush destroyed the hive and now it is in a 'hunt and assassinate mode'. This was going to occur anyway and Obama has virtually done nothing for which he can legitimately take credit to advance these operations. The infrastructure, the intelligence, the dirty work of invading these countries was all undertaken by Obama's predecessor. Can anyone really imagine Obama ever having the stuff to take any decisive action of this nature.


Come on now, neither can you. Obama has been clearly paying opposition to all of the above lip service while pursuing exactly the opposite agenda all the while.

I also don't believe that requiring proof of citizenship to vote is designed to "disuading individual participation in the electoral process", but is being pursued partly because it is well understood that the typical liberal's ethical compass does not preclude the condoning fraudulent voting practices. Playing fair is considered a sucker's game to them.


I'd say your approach is more isolationist. The world has shrunk considerably since the last time this position held predominance over US foreign policy (pre-wwII). One thing 9/11 taught us is that the oceans alone cannot protect us. We need to remain intricately involved in forein affairs. Obama's foreign policy has been a bumbling mess, easily the worst (and most non-existent) in my lifetime.

And you honestly believe all conservatives always play fair?

I can't wait to see your face when you finally realize what a GIANT lie that is.

Political parties and presidents of such will come and go. My concern is based on the continuation of the Constitution our country was founded upon. Now more specific...H. R. 347 was signed by Obama. And probably agreed upon by most.

As far as the secret service....ummmm...I won't go there. :)
http://rt.com/usa/news/trespass-bill-obama-secret-227/

What is that, an eight year night in Obama speak? :D

Why continue trying to defend the indefensible. Obama has clearly put absolutely zero effort into following through on the vast majority of all the promises which made us his big 'hope' campaign. Where he has made any efforts he has almost always moved in the other direction. He knows his base well though and he's been playing them for fools all along.

Obama's been all about blaming someone else for his failures and trying to take credit for someone else's work whenever the opportunity arises. He's easily the weakest leader we've had in my lifetime (and that includes Nixon and carter). The real hope is hope that he'll be voted out of office as soon as possible so we can restore some integrity to the office of POTUS.

No, politicians of any stripe certainly don`t always play fair, but I`d say that 100% of the contenders this time around for the presidency lie considerably less than Obama and team.

And Mitt is your idea of integrity?

Gordon Gekko for President.

Painter, I will agree, that bill is one of the biggest disappointments in his presidency. I think the best challenge to it is that it is void for vagueness. Laws implicating interference with First Amendment rights must be very precise about the conduct that is prohibited. From what I have seen of the bill, it is lacking in precision.

Regards,

D-Ray

Not that I`d expect the average Obama-lover to recognize integrity anyways, but yes, when compared to Obama, Romney`s picture could be next to integrity in the dictionary.

yeah, the GOP owns integrity.



lol, I love your posts today!

I just took a minute and looked up Romney in the dictionary. Here's what I found:

http://www.fcusd.org/smsweb/Teacher%...flip-flops.jpg

I think it's high time we ditch the whole "war on terrorism" rhetoric and perhaps take up a "war on ignorance."

Mezz - You'd be the first casualty, I'm afraid.

Obama wouldn`t want that war. Hell, his election is hinging on it. Ignorance is the cornerstone of his support base.

Says the fellow from the party with an outspoken disdain for science and reason. Give it up, Mezz. You're a mess.

Are you really still on that AGW band wagon. Consider saving yourself some embarrassent.

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news...te-change?lite

A successful war on ignorance would deprive Rush and Fox of their audiences.

Regards,

D-Ray

WTF does that have to do with anything? FWIW, I have 3 engineering degrees. I forgot more about science 30 years ago than you'll ever know.

It's the unknown unknowns that'll get ya.

Pete

and I had an erector set :p

(although I did fumble terribly with it:()