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Big_Bill 03-03-2012 10:50 PM

Who will Vote for Obama and Why ?
 
Who here will vote for Obama and why.

Bill

finnbow 03-03-2012 10:56 PM

I'm undecided. I may be able to vote for Romney, but not for any of the other 3 clowns trying to get the GOP nomination. It'll be interesting to watch Romney try to shed all the right wing BS he has been forced to endorse to win the GOP nomination. He may take flip-flopping to new levels (if he hasn't already).

Oerets 03-03-2012 11:00 PM

No way will I vote for a Republican, just not gonna happen! Not as long as the Tea Baggers are in the picture....



Barney

d-ray657 03-03-2012 11:31 PM

I will vote for Obama:

1) Because I would rather see the initiatives started in this term, particularly health care reform and consumer protection to go forward rather than be dragged down

2) Because the diplomacy he has fostered has made us safer, as a result of greater trust from our allies

3) Because I don't want the Republicans to come within 100 yards of an appointment to the Supreme Court or other seats on the federal bench;

4) Because he has actual experience running the most powerful nation in the world;

5) Because GOP control would further widen the wealth gap and further decimate the federal budget;

6) Because I want Medicare and Social Security to be there if I am ever able to retire;

7) Because I want to maintain a healthy separation between church and state;

8) Because I trust him more than any of the Republican candidates to keep us out of any new wars;

9) Because I want to see a continued emphasis on moving us away from dependence on fossil fuels and on developing energy independence;

10) Because there is at least some chance that he will resist further development of the corporate state.

11) et cetera.

Regards,

D-Ray

Big_Bill 03-03-2012 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 92474)
I will vote for Obama:

1) Because I would rather see the initiatives started in this term, particularly health care reform and consumer protection to go forward rather than be dragged down

2) Because the diplomacy he has fostered has made us safer, as a result of greater trust from our allies

3) Because I don't want the Republicans to come within 100 yards of an appointment to the Supreme Court or other seats on the federal bench;

4) Because he has actual experience running the most powerful nation in the world;

5) Because GOP control would further widen the wealth gap and further decimate the federal budget;

6) Because I want Medicare and Social Security to be there if I am ever able to retire;

7) Because I want to maintain a healthy separation between church and state;

8) Because I trust him more than any of the Republican candidates to keep us out of any new wars;

9) Because I want to see a continued emphasis on moving us away from dependence on fossil fuels and on developing energy independence;

10) Because there is at least some chance that he will resist further development of the corporate state.

11) et cetera.

Regards,

D-Ray


As much as I hate to admit it D-Ray,

I have to agree with some of your points.

What is my world coming too.

Could there be a Government made Liberal Virus attacking me through my computer ? Where is Finn with my tin foil Feodora hat ?

Bill

d-ray657 03-04-2012 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Bill (Post 92476)
As much as I hate to admit it D-Ray,

I have to agree with some of your points.

What is my world coming too.

Could there be a Government made Liberal Virus attacking me through my computer ? Where is Finn with my tin foil Feodora hat ?

Bill

Perhaps this uncomfortable set of circumstances falls into the category of "be careful what you ask for." ;)

Regards,

D-Ray

merrylander 03-04-2012 07:22 AM

Since the greatest danger facing this nation is the current Republican leadership I have no choice but to vote a straight Democratic ticket.

Twodogs 03-04-2012 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 92483)
Since the greatest danger facing this nation is the current Republican leadership I have no choice but to vote a straight Democratic ticket.

Now dammit Rob, we're just going to cancel each other out.:(

I'm on the ballot this year for precinct committee man. This is as close as I've ever been to politics. The wife and I hosted a coffee the other night and actually had a state senator in my living room, along with some other big wigs. He was fascinated with the tube gear, and he eventually made me get out my entire gun collection for him to look at. It was pretty damn cool, he gave a little speech, and laid out the strategy for our area. He also left us plenty of bumper stickers, like "Anyone but Obama" and "Support the Employees Rights Act". We all had a good chuckle when I told him I was pretty sure that I was the only guy driving around KC with a LU533 AND his bumper sticker on my truck. I told him I always make an apprentice go out and start it.:D

djv8ga 03-04-2012 09:07 AM

I vote for him to face a firing squad.

Fuck that Lefty POS!

Bigerik 03-04-2012 09:56 AM

Well, I sure won't be. :)

CarlV 03-04-2012 11:36 AM

Anybody but Romney. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/ima...ies/banana.gif


Carl

RamblinE 03-04-2012 11:36 AM

It doesn't matter how unhappy I could become with the President. As a lefty, I won't take out any anger on broken campaign promises by voting for a righty. That would be counter productive.

Bigerik 03-04-2012 11:39 AM

No offense to you at all, RE, but i gotta laugh at the US political landscape. Only in America would Obama be considered a "lefty". :)

RamblinE 03-04-2012 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigerik (Post 92535)
No offense to you at all, RE, but i gotta laugh at the US political landscape. Only in America would Obama be considered a "lefty". :)

Yeah.. I know.. :(

He's the best Democrat a Republican could ever hope for. He actually gets rank and file democrats to vote for and support right wing legislation. It's a brilliant coupe of sorts. If he was white there wouldn't be as much opposition towards him as there is from the Republican Party.

noonereal 03-04-2012 12:21 PM

I'll likely vote for Obie because he has done a great job with foreign policy and even though he blew healthcare and the money for the stimulus the GOP answer on healthcare is worse.

Also at least Obie's principles are healthy for the USA even if he can't do much to implement them. The GOP is simply out to screw you and I.

I have no desire to support any group that believes in magic as does the GOP on social issues.

Charles 03-04-2012 12:25 PM

While it may require me to stick a clothespin on my nose, I'll turn out and vote against him.

Chas

Bigerik 03-04-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles (Post 92545)
While it may require me to stick a clothespin on my nose, I'll turn out and vote against him.

Chas

I'm not that surprised... :D

bobabode 03-04-2012 01:01 PM

I'll vote for me and whomever I think represents my ideals. There's far too much certainty that the President will win handily. Pride engenders an electoral backlash every time. There's the impenetrable bubble often trotted out by the Dems to characterize the Retreads but watch out for the teflon bubble the Dems are in. Voters hate assholes dancing a gleeful victory jig before an election and will turn out and turn on such incumbents.

This isn't the going to be the slam donk that my fellow Dems are predicting.
Remember Reagan, Nixon, Shrub....? Ignore history at your peril boys and girls.
Cause it ain't in the bag yet.

merrylander 03-04-2012 01:13 PM

Senator Cardin is being challeng1ged by other Dems. but looking at his challengers I am not certain he need worry.

Big_Bill 03-04-2012 01:55 PM

Well, since Herman Cane is no longer in the running for the job, chased off by by the Democrats Black Operations Devision, selecting a viable Commander in Lies is becoming very difficult ?

I was hoping Rick Perry was the man, but he fell quickly during the debates ?

Herman Cane seemed very interesting, until the d.b.o.o. took him out ? I believe his pure heritage scared Obama, as Obama has done nothing for his people during this recession, nothing. And the Black Community is looking for some Real Change, not empty promises from Barock, who is only a Black Man when He Needs Your Vote Obama.

Ron Paul is a great candidate, but everyone puts him down because he does not look Presidential ? At least he is still viable ?

John Bolton ? It would be nice if would have run.

Condoleezza Rice ? The First Black Women President, I'd vote for her if she was on the ticket. She has the intestinal fortitude for the job. And she has a great voice and is pleasant to look at :)

Donald Trump ? Even the Donald lies better than the group we have there now. He shows promise !

I is a sad state of affairs we have here today ?

Bill

merrylander 03-04-2012 02:03 PM

Don't look now Bill but there is a bogeyman under your bed.:p

Big_Bill 03-04-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 92583)
Don't look now Bill but there is a bogeyman under your bed.:p


OH, I know Merry,

But Finn just sent me a brand new tin foil Feodora, so I'm safe until the Boys in the Black Suits arrive ! But I'm ready for them...

Bill

bobabode 03-04-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 92583)
Don't look now Bill but there is a bogeyman under your bed.:p

or is it in the woodpile? BB's had some race issues of late.

Big_Bill 03-04-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 92599)
or is it in the woodpile? BB's had some race issues of late.


Gee Bob,

This is the second time you mentioned that I have race issues ???

But I don't see them, I call them as I see them, red, yellow, black or white.

Unless your referring my comment that I would trust Blacks before I would ever trust Whites, and that's not a race issue, it's just the facts. I've been there an know of which I speak.

Now I admit that I do like Condoleezza, I think she's one hell of a woman. If that's what your talking about, go for it.

I don't hide from a situation because someone is a different color. And if it is the Obama thing, just ask the NAACP what they think about all the help he has given "His" people, 16 - 19% unemployment and higher in some places.
Obama is GREEN, just like every other politician out there. If you have the GREEN, you have his attention.

Bill

d-ray657 03-04-2012 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Bill (Post 92605)
Gee Bob,

This is the second time you mentioned that I have race issues ???

But I don't see them, I call them as I see them, red, yellow, black or white.

Unless your referring my comment that I would trust Blacks before I would ever trust Whites, and that's not a race issue, it's just the facts. I've been there an know of which I speak.

Now I admit that I do like Condoleezza, I think she's one hell of a woman. If that's what your talking about, go for it.

I don't hide from a situation because someone is a different color. And if it is the Obama thing, just ask the NAACP what they think about all the help he has given "His" people, 16 - 19% unemployment and higher in some places.
Obama is GREEN, just like every other politician out there. If you have the GREEN, you have his attention.

Bill

I would think that the mention of race issues comes from the following statement:

"If you can not be civil to a fellow causation (Caucasian) American upon his death, what can I expect of you when a person of color passes and you do not like his political philosophy?"

Regards,

D-Ray

Big_Bill 03-04-2012 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 92606)
I would think that the mention of race issues comes from the following statement:

"If you can not be civil to a fellow causation (Caucasian) American upon his death, what can I expect of you when a person of color passes and you do not like his political philosophy?"

Regards,

D-Ray


Thank you D-Ray,

I thought that this was a very self explanatory statement ?

If you can not be civil with one of your own upon his death, how can you ever hope to be civil to someone of another, Race, Color, Religion, Nationality or Political Persuasion ? Civility, It has nothing to do with race, unless you wish to take one word out of context.

I believe that it is in the Bible as : How can you say that you love GOD, whom you have never seen, when you can not even love your brothers.But that works just as well :)

Thank you D-Ray,

Bill

finnbow 03-04-2012 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Bill (Post 92582)
Well, since Herman Cane is no longer in the running for the job, chased off by by the Democrats Black Operations Devision, selecting a viable Commander in Lies is becoming very difficult ?

I was hoping Rick Perry was the man, but he fell quickly during the debates

Dumb and dumber, Cain and Perry.

FWIW, it was a former Rick Perry guy who dropped a dime on Cain (or at least that was what Cain claimed on numerous occasions).

d-ray657 03-04-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Bill (Post 92608)
Thank you D-Ray,

I thought that this was a very self explanatory statement ?

If you can not be civil with one of your own upon his death, how can you ever hope to be civil to someone of another, Race, Color, Religion, Nationality or Political Persuasion ? Civility, It has nothing to do with race, unless you wish to take one word out of context.

I believe that it is in the Bible as : How can you say that you love GOD, whom you have never seen, when you can not even love your brothers.But that works just as well :)

Thank you D-Ray,

Bill

That is interesting. It raises a question about who is one of my own. Is it someone who is of the same religion as me? Is it someone with similar political views? Is it someone in my same economic class? Is it someone within my profession? (Have you heard the story about the sharks who escorted the lawyer to the shore on the basis of professional courtesy?;)) Is it someone of my gender? Is it another homo sapiens? Is is someone of my nationality?

There are all sorts of things upon which we might highlight our differences or our sameness. I can relate to Breitbart on the basis of being a husband and a father, and I feel for his family. I cannot relate to him on the basis of the manner in which he chose to present himself to the world or on the basis of the methods he chose to make a point. To me, those characteristics are much more important than his color.

Regards,

D-Ray

Big_Bill 03-04-2012 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 92613)
That is interesting. It raises a question about who is one of my own. Is it someone who is of the same religion as me? Is it someone with similar political views? Is it someone in my same economic class? Is it someone within my profession? (Have you heard the story about the sharks who escorted the lawyer to the shore on the basis of professional courtesy?;)) Is it someone of my gender? Is it another homo sapiens? Is is someone of my nationality?

There are all sorts of things upon which we might highlight our differences or our sameness. I can relate to Breitbart on the basis of being a husband and a father, and I feel for his family. I cannot relate to him on the basis of the manner in which he chose to present himself to the world or on the basis of the methods he chose to make a point. To me, those characteristics are much more important than his color.

Regards,

D-Ray


The point of this matter, Barrister is,

We should all respect everyone in death, as in life.

I do not believe that your comments against Andrew Breitbart were any kinder then his comments when he was alive. So you placed yourself in the same category as you placed him.

And as to the sharks, they do not eat lawyers, because they are so disagreeable to their digestion ! And they pollute the water, so they push you out ! BA BUM BUM And as I understand it, sharks do not eat refuse, or dead waste.

Bill

finnbow 03-04-2012 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Bill (Post 92616)
We should all respect everyone in death, as in life.

Bullchit. Respect is earned, not bestowed upon people for breathing.

IIRC, in several of your previous posts, you've effectively called millions of your own countrymen parasites without knowing any of them. Just how respectful is that?

Bill - You're a bundle of confused contradictions.

Big_Bill 03-04-2012 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 92617)
Bullchit. Respect is earned, not bestowed upon people for breathing.

IIRC, in several of your previous posts, you've effectively called millions of your own countrymen parasites without knowing any of them. Just how respectful is that?

Bill - You're a bundle of confused contradictions.


That's why I'm a Centrist.

And millions of my countrymen are parasites, taking from those that work for their money. And I do know them, by their actions and deeds.

But I wouldn't walk up to them and spit upon them. Everyone deserves respect until they show that they do not deserve it. I did not say that you should bow down and kiss their arses, unless you are running for President.

Bill

finnbow 03-04-2012 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Bill (Post 92618)
That's why I'm a Centrist.

And millions of my countrymen are parasites, taking from those that work for their money. And I do know them, by their actions and deeds.

But I wouldn't walk up to them and spit upon them. Everyone deserves respect until they show that they do not deserve it. I did not say that you should bow down and kiss their arses, unless you are running for President.

Bill

You sound more like a dittohead to me - enthralled by your own meager intellect and convinced that your own delusions are some form of enlightenment.

You say that everyone deserves respect until they show that they do not deserve it, but you know millions who by their actions and deeds are parasites? How well do you know these millions of people?

Big_Bill 03-04-2012 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 92620)
You sound more like a dittohead to me - enthralled by your own meager intellect and convinced that your own delusions are some form of enlightenment.

You say that everyone deserves respect until they show that they do not deserve it, but you know millions who by their actions and deeds are parasites? How well do you know these millions of people?

I would presume as well as I know you, Dear Finn,

And I am aghast at you opinion of me, and after all the complements that I have given you. :rolleyes:

William

bobabode 03-04-2012 11:14 PM

You're not here for discussion or debate, Bill. Bugger off!

Big_Bill 03-04-2012 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 92622)
You're not here for discussion or debate, Bill. Bugger off!


Is this your idea of discussion or debate Bobbie ?

Or are you back in the woodpile again ?

Bill

bobabode 03-04-2012 11:41 PM

Blah, blah,blah, blah, blahh. Say goodnight, Billious.

bobabode 03-04-2012 11:43 PM

Oh Sorry, I meant bah,ba,bah,bah,baaa. Bo Peep.:D

d-ray657 03-05-2012 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Bill (Post 92616)
The point of this matter, Barrister is,

We should all respect everyone in death, as in life.

I do not believe that your comments against Andrew Breitbart were any kinder then his comments when he was alive. So you placed yourself in the same category as you placed him.

And as to the sharks, they do not eat lawyers, because they are so disagreeable to their digestion ! And they pollute the water, so they push you out ! BA BUM BUM And as I understand it, sharks do not eat refuse, or dead waste.

Bill

BTW, Bill. You might point out to me the instances in which I referred to Breitbart as excrement or garbage. You will find that, unlike your references to me, I did not refer to him as excrement or pollution, nor did I refer to him as a parasite or an addict. I directed my comments to his tactics, which included pointing out that, by your definition, because he spoke quite ill of the recently departed, he behaved as a coward.

Now, explain your moral superiority to us again.

Regards,

D-Ray

merrylander 03-05-2012 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Bill (Post 92585)
OH, I know Merry,

But Finn just sent me a brand new tin foil Feodora, so I'm safe until the Boys in the Black Suits arrive ! But I'm ready for them...

Bill

If I was you (heaven forbid) I would be more worried about the guys in the white coats.

BlueStreak 03-05-2012 07:51 AM

The republican party and its teabagging, theocratic acolytes and their insatiable appetite for swallowing every ridiculous morsel of doomsaying, demonization and villification that comes down the Karl Rove feeding tube fills me with the urge to vomit.

I will vote for Obama, and I hope to God he gets reelected, just so I can watch the veins stand out on their foreheads just before for their heads explode. I want to keep him around for another four years for no other reason than to torment every tabackah chawin' redneck Bocephus listener in the country. I want to make them miserable for at least another four years.

Get the picture?

Dave


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