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merrylander 09-12-2009 08:00 AM

Right wing nut cases
 
So now we have two men of the cloth* leading thier congregations in prayer for the President's death. No doubt in hope that some other nutter with a gun will try.

*The only cloth these two should be wearing are long white robes with hoods.:rolleyes:

How can anyone profess to be a Christian and pray for the death of another human being?

Grumpy 09-12-2009 08:36 AM

The only thing more alienating then politics is religion. Not a fan of either but religion is some messed up shit for some people.

JJIII 09-12-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 5530)
So now we have two men of the cloth* leading thier congregations in prayer for the President's death. No doubt in hope that some other nutter with a gun will try.

*The only cloth these two should be wearing are long white robes with hoods.:rolleyes:

How can anyone profess to be a Christian and pray for the death of another human being?

I missed this story. More info?

OvenMaster 09-12-2009 10:34 AM

I may not agree with the President on a growing number of issues, but I sure wouldn't wish him ill health, never mind dead.

WTF is wrong with people these days??

noonereal 09-12-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by OvenMaster (Post 5541)

WTF is wrong with people these days??

They listen to beck and the gang.

merrylander 09-12-2009 11:25 AM

A man (I won't call him reverend) named Alexander in Tempe Arizona was the first on followed by another one in California. It was in Eugene Robinson's column in today's WashPost.

Downtown DC is a good place to avoid today as the rest of the lot are gathering.

Fast_Eddie 09-12-2009 11:29 AM

Well, to be sure, I hope no one does anything crazy because of these nut jobs. I heard about the guy in Tempe a couple of weeks ago. My hope is that these continued cases of extreme behavior cause people to continue to move slightly left. I really think that the actions of Bush and Cheney did that for many people and resulted in the Democratic victories. As usual, the Democrats, unable to miraculously fix every situation America faces in six months time, have lost some support. Perhaps these two along with that Wilson character will keep things moving left.

Take care,

Ed

Sandy G 09-12-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OvenMaster (Post 5541)
I may not agree with the President on a growing number of issues, but I sure wouldn't wish him ill health, never mind dead.

WTF is wrong with people these days??

Amen, Tom. Not only that, but I think making a direct threat like that against the life of a President will get you a visit from the Secret Service...An' THOSE boys are famous for their lack of a sense of humor...

painter 09-12-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OvenMaster (Post 5541)
I may not agree with the President on a growing number of issues, but I sure wouldn't wish him ill health, never mind dead.

WTF is wrong with people these days??


They get the press they want and become rock stars.:rolleyes:

Charles 09-12-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 5543)
A man (I won't call him reverend) named Alexander in Tempe Arizona was the first on followed by another one in California. It was in Eugene Robinson's column in today's WashPost.

Downtown DC is a good place to avoid today as the rest of the lot are gathering.

They're all a bunch of far right wing nutters?

I must disagree. Besides, what you are witnessing is hardly "the rest of the lot". I would be surprised if it's over 1%.

Concerning the origional thread, I suppose I never was "religious" enough to advocate murdering people with whom I simply disagreed.

Chas

Twodogs 09-13-2009 12:24 PM

I saw some footage of DC yesterday, and wow, I can't believe they didn't have the National Guard out there hosing down that un-ruley mob of trouble makers. Most of the ones I saw were obviously hardened criminals, and I know you all won't believe this, but some of them had signs disagreeing with more deficit spending.:eek: I think at the very least, some rubber bullets would have been merited.:p

painter 09-13-2009 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 5578)
I saw some footage of DC yesterday, and wow, I can't believe they didn't have the National Guard out there hosing down that un-ruley mob of trouble makers. Most of the ones I saw were obviously hardened criminals, and I know you all won't believe this, but some of them had signs disagreeing with more deficit spending.:eek: I think at the very least, some rubber bullets would have been merited.:p



You're right 2dogs! What a shameful expression of patriotism! AND just think...there were Democrats, Republicans and Independents, young and old alike. Shouting ocscene slogans...like...NO MORE TAXES!..NO MORE BAILOUTS! AND carrying flags and signs! YOU WORK FOR US! WE NEED JOBS! NO ACORN! CLEAR OUT CORRUPTION! Why if we're not careful...this might spread. Hope children were not watching. ;)

Sandy G 09-13-2009 02:17 PM

Ahhh, they shoulda mowed 'em down in the street like the Mad Dogs they are...Imagine the nerve & the temerity of ANYONE saying naughty things bout our exalted government...It's THEIR money, THEY know better than us dum peasants & peons on how to spend it...Death to the ingrates 'n' infidels !!

Fast_Eddie 09-13-2009 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 5593)
Ahhh, they shoulda mowed 'em down in the street like the Mad Dogs they are...Imagine the nerve & the temerity of ANYONE saying naughty things bout our exalted government...It's THEIR money, THEY know better than us dum peasants & peons on how to spend it...Death to the ingrates 'n' infidels !!

Irony- a thread that started about people who actually *do* want death was somehow transformed into a thread that implies others want death.

Irony- not so long ago, if you disagreed with the leaders, they actually DID accuse you of being un-American. Now that they don't everyone is crying that they do.

Now that's rhetoric.

Take care,

Ed

Sandy G 09-13-2009 04:40 PM

Funny thing how there are NEVER any "Left-Wing Nut Cases"...I guess the Left have a monopoly on what's Good, Right (Excuse the pun..) 'n' Fair ?!? The Left NEVER lies, makes Enemies Lists like that cur Nixon did-and Shrub prolly did, too...or destroys property & kills people ? Only those on the right do those sorts of things, don't they ?

Twodogs 09-13-2009 05:32 PM

All joking aside, I actually had goose-flesh yesterday while watching these people. And Sandy is right, there were Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Blacks, Whites, Asians, Hispanics, you name it. Out of all the signs I saw, and it must have been over 100, there was only one that was what I'd call rude. Some college age looking guy had a small sign that said Obama sucks. Of all the interviews I watched Griff Jenkins do, they all had basically the same message; "We want our freedoms, stop spending like a drunken sailor on shore leave, and keep the government out of the health insurance business. I was literally beaming with pride when I saw all the older folks there, and almost cried when an old Marine was interviewed. He said that he had fought for this country's freedom before, and he was proud to be able to do it again. I think all these libs that are just laughing this off, and calling the people of this movement foul and disrespectful names, would do good to re-think their stance. Glenn Beck may get overly theatrical at times, but he's no joke. Ask Van Jones if he thinks he's just a clown? The American People are banding together like they haven't since 9-12 after the towers fell. I just can't wait until the 2010 elections.:)

Charles 09-13-2009 06:12 PM

It appears to me that most of the folks who attend these rallies are constitutionalists, although I'm sure that it will be argued that they know nothing more about the constitution than they do about the theory of relativity.

And let's not forget, that constitutionalists were painted as terrorists in a DHS memo earlier in they year...although it has been indicated that many of the points on this memo were taken from the SPLC.

Now let me get this straight in my mind...if you believe in the Constitution of the United States...you're a terrorist? And if you disagree with the way our government is being managed, you're a nut job? And a lackey of Faux News and the VRWC?

In my not so humble opinion, anyone who believes this is a damn fool.

There. I said it, and I mean it. And I've got it right.

Chas

wajobu 09-13-2009 06:52 PM

Most of the trouble right now is strictly the result of bigotry.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/op...dowd.html?_r=1

It has been simmering since the election and now it's boiling over.

The more crap that folks can throw out there to dis-credit him (almost entirely false), the less Presidential he will appear, apparently. Joe Wilson's outburst was calculated, trying to get a reaction in addition to distracting from the President's speech on healthcare. Now Wilson has a campaign video to raise money for his pending campaign based on his outburst.

painter 09-13-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie (Post 5594)
Irony-

Irony- not so long ago, if you disagreed with the leaders, they actually DID accuse you of being un-American. Now that they don't everyone is crying that they do

Ed

Not so Eddie...most people give credit for putting the AMERICAN people first...take this...........

http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregio...ry/793864.html

Well done Mr. President!

Fast_Eddie 09-13-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G (Post 5595)
Funny thing how there are NEVER any "Left-Wing Nut Cases"...

Are you kidding?

How 'bout my good Colorado buddy Ward Churchill? Nah, it's not that there aren't any. It's just that they are so outnumbered by right-wing nut jobs they pale in comparison. lol

Fast_Eddie 09-13-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by painter (Post 5600)
Not so Eddie...most people give credit for putting the AMERICAN people first...take this...........

http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregio...ry/793864.html

Well done Mr. President!

Agreed - well done!

Charles 09-13-2009 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wajobu (Post 5599)
Most of the trouble right now is strictly the result of bigotry.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/op...dowd.html?_r=1

It has been simmering since the election and now it's boiling over.

The more crap that folks can throw out there to dis-credit him (almost entirely false), the less Presidential he will appear, apparently. Joe Wilson's outburst was calculated, trying to get a reaction in addition to distracting from the President's speech on healthcare. Now Wilson has a campaign video to raise money for his pending campaign based on his outburst.

Joe Wilson is a member of the SCV? Now there's a radical organization for you. Just lousy full of Democrats, lots of historians, whose purpose is to remember their ancestors who fought for the Confederacy. You have to be able to document an ancestor who fought for the South to be a member.

And as far as Ms Dowd attempting to put words in Mr. Wilsons mouth "You lie, boy", she simply reveals herself as the race baiter.

Chas

Fast_Eddie 09-13-2009 09:58 PM

I do think Wilson's outburst was calculated. But I think it failed to achieve it's mission. And the man is an ass.

Sandy G 09-14-2009 05:20 AM

"Liar, liar, Pants on fire..." Well, SOMEBODY had to say it...Fess up, now, all y'all were THINKIN' about it...(grin)

merrylander 09-14-2009 07:06 AM

Well let's see; under all the proposals so far you will only get a subsidy from the government based upon what your tax forms say - how many illegals file tax forms? Some illegals file tax forms but rather than an SSN they use a special number provided by the IRS, so it is known that they are illegals. Nothing in the plans stops an illegal from buying health insurance, but how many could possibly afford it?

Wilson is simply following a long line of SC pols, all down through history they have been involved in some rather rowdy congressional behaviour.

Twodogs 09-14-2009 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wajobu (Post 5599)
Most of the trouble right now is strictly the result of bigotry.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/op...dowd.html?_r=1

It has been simmering since the election and now it's boiling over.

The more crap that folks can throw out there to dis-credit him (almost entirely false), the less Presidential he will appear, apparently. Joe Wilson's outburst was calculated, trying to get a reaction in addition to distracting from the President's speech on healthcare. Now Wilson has a campaign video to raise money for his pending campaign based on his outburst.

Heck, I didn't know they had T-Shirts, thanks for the heads up Waj.:p Last count was 750k in donations to Mr. Wilsons campaign since his "outburst".

As far as looking "less presidential" I don't think he needs any help. He takes care of that all by himself. Of course I would have to give some credit to the two morons seated behind him in that speach.:D So, what's all the "entirely false" stuff that's being thrown out there about poor ol' Barry?

hillbilly 09-14-2009 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 5612)
Heck, I didn't know they had T-Shirts, thanks for the heads up Waj.:p Last count was 750k in donations to Mr. Wilsons campaign since his "outburst".

As far as looking "less presidential" I don't think he needs any help. He takes care of that all by himself. Of course I would have to give some credit to the two morons seated behind him in that speach.:D So, what's all the "entirely false" stuff that's being thrown out there about poor ol' Barry?


Speakin' of outbursts, I bet Obie got a kick outta this one. And folks wonder why I live in a white county .. with my own kind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yOOPHe3QHU

merrylander 09-14-2009 10:29 AM

Ah you need to be more broad minded, I live in one of the few Republican districts in Maryland but I don't hold it against them.:D

wajobu 09-14-2009 10:32 AM

Joe Wilson's apology was hollow based on his current defiant tone...I know what his views are and they are not mine.

merrylander 09-14-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 5612)
As far as looking "less presidential" I don't think he needs any help. He takes care of that all by himself. Of course I would have to give some credit to the two morons seated behind him in that speach.:D So, what's all the "entirely false" stuff that's being thrown out there about poor ol' Barry?

As compared to the previous two morons? Oh you know TD, the stories about McCain not being a US citizen because he was born in the Canal Zone that is part of Panama.:rolleyes:

spasmo55 09-14-2009 11:43 AM

Interesting thread to return to.

I thought that I had read thet Mr Wilsons' Democratic opponent had raised over 820K since the "Outburst", exceeding Wilsons' 750K.

And if my history serves me right South Carilina has always been on the forefront of "Southern" interests. First with certain understandings as to what "All Men" meant as far as being created equal in the Declaration. Secondly, I think they were the driving force behind the 3/5 ruling for slaves in the constitution, when determining representation, yes?

When I was married in SC in 1976, they still would not perform inter-racial marriages.

And surely, Merry you know that the Canal Zone was a US Territory when McCain was born:rolleyes:

merrylander 09-14-2009 12:13 PM

Spas I guess you missed the :rolleyes: at the end. It would not have mattered since his mother was a US citizen so he would also be one regardless of where he was born, as was the case with Obama. I was just making fun of TD's sig.:D

Twodogs 09-14-2009 04:07 PM

I guess I should change that sig. I just thought it was funny.

Oh crap, I'm missing Beck, see ya later taters.

noonereal 09-14-2009 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 5638)
I guess I should change that sig. I just thought it was funny.

Oh crap, I'm missing Beck, see ya later taters.

i started to post lol but then i thought you might be serious :confused:

wajobu 09-14-2009 06:43 PM

Well, at least he didn't say that he was running to listen to the Savage Nation. :p

noonereal 09-14-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wajobu (Post 5641)
Well, at least he didn't say that he was running to listen to the Savage Nation. :p

aren't they the same person with a different agenda?:rolleyes:

Charles 09-14-2009 07:25 PM

Well, I was fixin' to get into a sluggin' match with you libs, but...

O'Reilly's getting ready to query Karl Rove on Obama's address to the Congress last week.

I would suggest that ya'll should watch too, but it's best if you have no idea as to what the opposition is up to.

Chas

Sandy G 09-14-2009 07:40 PM

An' just WHAT'S wrong w/"The Savage Nation" ?!? Dr. Weiner has got it goin' on...Kinda like Stacy's Mom....(grin)

Twodogs 09-14-2009 09:04 PM

I catch Savage nearly every night on the radio.;)

noonereal 09-15-2009 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles (Post 5644)
Well, I was fixin' to get into a sluggin' match with you libs, but...

O'Reilly's getting ready to query Karl Rove on Obama's address to the Congress last week.

I would suggest that ya'll should watch too, but it's best if you have no idea as to what the opposition is up to.

Chas

I do not understand why anyone would watch an overt liar as Rove.
What can he possinly bring to the table?:confused:


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