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finnbow 01-19-2012 01:16 PM

Newt's a Swinger
 
"BLUFFTON, S.C. — Newt Gingrich’s second wife says he asked her for an “open marriage” to continue his affair with the woman who became his current wife.

In an interview with ABC News to be broadcast Thursday night on “Nightline,” the former wife, Marianne Gingrich, says that Mr. Gingrich informed her he was having an affair with a Congressional aide, Callista Bisek.

“I said to him, ‘We’ve been married a long time,’” Marianne Gingrich says, in an excerpt from the interview released Thursday morning by ABC News. “And he said, ‘Yes, but you want me all to yourself. Callista doesn’t care what I do.’”

Marianne Gingrich said that was unacceptable to her, and the marriage, his second, ended after 18 years."


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...open-marriage/

It seems like the evangelicals now have the choice between a Mormon and a swinger.:rolleyes:

noonereal 01-19-2012 01:23 PM

lol :D

piece-itpete 01-19-2012 01:35 PM

Yikes!

For some reason, I don't know why, the name Newt fits him.

Not to cast anything on others named Newt!

Pete

Rex E. 01-19-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 86334)

It seems like the evangelicals now have the choice between a Mormon and a swinger.:rolleyes:


or a black muslim.... ;)

This is one of the many reasons I'm hoping for Mitt. These are the exact same reasons you'll see someone come along and throw a monkey wrench in about 4-6 months keeping Obama firmly in the White House.

finnbow 01-19-2012 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 86387)
or a black muslim.... ;)

This is one of the many reasons I'm hoping for Mitt. These are the exact same reasons you'll see someone come along and throw a monkey wrench in about 4-6 months keeping Obama firmly in the White House.

Monkey wrenches are non-partisan. They will thrown by all. Keep your head down and you'll be fine.;)

BlueStreak 01-19-2012 06:18 PM

"It's still the same old story
A fight for love and glory
A case of do or die.
The world will always welcome lovers
As time goes by."


Either Republicans will forgive a WHOOOOOOLE lot, just to show Barry the door.....or they will simply stay home this November the 7th.

But, one thing is becoming evident. This fight aint gonna be as easy breezy as they had so recently surmised.

Pop some corn and pull up a chair, this show is gonna be good.

Dave

Charles 01-19-2012 06:39 PM

Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line. The Pubbies will turn out in November...they have a case of the ass.

We'll see about the Donks, and the election hinges on the independents, which have been trending more conservative in the polls.

I wouldn't count Barry out, the media is good for a good 5 points if nothing else. But he's coming across like a 50 yr old whore...the blossom is definitely gone from his flower.

In my estimation, if he wins, it will be a squeaker. If he loses, it has the possibility of being as big of a landslide as when he won. At least that's the way I see it at this point in time. Lots of things can change between now and then.

Chas

BlueStreak 01-19-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles (Post 86431)
Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line. The Pubbies will turn out in November...they have a case of the ass.

We'll see about the Donks, and the election hinges on the independents, which have been trending more conservative in the polls.

I wouldn't count Barry out, the media is good for a good 5 points if nothing else. But he's coming across like a 50 yr old whore...the blossom is definitely gone from his flower.

In my estimation, if he wins, it will be a squeaker. If he loses, it has the possibility of being as big of a landslide as when he won. At least that's the way I see it at this point in time. Lots of things can change between now and then.

Chas

And come to think of it, there are no dumbass "Operation Chaos" moves causing confusion among the lemmings this time around. They all seem to be pointed in the same direction.................

So, you may just be onto something, Chas.

Dave

Rex E. 01-19-2012 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 86433)
And come to think of it, there are no dumbass "Operation Chaos" moves causing confusion among the lemmings this time around. They all seem to be pointed in the same direction.................

So, you may just be onto something, Chas.

Dave

Voting for Obama?

:D (sorry Dave, it was too easy)

Big_Bill 01-19-2012 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 86418)
"It's still the same old story
A fight for love and glory
A case of do or die.
The world will always welcome lovers
As time goes by."


Either Republicans will forgive a WHOOOOOOLE lot, just to show Barry the door.....or they will simply stay home this November the 7th.

But, one thing is becoming evident. This fight aint gonna be as easy breezy as they had so recently surmised.

Pop some corn and pull up a chair, this show is gonna be good.

Dave


Well Dave,

Not to put down our fearless golf pro., but with the Black unemployment rate at 16.7%, I doubt that he will have the joyful throngs of voters rushing out to support his reelection. If any were to stay at home, it will most likely be those who elected him the first time.

Where do you think he will be living when he looses the election ?

Now don't get me wrong, cause I believe that Mitt will be just his twin brother that just can't play golf. And GFB that fat neut gets in, he'll just talk us all to death. What a dilemma, having to choose between all of these questionable gentlemen. Do you think Mr. Jimmy would come back ? Or Sarah !

Bill

Zeke 01-19-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Bill (Post 86440)
This message is hidden because Big_Bill is on your ignore list.

That's better. :D

BlueStreak 01-19-2012 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Bill (Post 86440)
Well Dave,

Not to put down our fearless golf pro., but with the Black unemployment rate at 16.7%, I doubt that he will have the joyful throngs of voters rushing out to support his reelection. If any were to stay at home, it will most likely be those who elected him the first time.

Where do you think he will be living when he looses the election ?

Now don't get me wrong, cause I believe that Mitt will be just his twin brother that just can't play golf. And GFB that fat neut gets in, he'll just talk us all to death. What a dilemma, having to choose between all of these questionable gentlemen. Do you think Mr. Jimmy would come back ? Or Sarah !

Bill

The workforce at my plant is about 90% black.

Trust me, after the recent comments made by GOP candidates, very few of them will be voting Republican if any. They know what's up, they've lived their whole lives dealing with it. And I'd say they hate it just enough to reelect Obama just to spite the bastards that spew it.

Dave

Rex E. 01-19-2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 86442)
That's better. :D

That's no fun, Zeke. You'll be missing out on a lot. ;)

BlueStreak 01-19-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 86444)
That's no fun, Zeke. You'll be missing out on a lot. ;)

I did the same for a while, because his comments were winding, twisting and spinning so fast they were making me nausious. Then, I kinda missed the ride, so I un-ignored him.

Dave

David Newman 01-19-2012 10:25 PM

Minority voters tend to not be swing voters, so even a poor showing by the democratic party during a current administration won't cause many votes to switch, kind of like the religious right won't have many swing voters jumping ship if Romney or Paul wins the nomination. Both groups are firmly inline with the party that does more for them as a large piece of society as a whole.

Santorum can't pull a swing vote with his ultra conservative social views.
Newt can't pull a swing vote because, well, he's Newt.
Paul can't pull a swing vote because his stance on a majority of issues go against societal norms, left or right included.
Romney is a moderate who can pull votes away from the left, the unfortunate part for the republican party is that he's also an easy target and since the Republican are incapable of not destroying one another, he'll probably not make a great showing, either.

I'm still not convinced that swing voters who went for hope and change are willing to think that hope and change can come from the group that caused the desire for hope and change to begin with.

It'll be interesting to see if the general reaction in the next election will be dissatisfaction with the president or dissatisfaction with the Tea Party types.

BlueStreak 01-20-2012 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman (Post 86498)
Minority voters tend to not be swing voters, so even a poor showing by the democratic party during a current administration won't cause many votes to switch, kind of like the religious right won't have many swing voters jumping ship if Romney or Paul wins the nomination. Both groups are firmly inline with the party that does more for them as a large piece of society as a whole.

Santorum can't pull a swing vote with his ultra conservative social views.
Newt can't pull a swing vote because, well, he's Newt.
Paul can't pull a swing vote because his stance on a majority of issues go against societal norms, left or right included.
Romney is a moderate who can pull votes away from the left, the unfortunate part for the republican party is that he's also an easy target and since the Republican are incapable of not destroying one another, he'll probably not make a great showing, either.

I'm still not convinced that swing voters who went for hope and change are willing to think that hope and change can come from the group that caused the desire for hope and change to begin with.

It'll be interesting to see if the general reaction in the next election will be dissatisfaction with the president or dissatisfaction with the Tea Party types.

In the bolded;

Can't say as I agree with this entirely. I know some who are sufficiently dissatisfied with Obama, to consider another candidate. But, as one coworker put it recently; "There is still plenty time for the Republicans to screw the pooch." (Which they seem bent on doing, I would ad.)

I don't think anyone would disagree that this will be a "Lesser of two Evils" type of election. Unless something truly shocking happens, I still think it's going to be closer than some assume.

Dave

d-ray657 01-20-2012 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Bill (Post 86440)
Well Dave,

Not to put down our fearless golf pro., but with the Black unemployment rate at 16.7%, I doubt that he will have the joyful throngs of voters rushing out to support his reelection. If any were to stay at home, it will most likely be those who elected him the first time.

Where do you think he will be living when he looses the election ?

Now don't get me wrong, cause I believe that Mitt will be just his twin brother that just can't play golf. And GFB that fat neut gets in, he'll just talk us all to death. What a dilemma, having to choose between all of these questionable gentlemen. Do you think Mr. Jimmy would come back ? Or Sarah !

Bill

But if you listen to Fox and Rush, that 16.7% is the core of the Democratic constituency.

Regards,

D-Ray

piece-itpete 01-20-2012 09:13 AM

Obama will still get the black vote, of course. The black radio shows are already ramping up.

I doubt he'll get the same turnout though, black and youth. He oversold his hope and change bs so much he jaded a bunch of the youngsters that fell for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big_Bill (Post 86440)
....Mitt will be just his twin brother that just can't play golf.

.....

But, can he bowl gracefully? :D

Pete

Twodogs 01-20-2012 01:55 PM

I like me some Newt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGT8A8kbF10

finnbow 01-20-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 86596)

That whole thing was canned. Newt knew the question was coming as it was the big political talk yesterday (along with Perry bailing), so he prepared to answer it in the only way he could - blame the media for his own transgressions. It may endear him to those on the Right in need of a red meat fix. It'll do nothing for him with moderates and the ladies. He's a pompous prick.

Wasillaguy 01-20-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 86596)

Probably did more for his popularity than anything else to date. He filleted that fish so fast the bones were still flopping.

bhunter 01-20-2012 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 86347)
Yikes!

For some reason, I don't know why, the name Newt fits him.

Not to cast anything on others named Newt!

Pete

Newton Leroy vs. Willard Romney
Sounds like an old horror movie.

David Newman 01-20-2012 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 86543)
Obama will still get the black vote, of course. The black radio shows are already ramping up.

I doubt he'll get the same turnout though, black and youth. He oversold his hope and change bs so much he jaded a bunch of the youngsters that fell for it.



But, can he bowl gracefully? :D

Pete

I'm not seeing that. My general impression of young people is that despite being disenfranchised with the political system, they are still very strongly standing on the side of progressives.

If republicans have their hopes set on getting young voters, they have to being significantly more moderate on social issues which the party has shown they have no interest in. I also suspect that the tea party actions over the last couple of years will probably scare a few people the other way.

As far as Obama goes, while I don't think he has been as effective as some have hoped, the lefties arent quite buying the right wing propaganda machines messages about him, either.

Twodogs 01-20-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy (Post 86600)
Probably did more for his popularity than anything else to date. He filleted that fish so fast the bones were still flopping.

I was hoping Newt would walk over and slap the shit out of the poor dumbstruck bastard. Can you just imagine Newt standing over him saying "Get up, I dare ya punk".:D It's shit just like this (the moderator leading with a horseshit story) that has our election process beyond repair in my opinion. Young vote? I thought the ones in college voted like their liberal professors told them, and the poor inner city ones vote for the free money guy.

BlueStreak 01-20-2012 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 86543)
Obama will still get the black vote, of course. The black radio shows are already ramping up.

I doubt he'll get the same turnout though, black and youth. He oversold his hope and change bs so much he jaded a bunch of the youngsters that fell for it.



But, can he bowl gracefully? :D

Pete

And, you don't think the GOP is overselling a bit? They seem to have a whole lot of people convinced that all it takes is to have a Republican in the Whitehouse, ANY half assed Republican, and we'll all be riding high in no time.

Where is the basis for that?

Dave

BlueStreak 01-20-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhunter (Post 86601)
Newton Leroy vs. Willard Romney
Sounds like an old horror movie.

Based on a present day nightmare.

Dave

BlueStreak 01-20-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman (Post 86603)
I'm not seeing that. My general impression of young people is that despite being disenfranchised with the political system, they are still very strongly standing on the side of progressives.

If republicans have their hopes set on getting young voters, they have to being significantly more moderate on social issues which the party has shown they have no interest in. I also suspect that the tea party actions over the last couple of years will probably scare a few people the other way.

As far as Obama goes, while I don't think he has been as effective as some have hoped, the lefties arent quite buying the right wing propaganda machines messages about him, either.

I have some good dicussions with my nieces oldest son on Facebook. He is in his third year of college, (Majoring in geology.). He's a Ron Paul guy, but, he'll tell you quick that he is surrounded by "Obamasheeple", as he calls them. They chime in to heckle him mercilessly.

So, based on my own personal observations; It doesn't look like the John Birch Society is picking up many members on campus.:rolleyes:

Dave

Oerets 01-20-2012 04:45 PM

From what I been seeing and hearing around here, it will be more of a vote not really for but against the other candidate. Most wish that there would of been better choices to choose from.

So it may all be in who turns out their base in the general.


Back on Newt the brute, I love it now he is exposed as the person I always knew he was. Laugh when I hear all the the talking heads defending or making excuses him now. We all know there is plenty more info to come.





Barney

painter 01-20-2012 04:48 PM

[QUOTE=David Newman;86498)

I'm still not convinced that swing voters who went for hope and change are willing to think that hope and change can come from the group that caused the desire for hope and change to begin with.

[/QUOTE]

LOVE it! :)

Bigerik 01-20-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 86607)
I have some good dicussions with my nieces oldest son on Facebook. He is in his third year of college, (Majoring in geology.). He's a Ron Paul guy, but, he'll tell you quick that he is surrounded by "Obamasheeple", as he calls them. They chime in to heckle him mercilessly.

So, based on my own personal observations; It doesn't look like the John Birch Society is picking up many members on campus.:rolleyes:

Dave

You know, I hate when you guys make me smarter. After reading your post, I realized that I really didn't know the John Birch Society well enough. Did some research and learned a lot. Sound like my kind of guys!

BlueStreak 01-20-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 86596)

My how angry lying, cheating, Republicans get when their horrid chacter flaws and hypocrisies get called out.

Newt is an amoral, selfish, arrogant and deeply conceited man who has (ironically) been pushing for something that he himself obviously doesn't really believe in for decades. And all of the cheering from his blinder wearing supporters will never change that.

Their support of this walking, talking contradiction in only indicative of their extreme desperation.

Dave

Charles 01-20-2012 06:02 PM

If Diogenes was a billionaire, he couldn't afford the fuel for his lantern to go to DC.

Chas

Twodogs 01-20-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 86620)
My how angry and lying, cheating, Republicans get when their horrid chacter flaws and hypocrisies get called out.

Newt is an amoral, selfish, arrogant and deeply conceited man who has (ironically) been pushing for something that he himself obviously doesn't really believe in for decades. And all of the cheering from his blinder wearing supporters will never change that.

Their support of this walking, talking contradiction in only indicative of their extreme desperation.

Dave

Now, you want my take on your guy?:p

Rex E. 01-20-2012 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigerik (Post 86618)
You know, I hate when you guys make me smarter. After reading your post, I realized that I really didn't know the John Birch Society well enough. Did some research and learned a lot. Sound like my kind of guys!

I'm not sure he knew what they were either as he had no idea they'd be in SoCal :rolleyes:

Rex E. 01-20-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman (Post 86498)
Romney is a moderate who can pull votes away from the left, the unfortunate part for the republican party is that he's also an easy target and since the Republican are incapable of not destroying one another, he'll probably not make a great showing, either.

This is the sad truth. We should have had Mitt four years ago but got McLame. Of all the candidates then and now he's still the best choice. Socially aware a fiscally responsible. Just the moderate most of the country is looking for.

Jump on in Dave (bluestreak Dave that is) with how much better a choice Obama will be again.....

d-ray657 01-20-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 86613)
From what I been seeing and hearing around here, it will be more of a vote not really for but against the other candidate. Most wish that there would of been better choices to choose from.

So it may all be in who turns out their base in the general.


Back on Newt the brute, I love it now he is exposed as the person I always knew he was. Laugh when I hear all the the talking heads defending or making excuses him now. We all know there is plenty more info to come.





Barney

I have no problem saying that I will be voting FOR Obama. Sure, I have been disappointed by how he caved on some issues, and how he allowed the right wing to define the issues. But he has now shown the ability to seize the direction of the conversation, maybe even enough to overcome some of the intransigence in Congress. At least from the way it looks now, the debate over the general election will be sufficiently defined that he will have a mandate - and the wherewithal to do something about it.

Regards,

D-Ray

Twodogs 01-20-2012 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 86641)
I have no problem saying that I will be voting FOR Obama. Sure, I have been disappointed by how he caved on some issues, and how he allowed the right wing to define the issues. But he has now shown the ability to seize the direction of the conversation, maybe even enough to overcome some of the intransigence in Congress. At least from the way it looks now, the debate over the general election will be sufficiently defined that he will have a mandate - and the wherewithal to do something about it.

Regards,

D-Ray

But we live in KS and MO. Your vote almost counted last year, but I bet it won't even be close in misouri this go around, and Kansas, well, is Kansas.:)

Rex E. 01-20-2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 86649)
But we live in KS and MO. Your vote almost counted last year, but I bet it won't even be close in misouri this go around, and Kansas, well, is Kansas.:)

Don't count out all those dead liberal voters in the St. Louis area Jay :D They still vote and vote often ;)

d-ray657 01-20-2012 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 86649)
But we live in KS and MO. Your vote almost counted last year, but I bet it won't even be close in misouri this go around, and Kansas, well, is Kansas.:)

Nope. Live in Kansas, but work in MO. I'm hoping that the professional folks in JOCO wake up enough to send Yoder back to his tea party, but I don't hold out hope for the KS electoral votes to go anywhere but the GOP.

Regards,

D-Ray

Charles 01-20-2012 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twodogs (Post 86649)
But we live in KS and MO. Your vote almost counted last year, but I bet it won't even be close in misouri this go around, and Kansas, well, is Kansas.:)

You're right, no Donk running for anything above dog catcher will be elected in Missouri this year. And even they need to watch out who's dog they catch.

It's a real possibility that Missouri may be relegated back to our "Bellweather" status.

Chas


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