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whell 01-19-2012 07:55 AM

Hollywood Left is pissed at the Prez
 
Looks like the Google boys and their fellow travelers have had their say, and the Prez is backing them instead of the traditional Dem donors from Big Media.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/01/excl...-piracy-stand/

They might not give their money, but I suspect the Prez is looking at his incoming funding and deciding that he can do without the Left coast's funding during this election cycle. Besides, I can't imagine that the Left would line up to vote for Romney, so its a relatively safe position to take.

Frankly, I think the administation is doing the right thing - though potentially not for the right reasons - to squash SOPA. But just when I start to think Obama may have seen he light, he turns around and squashes the oil pipeline.

merrylander 01-19-2012 08:43 AM

Delayed, not squashed.

BlueStreak 01-19-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 86293)
Delayed, not squashed.

Right.

Dave

BlueStreak 01-19-2012 12:27 PM

I'm pissed at the Hollywood Left. Those guys haven't put out a real blockbuster in decades.

Dave

piece-itpete 01-19-2012 12:32 PM

In the meantime, companies AND workers could be making money. It's the ecomony?

Pete

Dondilion 01-19-2012 01:54 PM

Why am I so suspicious of this bill?

Rex E. 01-19-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 86293)
Delayed, not squashed.

The shame is it's only for possible poltical gain, but what isn't these daze, eh?

Hoping the thermo energy thing kicks off here in NV soon along with the bullet train to LA (though having more LA folks here would be the downside ;) )

BlueStreak 01-19-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 86386)
The shame is it's only for possible poltical gain, but what isn't these daze, eh?

Hoping the thermo energy thing kicks off here in NV soon along with the bullet train to LA (though having more LA folks here would be the downside ;) )

Yeah, alternative energy and bullet trains.....Where have I heard that before?

Dave

Rex E. 01-19-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 86420)
Yeah, alternative energy and bullet trains.....Where have I heard that before?

Dave

Been something talked about around these parts for much longer than anybody's known the name , Obama.

BlueStreak 01-19-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 86426)
Been something talked about around these parts for much longer than anybody's known the name , Obama.

Yeah, I know. But, when he talks about it------It's a bad thing.:rolleyes:

Dave

Rex E. 01-19-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 86427)
Yeah, I know. But, when he talks about it------It's a bad thing.:rolleyes:

Dave

Not around here. The problem is he reveled himself and everyone found out it was just talk.....:rolleyes:

David Newman 01-19-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 86430)
Not around here. The problem is he reveled himself and everyone found out it was just talk.....:rolleyes:

Everyone is just talk about our political system is built to never create drastic change. Slow, gradual, methodical change is about as much as we can expect.

merrylander 01-20-2012 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 86430)
Not around here. The problem is he reveled himself and everyone found out it was just talk.....:rolleyes:

When the head of the Transportation committee is that idiot Mica from Florida don't expect any useful ideas re transportation.

Rail will move stuff more efficiently than any other method but do we subsidize it? Hell no says Mica.

But we subsidize trucking because you and I build the roads.

We subsidize air travel or do you know of an airport that was built by an airlne?

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

piece-itpete 01-20-2012 09:05 AM

The 'high speed train' they were going to build in Ohio had an overall average speed of 39 mph.

Pete

bhunter 01-20-2012 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 86386)
The shame is it's only for possible poltical gain, but what isn't these daze, eh?

Hoping the thermo energy thing kicks off here in NV soon along with the bullet train to LA (though having more LA folks here would be the downside ;) )

Hey, they might go to your place, rather than drive down the coast to mine.

Charles 01-20-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 86386)
The shame is it's only for possible poltical gain, but what isn't these daze, eh?

Hoping the thermo energy thing kicks off here in NV soon along with the bullet train to LA (though having more LA folks here would be the downside ;) )

Isn't NV hot as hell and dry?

If so, build a super insulated home with a swamp cooler. And if I wasn't figuring on going to LA (which I ain't), I'd dynamite the tracks.

Just don't get caught.

Chas

Rex E. 01-20-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles (Post 86623)
Isn't NV hot as hell and dry?

If so, build a super insulated home with a swamp cooler. And if I wasn't figuring on going to LA (which I ain't), I'd dynamite the tracks.

Just don't get caught.

Chas

In the summer it is and that's just southern NV. In the winter the desert is cold and dry. Not as cold as MO but far colder than most folks think and when you get used to it being 115 in the summer then 40 is pretty damn chilly ;)

I do need to do some more insulating on this old house and a swamp cooler is in the plans (if we stay here). Don't want and of that nasty MO humidity. A large part of why I left MO.

Rex E. 01-20-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhunter (Post 86599)
Hey, they might go to your place, rather than drive down the coast to mine.

At which point you and I will become neighbors ;)

Charles 01-20-2012 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 86629)
In the summer it is and that's just southern NV. In the winter the desert is cold and dry. Not as cold as MO but far colder than most folks think and when you get used to it being 115 in the summer then 40 is pretty damn chilly ;)

I do need to do some more insulating on this old house and a swamp cooler is in the plans (if we stay here). Don't want and of that nasty MO humidity. A large part of why I left MO.

Since this is my business, I'll make a few suggestions.

Air infiltration is your biggest problem. Replace your doors and windows with something that seals up. On your windows, a good double insulated glass is just as good as the high priced stuff, as long as it seals up good. Low E glass is good if you get a lot of sunlight, don't waste your money on Argon filled, unless you can come out on a tax credit, and I think they're gone.

Once you do that, blow the attic full of fiberglass insulation, to at least R40.

And a cheap retrofit, which you could possible do yourself, it to frame 2x4 walls inside of your existing exterior walls. Stuff them with R13, rock them and install crown so you don't have to tape and finish the ceilings. This does three things. For one, you've probably doubled your R factor, not to mention that you've slowed down the air infiltration, but you have also eliminated the heat sink effect of the studs transmitting heat/cold through the walls.

These things will pay for themselves quicker than upgrading your HVAC system. Let's get serious, why drop a ton of change on a better furnace until you close the damn door? First things first.

Chas

finnbow 01-20-2012 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles (Post 86656)
Since this is my business, I'll make a few suggestions.

Air infiltration is your biggest problem. Replace your doors and windows with something that seals up. On your windows, a good double insulated glass is just as good as the high priced stuff, as long as it seals up good. Low E glass is good if you get a lot of sunlight, don't waste your money on Argon filled, unless you can come out on a tax credit, and I think they're gone.

Once you do that, blow the attic full of fiberglass insulation, to at least R40.

And a cheap retrofit, which you could possible do yourself, it to frame 2x4 walls inside of your existing exterior walls. Stuff them with R13, rock them and install crown so you don't have to tape and finish the ceilings. This does three things. For one, you've probably doubled your R factor, not to mention that you've slowed down the air infiltration, but you have also eliminated the heat sink effect of the studs transmitting heat/cold through the walls.

These things will pay for themselves quicker than upgrading your HVAC system. Let's get serious, why drop a ton of change on a better furnace until you close the damn door? First things first.

Chas

Absolutely. In residential structures, you lose a lot of heat through infiltration and not just conduction. Going through a modern tract home with a caulking gun can make a noticeable difference (above and below windows mostly).

Rex E. 01-20-2012 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles (Post 86656)
Since this is my business, I'll make a few suggestions.

Air infiltration is your biggest problem. Replace your doors and windows with something that seals up. On your windows, a good double insulated glass is just as good as the high priced stuff, as long as it seals up good. Low E glass is good if you get a lot of sunlight, don't waste your money on Argon filled, unless you can come out on a tax credit, and I think they're gone.

Once you do that, blow the attic full of fiberglass insulation, to at least R40.

And a cheap retrofit, which you could possible do yourself, it to frame 2x4 walls inside of your existing exterior walls. Stuff them with R13, rock them and install crown so you don't have to tape and finish the ceilings. This does three things. For one, you've probably doubled your R factor, not to mention that you've slowed down the air infiltration, but you have also eliminated the heat sink effect of the studs transmitting heat/cold through the walls.

These things will pay for themselves quicker than upgrading your HVAC system. Let's get serious, why drop a ton of change on a better furnace until you close the damn door? First things first.

Chas


This is something I've been working on. This home was built in '76. It already has new windows and doors (part of the reason I considered it when looking). I have noticed that cold air blows in through all of the a/c outlets. something I've been working on sealing up. I know I need more insulation in the attic and I'm sure the walls could use it but we've only been here a year now so all things in time.

Maybe you should come to Vegas for a week and make a little money instead of losing it like most do ;)

David Newman 01-20-2012 11:12 PM

I'll add that when you go about sealing the house up, make sure you have a system to provide combustible air to enter the house to avoid negative pressure situations.

bhunter 01-21-2012 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman (Post 86686)
I'll add that when you go about sealing the house up, make sure you have a system to provide combustible air to enter the house to avoid negative pressure situations.

I run positive pressure in my bedroom just like an OR or clean room. I never really understood how leaky a house is until I did that. On a still evening, I can feel all the air blowing out from the room. Even a slight pressure difference between the respective source and sink is enough to lose heat or cold.

merrylander 01-21-2012 06:28 AM

This old house has 2 x 6 exterior walls with insulation to match. A good 10" of fiberglas in the attic. Low E skylight and patio doors and all windows double glazed.

Recently had the basement playroom (about 480 sq ft) done with the Owens Corning basement wall system - 2.5" semi rigid fiberglas and am currently laying a Bruce hardwood floating floor. Being all electric the only replacement air needed is for the clothes dryer.

The house that I had in Quebec was oil fired forced warm air. I installed two 4" ducts from the outdoors, one fed fresh air to the oil burner the other fed the cold air return with a damper to regulate it. Took 20% off my heating bill

Charles 01-21-2012 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex E. (Post 86662)
This is something I've been working on. This home was built in '76. It already has new windows and doors (part of the reason I considered it when looking). I have noticed that cold air blows in through all of the a/c outlets. something I've been working on sealing up. I know I need more insulation in the attic and I'm sure the walls could use it but we've only been here a year now so all things in time.

Maybe you should come to Vegas for a week and make a little money instead of losing it like most do ;)

Whatever you do, don't buy any of that expanding foam. It will ooze everywhere and make a hell of a mess. I've seen people use it to seal around their window and door jambs, it will apply so much pressure to the jambs that their doors and windows won't open and shut right. And trying to dig it all back out is a career opportunity.

You can probably fix 90% of your problems with a few tubes of caulk. And one of those cheap infrared thermometers are pretty handy for finding your trouble spots. Just don't laze the cops, they might get nervous and shoot you.

Chas

Rex E. 01-21-2012 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles (Post 86723)
Whatever you do, don't buy any of that expanding foam. It will ooze everywhere and make a hell of a mess. I've seen people use it to seal around their window and door jambs, it will apply so much pressure to the jambs that their doors and windows won't open and shut right. And trying to dig it all back out is a career opportunity.

You can probably fix 90% of your problems with a few tubes of caulk. And one of those cheap infrared thermometers are pretty handy for finding your trouble spots. Just don't laze the cops, they might get nervous and shoot you.

Chas

Thanks for the input as I had a couple of cans of expanding foam left over from shipping an ATV engine and I was gonna use them up.


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