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bhunter 01-17-2012 11:00 PM

Pipa sopa
 
Has anyone looked at these bills? Tomorrow, multiple sites are going black in protest.

http://www.1stwebdesigner.com/design...an-affect-you/

neophyte 01-18-2012 05:08 AM

this is very, very scary. I cannot believe the degree of erosion our freedoms have suffered in the past decade.

Oerets 01-18-2012 07:34 AM

Good for them to try and make a stand. I think it will have little effect but will make these facts known to more people now.




Barney

BlueStreak 01-18-2012 07:37 AM

Oh, so that's what's going on.

I opened up google this morning and they have a black stripe across their logo.

Dave

merrylander 01-18-2012 07:44 AM

First the Patriot Act, . . . Land of the Free? Once upon a time.

BlueStreak 01-18-2012 07:46 AM

Hmmmmmm, interesting. And certainly a cause for concern.

I do hope everyone is taking note of the bi-partisan nature of this issue.
Kind of reinforces Lou Dobbs, "Two wings of the same bird." statement.

Dave

hillbilly 01-18-2012 01:59 PM

I signed against it here.

http://sopa.boldprogressives.org/sur...rce=craigslist

hillbilly 01-18-2012 02:03 PM

Here are some yea's and nay's involved. Seeing four in TN supporting it makes me sick. I thought more of TN than that. Who all said yea in your state?

http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/

finnbow 01-18-2012 04:00 PM

It brings to mind Sen. Ted Stevens referring to the Internet as a "series of tubes." We have a bunch of technologically incompetent clowns voting on such issues depending on how much campaign money they can collect from the MPAA.

Bigerik 01-18-2012 07:46 PM

This a scary one. Hard to imagine that it could happen in America.

David Newman 01-18-2012 08:00 PM

This is very bad legislation and luckily there seems to be some momentum with people bracing away from supporting this. It's disheartening that there is a single person who is for this. It was devastating when they passed the Patriot Act, and this is almost as bad.

Bigerik 01-18-2012 08:04 PM

Damn, Dave. Didn't know you visited these parts too. Good to see ya, brother.

doucanoe 01-18-2012 09:16 PM

Our illustrious Senators from MN, Franken (D) and Klobuchar (D), appear to be for the bill.



RC

Bigerik 01-18-2012 09:17 PM

Time for a third party!

doucanoe 01-18-2012 09:26 PM

I think we could all agree (or most of us anyway) that we are in desperate need of something.


RC

Oerets 01-18-2012 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigerik (Post 86211)
Time for a third party!




Just one that will work on the issues would please me!



Barney

BlueStreak 01-18-2012 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigerik (Post 86190)
This a scary one. Hard to imagine that it could happen in America.

Well, when you have two parties bent on usurping democracy in the name of saving us from being duped into voting for the other party................

Dave

BlueStreak 01-18-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doucanoe (Post 86217)
I think we could all agree (or most of us anyway) that we are in desperate need of something.


RC

Unfortunately, some seem determined to try anything, so long as it's "different" and extreme.

Dave

David Newman 01-18-2012 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigerik (Post 86197)
Damn, Dave. Didn't know you visited these parts too. Good to see ya, brother.

Not too often, but I will come in to talk economics once in a while or some other topic of interest.

Caminokid 01-19-2012 04:54 AM

I feel like we are losing all our rights. Is the bill of rights still any good? They are talking social networks are also effected. Places where you download things...let put Audio Karma in this. There is alot of us there that do download manuals for equipment...will this effect us too? It looks as though there is alot against it...but what about the unknowns? They could turn the tables bad really quick.

merrylander 01-19-2012 07:29 AM

When SCOTUS decided that bribery was legal, when noknock trashed the 4th and 6th Amendments, when they wrote the Patriot Act, when a newer version of SCOTUS decided that corporations are people, when both parties in Congress keep twisting the rules so that the rich get richer and the rest of us get squat. Yeah, it is time for third or even a fourth party.

hillbilly 01-20-2012 05:37 PM

Well they gave it up ( at least for a while ). 13 million people took the time to sign a petition ( myself included ) against it.

Didn't a HUGE site with 150 million users get taken down early today... without the crap bills they were trying to pass? That tells me that they didn't need them and were trying to blow smoke up our asses so we'd miss the fine print that would sneak up on us later. ;)

Charles 01-20-2012 05:58 PM

Hate to burst everyone's bubble, but if they don't get us before the election while everybody's watching, they'll get us AFTER the election while everybody ain't.

The fuckers are going to do it, one way or another.

IMHO

Chas

bhunter 01-20-2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hillbilly (Post 86627)
Well they gave it up ( at least for a while ). 13 million people took the time to sign a petition ( myself included ) against it.

Didn't a HUGE site with 150 million users get taken down early today... without the crap bills they were trying to pass? That tells me that they didn't need them and were trying to blow smoke up our asses so we'd miss the fine print that would sneak up on us later. ;)

Yes. Megauploads, a New Zealand operated and Hong Kong headquartered company, was taken down yesterday and several people arrested. In response, Anonymous.com took down the RIAA, Universal, MPAA, and DOJ websites.

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/the-i...eid=fbc79e9841

We will see what happens next. Interestingly, Obama's against, all GOP candidates are against, but the DNC Chair Wasserman-Schultz is for the SIPA SOPA legislation. Lamar Smith a republican out of Texas is the primary driver of the legislation.

The legislation was quite infantile in its methods and written far to broadly. The idiots might try to slip something through, but, for now, there is too much negative publicity.

It is often missed that the underlying technology was meant to survive a nuclear war and still have open communication channels.

bobabode 01-21-2012 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caminokid (Post 86263)
I feel like we are losing all our rights. Is the bill of rights still any good? They are talking social networks are also effected. Places where you download things...let put Audio Karma in this. There is alot of us there that do download manuals for equipment...will this effect us too? It looks as though there is alot against it...but what about the unknowns? They could turn the tables bad really quick.

Hey Caminokid welcome! Bill of Rights was Oliver Cromwell'd a couple weeks ago. Corpse was dug up and executed.


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